As for Sunnyone's vision of a hypothetical conspiracy, I don't believe it takes large numbers of police and prosecutors consciously choosing to frame innocent suspects. I very much doubt that happened. On the contrary, it isn't hard to imagine that LE decided early on that the WM3 were the killers and continue to cling to that belief.
Personally, I think that's how most LE "conspiracies" work: not to frame innocent suspects (though that may be the result), but to "help" the evidence against defendants LE believes to be guilty.
Amen .... Amen to that 100%. I don't think anyone becomes a cop because they want to hurt innocent people, and I think 95% of these situations are a cop deciding someone is guilty and "adding a little evidence" to make sure, in his/her mind, that a guilty person doesn't get away with it. Of course, the problem is when, as here, the person they've targeted isn't in fact guilty.
At least one source (I wish I had a cite, but I don't at the moment) claims the WMPD is wrong that certain information was known "only" to the PD and the perpetrators. On the contrary, numerous sources testified that gossip was rampant and the details of the crimes widely discussed before anyone was arrested or even questioned.
Yeah, and I'm not going to dig it up - I don't even think nons deny it. There were rumors all throughout the community, there were newspaper reports, and there was no knowledge that allegedly came from any of the WM3 that the PD didn't know. Anyone reading Jessie's statements and walking away thinking they're worth anything is just completely inexperienced with all criminal matters or simply doesn't care about truth.
http://www.dpdlaw.com/jmstatements.htm They have to tell him every detail and even in his 1994 post-conviction statement, he' nowhere close to aligning with the evidence - not the evidence as known then, and not the evidence as known now 17 years later.
Hey Fishmonger Dave - I'm relatively new to this case too and am a 2nd year law student.
Cool - if there's one thing this world needs, it's more lawyers :dance:
I know you think Hobbs is the real killer; motive?
I can't now - it's been posted so many times. Huge motive discussion over at the wm3blackboard. Even though his history gives pretty good clues, it's speculation.
I'm more focused on the forensics. Even if one can try to explain Hobbs' hair in Michael Moore's shoelace, there simply is no reasonable way to explain Jacoby's hair at the discovery scene. Anyone who thinks the wind blew it there has wind blowing through their head (a tough feat when someone's head is buried in the sand while they yell "guilty" and refuse to look at the facts).
Not prepared to say that. I've heard all kinds of speculation. Many accused Mark Byers of involvement and I took a lot of heat for saying we couldn't responsibly say that ... telling Mark (who's now a friend) that he was "silly and ignorant, but not a child killer" on these boards. I'm not looking at theories here - if someone has evidence (forensics) that show Jacoby was involved with the crime - before or after it was committed - or knew about it - or helped move the bodies during the night of 5/5 or morning of 5/6, then I'll listen, but as of now I don't accuse him of involvement.
Do you think the boys were sexually assaulted?
There are conflicting views on whether evidence shows the boys were penetrated anally so I'm wondering who could be so hateful to these boys without a sexually sadistic motive?
No - even Peretti (state pathologist) denied it, and the more recent expert evaluations have confirmed it. This was about Hobbs exploding in rage and (1) Either Chris & Michael saw something they shouldn't have seen (Hobbs beating Steve) or (2) Hobbs wanted there to be 3 victims so as to disperse suspicion from a sadistically abusive stepfather (him). Either way, it was an explosion of rage, not a sexual crime, not a cult ritual (in spite of the State's testimony at trial that "8 is a witches' number", not a satanic sacrifice, etc.
Well, gotta go get something billable done to make the overhead .... you'll see one day :nerves:
David Perry Davis, Esq.
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