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There were reports from teen age boys that were neighbors GS was there until the morning of MS's accident. I'll look for the link.
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There were reports from teen age boys that were neighbors GS was there until the morning of MS's accident. I'll look for the link.
In a an early article, a friend of GS is quoted as saying she was in Coronado. But left before paramedics arrived.
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This contradicts the police report which says only XZ and RZ were in the home at the time of the accident. Did GS perhaps leave before MS was injured? It'd be interesting to check flight records.
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Contradictions abound in this case. I have no idea when GS left, but would be willing to bet it was not on a commercial flight. More than likely a private jet. JMO
I would like to know how other family members flew in. I'd also like to know about the dinner AS, JS, and RZ shared that night. So many unanswered questions.
arielilane
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Link already posted by someone earlier in the thread. However, the following is worth posting.
According to the sheriffs presentation they state her motive was because she called her own voice mail at 12:50 a.m. and listened to a message left by Jonah Shacknai telling her that Maxs condition had turned grave and his death was imminent. Please keep in mind that the contents of that voicemail have now been confirmed by KFMB to have been from statements made by Jonah Shacknai to law enforcement. Of course, the voicemail was deleted and no one but Jonah Shacknai can confirm the contents. AND, in that same report, it is revealed that the incoming phone call from Jonah in which he allegedly left the voicemail, doesnt even show up on Rebecca Zahaus cell phone records. In KFMBs report they state family members confirm that the call came in around 12:30 a.m., but they do not clarify what family members they are talking about. The Zahau family cant confirm it, because they dont have any evidence of the incoming phone call, so one is left to assume the family members are those of the Shacknai family.
Now, AT&T, Rebeccas provider, states this is not uncommon. That when a phone call comes in and you dont answer it, it sometimes doesnt get recorded in the log. Okay, BUT, the outgoing phone call from Jonah Shacknais cell phone should be in his call records, correct? No statement has been provided as to whether it was confirmed via his call records. So Jonah claims (so far without evidence to support it) that he called Rebecca sometime around 12:30 a.m. and told her that Maxs condition just turned grave and his death was imminent.
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/09/17/rebecca-zahau-case-the-voice-mail/
In addition, what we all know...
Unfortunately and sadly, Max died at the bottom of the stairs.
According to the sheriffs presentation they state her motive was because she called her own voice mail at 12:50 a.m. and listened to a message left by Jonah Shacknai telling her that Maxs condition had turned grave and his death was imminent. Please keep in mind that the contents of that voicemail have now been confirmed by KFMB to have been from statements made by Jonah Shacknai to law enforcement. Of course, the voicemail was deleted and no one but Jonah Shacknai can confirm the contents. AND, in that same report, it is revealed that the incoming phone call from Jonah in which he allegedly left the voicemail, doesnt even show up on Rebecca Zahaus cell phone records. In KFMBs report they state family members confirm that the call came in around 12:30 a.m., but they do not clarify what family members they are talking about. The Zahau family cant confirm it, because they dont have any evidence of the incoming phone call, so one is left to assume the family members are those of the Shacknai family.
Now, AT&T, Rebeccas provider, states this is not uncommon. That when a phone call comes in and you dont answer it, it sometimes doesnt get recorded in the log. Okay, BUT, the outgoing phone call from Jonah Shacknais cell phone should be in his call records, correct? No statement has been provided as to whether it was confirmed via his call records. So Jonah claims (so far without evidence to support it) that he called Rebecca sometime around 12:30 a.m. and told her that Maxs condition just turned grave and his death was imminent.
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/09/17/rebecca-zahau-case-the-voice-mail/
In addition, what we all know...
Unfortunately and sadly, Max died at the bottom of the stairs.
arielilane
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Is it just me or is LE wanting it to be believed that RZ committed suicide because she was distress over Max's condition? I believe RZ was well aware of Max's condition prior to the 12:30 A.M. call.
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From the article posted today:
"News 8 obtained two pages of AT&T billing logs from the 32-year-old's cell phone, which family members said was a newer-model phone using the Windows Phone mobile operating system."
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/15485069/records-reveal-final-cell-phone-calls-to-rebecca-zahau
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Look at the video at the top of this site. It shows the 12:50 am call as vmail. Isn't that from RZ's cell phone records?
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/15485069/records-reveal-final-cell-phone-calls-to-rebecca-zahau
arielilane
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Let the record show:
RZ was responding (to her sister) at 9:53 P.M., but she wasn't responding at 10:41 P.M. when NR was attempting to text her....
RZ was responding (to her sister) at 9:53 P.M., but she wasn't responding at 10:41 P.M. when NR was attempting to text her....
Do we know if she-or anyone-read the text from NR? If the last confirmed telephonic "sighting" of Rebecca was by her sister at 9:53, then we can't be certain who called her voice mail at 12:50. She could have been tied up- literally-by that time.
OK, for the paranoiacs/intrigue junkies, here's a link for who I presume is Nina Romano (Garner), that lists among her "aliases" as Dina Shacknai.
http://www.peoplefinders.com/search...&age=&utm_source=radaris&utm_campaign=results
I'm guessing that's just a computer generated flub based on the fact that they're twins.
I'm wondering if NR's husband is the guy who used to run LiveNation's concerts department. He was canned last year, but was once an up and comer.
I'd like to know whether NR and AS placed calls with each other, or saw each other during this time. Also whether NR looks like DS; also NR's whereabouts during this entire evening. I hadn't even realized before these phone records emerged that DS had a twin sister. Probably nothing to all of this, but it's like out of a David Lynch movie......
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It is stated in the KFMB report.
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/154850...e-calls-to-rebecca-zahau?clienttype=printable
Zahau's sister, Mary Zahau-Loehner, said detectives told her that Jonah Shacknai left the voicemail on Rebecca's phone around 12:30 a.m. on the morning of her death.
All that proves is that RN (or perhaps someone else) checked RN's voicemail at 12:50 am. It doesn't say anything about any messages going to voicemail.
Apparently, the Clinic Call to RN was to set up follow up appointment for RN sister on Wednesday. Why would RN set up this appt, if RN knew the sister was flying home? Obviously, she was planning on her sister staying through the week. I am sure she was hoping to have her around for support.
I understand that if an AT&T unaswered call goes directly to voice mail - the bill shows a 1 min call.
From scanning records, you then realize that JS was not answering his phone. Instead the calls are listed as 1 minute. Why was he not answering or calling or texting... till the presumed late night call that lead to suicide? ----Rather, AS and DS twin sister called/texted RN. JS was not coming home either, and one can understand he wanted to stay at ICU or close by his sons bedside. But, he should have kept in contact. Since it appears that he did not, I am speculating he was angry with RN.
This late night call from JS is still a mystery, as someone deleted it. Sim card data recovery software may be used to recover deleted messages and texted messages from a cell phone. This is probably one of many other ways to recover a deleted phone call. So, the LE should know more......
Just thinking about this....What did DS twin want to discuss? If the family suspected RN sedated/harmed MS, then I would expect she was boiling mad. And twins do have that special bond.
--- IF DS twin texted RN late at night saying she wanted to stop by,... one would exect RN to call JS or her sister STAT! But, RN did nothing. She did not call/text/answer any calls. Unless, you count the late night call from JS, that was deleted by someone- if it even exists. She was calling/texting earlier in the night. So,..What changed? You have to wonder, if DS sister showed up and knocked on the front door......
Also heard the twin sisters father's obit stated that he liked to go yachting in Coronado and possible had a cattle ranch. AND DS twin sister "told CBS 8 she wanted to come to the mansion".
Thought intersting tid bits.
IMO.
I understand that if an AT&T unaswered call goes directly to voice mail - the bill shows a 1 min call.
From scanning records, you then realize that JS was not answering his phone. Instead the calls are listed as 1 minute. Why was he not answering or calling or texting... till the presumed late night call that lead to suicide? ----Rather, AS and DS twin sister called/texted RN. JS was not coming home either, and one can understand he wanted to stay at ICU or close by his sons bedside. But, he should have kept in contact. Since it appears that he did not, I am speculating he was angry with RN.
This late night call from JS is still a mystery, as someone deleted it. Sim card data recovery software may be used to recover deleted messages and texted messages from a cell phone. This is probably one of many other ways to recover a deleted phone call. So, the LE should know more......
Just thinking about this....What did DS twin want to discuss? If the family suspected RN sedated/harmed MS, then I would expect she was boiling mad. And twins do have that special bond.
--- IF DS twin texted RN late at night saying she wanted to stop by,... one would exect RN to call JS or her sister STAT! But, RN did nothing. She did not call/text/answer any calls. Unless, you count the late night call from JS, that was deleted by someone- if it even exists. She was calling/texting earlier in the night. So,..What changed? You have to wonder, if DS sister showed up and knocked on the front door......
Also heard the twin sisters father's obit stated that he liked to go yachting in Coronado and possible had a cattle ranch. AND DS twin sister "told CBS 8 she wanted to come to the mansion".
Thought intersting tid bits.
IMO.
Interesting piece of serendipity that NR had wanted to come over and talk - but didn't - late in the evening on the night of Rebecca's death.
Could the lady's clothing in the guest house be hers? Just wondering. I also wonder if LE did bother to verify her whereabouts on the evening in question, besides hearsay and her own statements.
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Referring to x as daughter: I was injured once when my parents were out of town. Since my parents had not left written authorization for the family I was staying with to make decisions regarding my care, the hospital couldnt do anything (non emergency). Maybe this is why Rz referred to x as her daughter- to be able to authorize care and saying it again while talking to the kennel gentleman so she would remember it at the later appointment- that didn't happen.
After seeing what has been released from Rebecca's cell phone records, it amazes me, yet again, that this case was closed and said to be ironclad. I can think of several questions regarding her cell phone usage alone.
Last known phone call/texting, known to have been done by Rebecca was to her sister, It is not known id Rebecca ever saw NR text message, whether NR ever 'dropped by' or whether it was her clothing/make up in the guest house.
Add to this, the probably sent, but never answered boice mail from JS, that Rebecca didn't even answer, but that is all hearsay, as it is deleted from Rebecca's phone.
They didn't say anything about finger prints or dna on the cell phone, did they?
But when it is said and done, LE cleared one individual, according to them. That was AS. This was after what? A few minutes at the kitchen table drinking coffee? Downtown under a spotlight? What questions were asked during the lie detector test and who administered it. Why did they even DO a lie detector test?
Open and shut, ironclad case, not. Someone certainly appears to be controlling aspects of this case. Question is, who and why?
Last known phone call/texting, known to have been done by Rebecca was to her sister, It is not known id Rebecca ever saw NR text message, whether NR ever 'dropped by' or whether it was her clothing/make up in the guest house.
Add to this, the probably sent, but never answered boice mail from JS, that Rebecca didn't even answer, but that is all hearsay, as it is deleted from Rebecca's phone.
They didn't say anything about finger prints or dna on the cell phone, did they?
But when it is said and done, LE cleared one individual, according to them. That was AS. This was after what? A few minutes at the kitchen table drinking coffee? Downtown under a spotlight? What questions were asked during the lie detector test and who administered it. Why did they even DO a lie detector test?
Open and shut, ironclad case, not. Someone certainly appears to be controlling aspects of this case. Question is, who and why?
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If I was X's mom I would want her home ASAP. IMO. To be safe, RZ prob made the follow up appointment just in case she couldn't get a flight or she was unable to get her to the airport.
And, in the hospital icu we have been to, cell phones are a nono. And sometimes once you turn it off you are to preoccupied to remember that it is off. Jmo
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