Rebecca's Death

[twocuriouscats]

I think that Rebecca called to place the dog in the kennel just hours after Max's accident because she didn't want it tested for injuries or have DNA taken.

Or, IMHO, Rebecca knew that "**** runs downhill..." and if she was treated badly by that family, imagine what they would do to Ocean if they thought the dog was involved...I think she called the boarder to protect Ocean, get him out of the way. What a sweetheart to think of other creatures smaller than herself.
MOO

 

[Betty P]

It would have kept Jonah from examining the dog and then asking Rebecca more questions. The more he asked, he more likely he would have talked to police and asked them to investigate further, IMO.

If he wanted to examine the dog, all he needed to do was go to the kennel. It was not far from the house.

But for some reason, Jonah arranged to have the dog picked up at the kennel a few days later. Apparently, he gave the dog away to someone else.

 

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Huh? They are twins correct? Don't they look alike (at least same stature and build I'm guessing)? Why would a person(nina) "do everything she can to make sure people did not think it was her sister DS outside the house that night...? Huh? I'm sure I'm missing something, please forgive. Can anyone explain that to me so that I get it? haha Tx!


I remember reading nina's account - to the extent that I remember her saying that she did go to the house after she texted and got no reply. I think she said she "walked around" or something like that. whatever that means...did she ever admit to having contact with Rebecca later that night?

Thanks for updating me!

I believe Nina might have said they could have mistaken her for Dina because they are twins and could have similar bone structure, but the bad news is that they do not really look alike nor even have the same color hair. The eye witness supposedly said it was not Nina and identified it as Dina from a photo?

 

[screecher]

I've wondered about that too. Wives and partners of men with much less than RS have full time housekeepers, nannies, etc. These women spend their days at the Club or golfing or on private beaches. It does seem like RZ was treated like the help. All this must have been very obvious to her. And humiliating.

How is taking care of one's home and the child/children of one's partner humiliating?

 

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I am also not sure what that supposed life in the lap of luxury was all that luxurious. She had to deal with two ex-wives (on in particular living in close proximity), and teenage children who, according to her sister, weren't all that respectful. She was also acting as a babysitter, and a chauffeur. And surprisingly I haven't heard anything about any housekeepers or cleaning personnel-did the family have any? I just don't know why she'd be so devastated to lose "all that."

I figured they must have had maids and gardeners, just not live ins.

Anyone remember, wasn't there also some couple staying in the guesthouse at the time?

 

[twocuriouscats]

Maybe because she was so devastated by the sudden end to her imminent engagement. She was so very close to owning half of that mansion, and half of the man's fortune. And then, suddenly, within days of their supposed upcoming engagement--it's all over. And a tragic and shameful ending at that. Maybe she wanted to have some revenge on JS and his family. If so, she did a great job.

Wow. I have to jump in here and offer my opinion - you call it "imminent engagement." You say she was so close to owning half that mansion...supposed upcoming engagement...consider your own words - that's a hell of a leap to make that she was so close to owning that mansion. From an "imminent" or "supposed" engagement...helluva leap. Not buying it. MOO

 

[jjenny]

I figured they must have had maids and gardeners, just not live ins.

Anyone remember, wasn't there also some couple staying in the guesthouse at the time?

I think it were teenagers staying at the guest house. Considering underwear found at the house supposedly belonged to one of the teenagers.

 

[ziggy]

California AND Arizona are community property states - his property prior to marriage is his separate property and doesn't change just because they get married...same goes with his separate income prior to marriage. It's too speculative to state what Rebecca thought she might "get" by marrying JS.

 

[Tink56]

I think that Rebecca called to place the dog in the kennel just hours after Max's accident because she didn't want it tested for injuries or have DNA taken.

Hmmm..If I had police, the fire department, etc., going in and out of the house...a child in the hospital...uncertain schedule, etc., my inclination would be to put the dog in a more secure environment. (IMO, 14-month old dogs still have a lot of puppy energy in them....)

I've read two different accounts...one that JS called the kennel...the other that RZ did...don't know that it matters.

I am curious about what happened to the dog. In the timeline above, it is stated that JS had "someone pick up the dog" on the day of MS's death. Was it given away? Or????

 

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I think it were teenagers staying at the guest house. Considering underwear found at the house supposedly belonged to one of the teenagers.

Sorry I was confusing, I didn't mean the 'guesthouse'. There was supposedly a caretakers cottage/apartment above the garage that might have been rented out.


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Originally Posted by Quester
Jumping off your post:

I don't remember the answer to the following:

Do we know where AS was staying? In the guest house behind the main house or in an apartment above the garage?

If he was staying in the guest house he probably couldn't have missed her.

The first reports were that he was in the guest house and that the caretakers cottage/apartment was rented out. That may have been the older couple who came back to collect personal items that was shown on video, maybe....

 

[inthedark14]

How is taking care of one's home and the child/children of one's partner humiliating?

It isn't and IMO RZ wasn't the kind of woman who sat around at the Club. I believe I read somewhere that she was training for a triathlon. Learning to swim so she could compete. Probably one of the reasons JS was attracted to her in the first place. Maybe she took pride in taking care of their home. Nothing wrong with that either. MOO

 

[jjenny]

It isn't and IMO RZ wasn't the kind of woman who sat around at the Club. I believe I read somewhere that she was training for a triathlon. Learning to swim so she could compete. Probably one of the reasons JS was attracted to her in the first place. Maybe she took pride in taking care of their home. Nothing wrong with that either. MOO

It's a huge house. How long would it take to clean something like that?

 

[screecher]

I think it were teenagers staying at the guest house. Considering underwear found at the house supposedly belonged to one of the teenagers.

Right you are.

The man part of the 'couple' is the son of Shacknai's (at one time) housekeeper in Arizona. He supposedly is a chef. It's my understanding he and his wife lived in the apt over the garage.

IIRC, they booked out of there the same time Maxie's accident happened.

 

[jjenny]

With all that talk about who was present in the house-was there anyone else on the property? It doesn't sound like that to me. If anybody was living on top of the garage we should have heard about them being interviewed.

 

[inthedark14]

It's a huge house. How long would it take to clean something like that?

Of course its MOO but its likely there was at least some housekeeping help, live in or not. I don't recall anything in MSM about any help. But since only RZ and AS were there when RZ died and only RZ and XZ when poor MS was injured I'd have to guess there were no live in helpers.

 

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With all that talk about who was present in the house-was there anyone else on the property? It doesn't sound like that to me. If anybody was living on top of the garage we should have heard about them being interviewed.

I'm pretty sure they were staying in that apt when Max had his fall. I don't know if they were interviewed because they left fairly quickly - can't remember anyone saying they were or weren't?

 

[katydid23]

I disagree. There is no way to know what RZ was close to owning. In my opinion JS could have arranged a prenup and the two had discussed it.

Do you have a link to when the engagement was alleged to take place? TIA

Why would they have discussed a pre-nup if he had not yet proposed marriage?

It has been linked here that she was given a diamond ring, and also the article where JS's friend said that JS was 'about to propose' was already linked upstream.

But California is a half and half divorce state. So if she married him, even with a pre-nup, she would still be better off than she was.

 

[katydid23]

If she shot herself, took pills... so many easier ways to kill yourself and get revenge.... if you think your life as you know it is over... and why not write a letter..and tell all the people who hurt you what you really think about them?

It is the evidence of her death when looked at closely that really convinces me it was murder.

People do not always take the easy way out. There are quite a few gunshots and hangings. Not everyone takes sleeping pills to end it all/

As for revenge---looks like it worked pretty well. Much of the public believes that the Shaknais killed RZ. Pretty good revenge tactic, imo.

As for the letter, she did leave one. Written in huge block letters, for all the world to see.

 

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Well, I'm really confused where anything is at anymore, but since this concerns Rebecca's death and the posts I was going to reply to claimed there was no evidence of anyone else in that room, and/or claimed there is no evidence of murder, and or claimed that the Zahau's attorney were not doing any investigating just spreading around lies and innuendo (or whatever), I will post here.

Meantime, a forensic crime scene expert hired by the Zahau family claimed Tuesday that he has discovered a new set of unidentified footprints on the balcony in evidence photos posted online.


Dr. Maurice Godwin said the photos show Zahau's heel and toe prints, a shoe print from a Coronado police officer who stepped on the balcony while clearing the crime scene, and two additional shoe prints from a third, unknown person.


"These are narrow shoe markings and it's not the alleged boot of the officer," Dr. Godwin said. "You can see where the officer's prints went right over the (unidentified) markings."


In a Skype interview from his home in Fayetteville, NC, Dr. Godwin said the new footprint evidence leads him to believe Zahau was murdered.


"I think this is clearly a murder, yes," said Dr. Godwin. "This places someone in that room on that balcony other than the victim and the (Coronado police) officer."

http://www.sandiegojack.com/story/1...rch-warrants-to-be-unsealed?clienttype=mobile

 

[twocuriouscats]

Close to what I'm thinking...If Max is on his skateboard at full tilt approaching that landing and Ocean popped up in the way (probably from the landing to the left of Max) I can conceive of him accidentally going over that railing. JMHO.

Thinking more about this - if Ocean jumped into his path Max's first reaction would probably have been to reach towards Ocean, no? That's what I do when my dogs pop up (playing with me ya know) and this often takes place at a fast pace, much excitement and energy flowing, etc. J MOO