I looked for a thread on this topic and couldn't find one. Sorry if it's a repeat. Mainly, it's a place to discuss this:
From what I have read, XZ told the 911 operator that Rebecca was attempting to revive Max during the call. I must admit to having no clear idea where XZ was at the time, and whether she could see what was happening or had to be told.. in any case, that's what she told 911.
Rebecca is herself known to have made various claims and denials as to what she actually did for Max as far as those attempts went (if anyone can help me with the timeline for those, I'd be grateful.. Not being lazy, I'm in migraine mode and too much screen-hopping sets me off, sorry ><) but the EMS report is quite clear that Max did NOT receive CPR, and there's also no mention of any 'rescue breaths' or any other attempts prior to their arrival to revive him at all in that report, is there?
Then we have the fact that Max was quite severely oxygen deprived. Four minutes elapsed between the time of dispatch (close to the time of Max having breath enough to whisper the dog's name to Rebecca), to when the ambulance arrived to find Max's heart had stopped and he was very blue.
Would Max have been so severely oxygen deprived, had he actually received any 'rescue breaths' at all? I understand that his airways were compromised due to his injuries, but if he was breathing shortly before the call (as that whisper Rebecca said he made implies) and there were attempts to revive him during the call, and the ambulance arrived scant minutes later -- would he have been less blue (to use layman's plainspeak) than he was?
I'm inclined to believe, due to Rebecca's changing story and lack of clarity on details given the medics (why not 'I tried to revive him for about X minutes' rather than being cagey about it, when it was obviously a vitally important detail..), that Max may not have received 'rescue breaths' from Rebecca after all.
Interesting take on the message, Zinn - it was my immediate 'read' on it, even prior to knowing there was doubt about the help offered to Max by Rebecca. Not just a 'feeling' - but a take on the structure of the exact phrasing itself, when viewed in conjunction with the peculiar staging of Rebecca's body, which says to me 'sarcasm', and therefore an accusatory tone.
I do believe her death was murder, and the crime scene heavily and carefully staged. So the message fits rather neatly with that, and with possible perceptions of doubt on behalf of her killer, as to whether Rebecca was wholly truthful regarding the circumstances of Max's death.
Apologies if this is a bit rambly, my head is really thumping... ><
Ausgirl - Can you help me understand this theory about Rebecca falsely claiming to administer CPR? I'm confused about the line of reasoning in relation to this belief. We know XZ told the 911 operator Rebecca was attempting to resuscitate Max (though she didn't specify "CPR" in the snippet of the 911 call that was released). We also know the EMS report states CPR had not been administered prior to their arrival at the scene. And we've been told JS said Rebecca told him she performed CPR. So what is the belief about the inconsistency of these reports? Is the belief that Rebecca asked XZ to lie to 911, then attempted to lie to EMS but was caught in the lie at the scene? Perhaps due to the position of Max's body upon their arrival? <modsnip>? Or is the belief that Rebecca got mixed up about her cover story and forgot to lie to EMS when they arrived, but remembered again when she told Jonah what had happened? Can you help me understand this line of reasoning?
You've mentioned you believe Rebecca was murdered. If that's the case, I think it could be helpful to understand more about the belief surrounding a false claim of CPR on Max, considering the 911 call reporting Rebecca's death included a claim of CPR on her long dead body, and the message painted on the bedroom door could potentially be interpreted as a reference to what was believed to be a false claim of CPR.
All of the above is just my opinion.
From what I have read, XZ told the 911 operator that Rebecca was attempting to revive Max during the call. I must admit to having no clear idea where XZ was at the time, and whether she could see what was happening or had to be told.. in any case, that's what she told 911.
Rebecca is herself known to have made various claims and denials as to what she actually did for Max as far as those attempts went (if anyone can help me with the timeline for those, I'd be grateful.. Not being lazy, I'm in migraine mode and too much screen-hopping sets me off, sorry ><) but the EMS report is quite clear that Max did NOT receive CPR, and there's also no mention of any 'rescue breaths' or any other attempts prior to their arrival to revive him at all in that report, is there?
Then we have the fact that Max was quite severely oxygen deprived. Four minutes elapsed between the time of dispatch (close to the time of Max having breath enough to whisper the dog's name to Rebecca), to when the ambulance arrived to find Max's heart had stopped and he was very blue.
Would Max have been so severely oxygen deprived, had he actually received any 'rescue breaths' at all? I understand that his airways were compromised due to his injuries, but if he was breathing shortly before the call (as that whisper Rebecca said he made implies) and there were attempts to revive him during the call, and the ambulance arrived scant minutes later -- would he have been less blue (to use layman's plainspeak) than he was?
I'm inclined to believe, due to Rebecca's changing story and lack of clarity on details given the medics (why not 'I tried to revive him for about X minutes' rather than being cagey about it, when it was obviously a vitally important detail..), that Max may not have received 'rescue breaths' from Rebecca after all.
Interesting take on the message, Zinn - it was my immediate 'read' on it, even prior to knowing there was doubt about the help offered to Max by Rebecca. Not just a 'feeling' - but a take on the structure of the exact phrasing itself, when viewed in conjunction with the peculiar staging of Rebecca's body, which says to me 'sarcasm', and therefore an accusatory tone.
I do believe her death was murder, and the crime scene heavily and carefully staged. So the message fits rather neatly with that, and with possible perceptions of doubt on behalf of her killer, as to whether Rebecca was wholly truthful regarding the circumstances of Max's death.
Apologies if this is a bit rambly, my head is really thumping... ><