Rebecca's Death

[jjenny]

Lots of things in this case could have been red flags for LE. Bremner claims Rebecca was not interested in *advertiser censored*.

"Never in a million years would she have those fantasies; and never in a million years would she even look at *advertiser censored*," said Bremner told News 8. "There was somebody interested in doing her harm, with these kinds of searches."
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/160836... censored*-found-on-coronado-mansion-computer

 

[jjenny]

Well, for one, Bremner can have this computer analyzed to see if there was an actually history of someone looking at bondage *advertiser censored*, or if bondage *advertiser censored* was only looked at prior to Rebecca's so-called suicide.

 

[katydid23]

Well, for one, Bremner can have this computer analyzed to see if there was an actually history of someone looking at bondage *advertiser censored*, or if bondage *advertiser censored* was only looked at prior to Rebecca's so-called suicide.

Of course she will. And i imagine LE has already done so. If that was the ONLY time that bondage was ever looked at on her computer, the case would not have been labeled a suicide, imo.

 

[scorekeeper]

So now we are questioning how or even if she was grieving for her dying son? What is the point of that question? Are you implying she did not care her son was on his deathbed?

Because I don't think any of us can judge or even predict what a mother of a dying child should be doing with their time. You cannot compare your situation with your mother in ICU with a mother and her 6 yr old dying of a tragic out of the blue brutal situation.
She is a victim here. And implying she was somehow not grieving during that time, or questioning her grieving process seems vicious, imo.

Maybe she went home and hid under the covers and took some xanaxes and a shot of whiskey. Would that matter if she did? Are you going to judge or criticize any mother whose child lay dying because you do not know where they are?

BBM

Perhaps she did. Once again, thinking only of herself. Personally, I wouldn't want her counselling me on "blended families".

I'm not comfortable about the way she, JS or AS have presented themselves through this whole trajedy.

I think everyone on this forum feels strongly one way or the other. And it seems we disagree.

I'm glad my dying mother knew I was there but that's not relevent to this case.

But the victims here are really Max and Rebecca; both leaving this world too early.

And I really do enjoy reading your post:seeya:

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

How would Bremner know whether or not RZ had an interest in *advertiser censored*?

People here were quick to believe Dr. Klein when he said that JS was into sex parties and fetishes etc. So why would we think that the woman he chose as his partner would not be into that as well?

It is possible that they were into some sort of bondage play, but that should have been no one's business but their own. IMO, I think Rebecca's death, which I believe was suicide, was a dig at Jonah over that.

Only speculating.

 

[katydid23]

Lots of things in this case could have been red flags for LE. Bremner claims Rebecca was not interested in *advertiser censored*.

"Never in a million years would she have those fantasies; and never in a million years would she even look at *advertiser censored*," said Bremner told News 8. "There was somebody interested in doing her harm, with these kinds of searches."
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/160836... censored*-found-on-coronado-mansion-computer

from your link:

News 8 asked Sheriff Bill Gore whether *advertiser censored* was found on Zahau's computer at a news conference Wednesday, but he refused to comment on the content recovered.

"That information is now in the possession of Anne Bremner if she'd like to discuss that with you," said Gore. "We're not really putting out all the specifics of the information found on the computer."

Those specifics are contained in the forensic computer report that Sheriff Gore also said he is not inclined to release.

"We released what we thought was pertinent so the public could understand how we arrived at our conclusions. To release the whole file would not be in keeping with our own policy," said Gore.



YIKES. It sounds to me like the sheriff was hinting that there was previous bondage *advertiser censored* found on her computer.

This article was in November of 2011. I think that AB would have yelled it to the roof tops if it was the ONLY bondage *advertiser censored* found on the computer.

 

[Wendy101]

Ok, so let's say Rebecca was into bondage... How does this change? When practicing bondage, isn't it the partner that ties you up? Also, if JS is into bondage, does this mean Dina was into bondage too? So, who tied Rebecca up?

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

Ok, so let's say Rebecca was into bondage... How does this change? When practicing bondage, isn't it the partner that ties you up? Also, if JS is into bondage, does this mean Dina was into bondage too? So, who tied Rebecca up?

Just speculating, but maybe Rebecca had learned to tie herself up so she could surprise Jonah with his favorite little game.

 

[katydid23]

Ok, so let's say Rebecca was into bondage... How does this change? When practicing bondage, isn't it the partner that ties you up? Also, if JS is into bondage, does this mean Dina was into bondage too? So, who tied Rebecca up?

It changes everything, imo. It shows that she was entirely capable of tying those knots and of tying her own hands and feet, imo. And it explains her decision to hang herself, naked, especially if she was angry at JS for 'abandoning' her and blaming her.

And no, Dina was not into it, which is why he moved on to a partner who was sharing it with him.

 

[screecher]

A little off topic but not too far:

Around the time this happened I bought a leather wrap bracelet online. To put it on, I have to wrap it around one wrist and secure it through the fastener with the other hand.

The first time I tried it, I bet it took 20 minutes or so, I just could not do it. Maybe if I had been putting it on with my dominant hand, but I wear my watch on the non-dominant side.

Mr. Izzy watched me and when I finally got it, he said, now do that with your hands behind your back.

I'm not sure of the source that bondage *advertiser censored* was found on RZ's computer, but I sure haven't seen any reports that searches of how to tie oneself in knots were found on her computer.

Her knowing how to tie those knots and managing to jump off the balcony with both hands and feet bound has always seemed completely implausible to me.

:moo:

Don't forget, she supposedly also gagged herself !!!

 

[jjenny]

Just speculating, but maybe Rebecca had learned to tie herself up so she could surprise Jonah with his favorite little game.

How does an 8 foot long drop style hanging fits into "his favorite little game?"

 

[jjenny]

Don't forget, she supposedly also gagged herself !!!

And put a noose over her hair. What woman would put a rope over her hair? An instinct would be to immediately pull the hair out.

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

Don't forget, she supposedly also gagged herself !!!

The "gag" was just in her mouth. She could've have spit it out anytime - there was nothing to keep her from doing so. I think she put it in her mouth to avoid waking Adam with any noise.

 

[bourne]

Well, for one, Bremner can have this computer analyzed to see if there was an actually history of someone looking at bondage *advertiser censored*, or if bondage *advertiser censored* was only looked at prior to Rebecca's so-called suicide.

Anne Bremner stated emphatically on Dr. Phil that Rebecca would never watch bondage *advertiser censored*. The implication would be that Rebecca's computers were devoid of bondage *advertiser censored* prior to the sudden first appearance of its viewing the night she was killed.

 

[katydid23]

BBM

Perhaps she did. Once again, thinking only of herself. Personally, I wouldn't want her counselling me on "blended families".

I'm not comfortable about the way she, JS or AS have presented themselves through this whole trajedy.

I think everyone on this forum feels strongly one way or the other. And it seems we disagree.

I'm glad my dying mother knew I was there but that's not relevent to this case.

But the victims here are really Max and Rebecca; both leaving this world too early.

And I really do enjoy reading your post:seeya:

If she went home and hid under the covers, too distraught to deal with her son's imminent death, that does not mean she thinking only of herself. It just means she was falling apart and incapable of dealing with the situation. Weak maybe, but not selfish, imo.

Even so, I think she would make a great counselor. She would have empathy with those who felt too weak to cope, imo. And i don't think she has shown herself in any way she should be ashamed about. There but for the grace of God, go I, and all that. :rose: :wave:

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

Anne Bremner stated emphatically on Dr. Phil that Rebecca would never watch bondage *advertiser censored*. The implication would be that Rebecca's computers were devoid of bondage *advertiser censored* prior to the sudden first appearance of its viewing the night she was killed.

How on earth would Anne Bremner know about Rebecca's sexual preferences?

 

[katydid23]

Anne Bremner stated emphatically on Dr. Phil that Rebecca would never watch bondage *advertiser censored*. The implication would be that Rebecca's computers were devoid of bondage *advertiser censored* prior to the sudden first appearance of its viewing the night she was killed.

well then why didn't she say that.

Just because an attorney says something emphatically, it does not mean it is so. JMO

 

[scorekeeper]

It changes everything, imo. It shows that she was entirely capable of tying those knots and of tying her own hands and feet, imo. And it explains her decision to hang herself, naked, especially if she was angry at JS for 'abandoning' her and blaming her.

And no, Dina was not into it, which is why he moved on to a partner who was sharing it with him.

BBM

And you know this how?:what:

 

[screecher]

So now we are questioning how or even if she was grieving for her dying son? What is the point of that question? Are you implying she did not care her son was on his deathbed?

Because I don't think any of us can judge or even predict what a mother of a dying child should be doing with their time. You cannot compare your situation with your mother in ICU with a mother and her 6 yr old dying of a tragic out of the blue brutal situation.

She is a victim here. And implying she was somehow not grieving during that time, or questioning her grieving process seems vicious, imo.

Maybe she went home and hid under the covers and took some xanaxes and a shot of whiskey. Would that matter if she did? Are you going to judge or criticize any mother whose child lay dying because you do not know where they are?

BBM

Nah. IMO, I think the poster was questioning what Ms. D Romano was doing in those 12 hours when not being with her beloved little boy. Where was she? Who was she with? What was she doing? All legitimate questions.

No need to be hostile.

 

[katydid23]

Don't forget, she supposedly also gagged herself !!!

Have you ever seen some of the little toys used in bondage play? Gagging devices are the norm.