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Alethea Dice said:
How many homeless dogs are there in Mexico? Lots.

http://dogcare.dailypuppy.com/street-dogs-mexico-1543.html

What happens to them?

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/4/city-of-dogs.html

Although roundworms can be passed on to humans, it's rare. Wash your hands and don't play where they poop. You can also get roundworms from uncooked and uncleaned vegetables, mosquitos, not cooking or freezing meat properly.

http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/condition/roundworms

http://pets.webmd.com/dogs/worms-in-dogs

Although sarcoptic mange can be passed to humans, humans cannot get demodectic mange from dogs.

http://pets.webmd.com/dogs/mange-dogs-canine-scabies?page=2

And even though fleas can bite and infest your house, they are not contagious to humans.

http://www.vetinfo.com/cat-dog-flea-faq.html#b
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See, the ridiculous thing is to see wild (feral) dogs as "homeless", as obviously every dog doesn't need a man in its life. Dogs are able to live successfully on their own. It is a very self-centered view to look at feral dogs and think, without a man, they are nothing. Without a man, they need rescue. All dogs must be owned by men. The destiny of a dog is to be owned by a man.

Does it make DM something great that he saw a wild animal, and decided to, ahem, "subjugate" its animal life? Born free, now locked up and on a leash? DM is this wild thing's master now. Is he compassionate or simply controlling?

"He saw a future for mankind where we do not pollute our environment or subjugate animal lives to our industry." http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thestar/obituary.aspx?pid=161695472#sthash.lrrjafDv.dpuf

(Like the pet industry.)

Born free, as free as the wind blows...

Just because someone desires to control nature does not mean they understand nature or the implications of their acts, that they are any benefit to nature, or that they are in any way compassionate.

Many people in the animal protection "industry" are emotionally driven fools that cause mass destruction, IMO e.g., http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/st-marys-mink-release-breeders-offer-75-000-reward-for-info-1.2406925

I guess the great thing about being in a car with a wormy dog for 4,000 km is that there are plenty of opportunities to wash your hands (NOT!)

Maybe the guards can rub a little ivermectin between DM's shoulder blades, and he'll spit out worms longer than he is.
 
Alethea Dice said:
How many homeless dogs are there in Mexico? Lots.

http://dogcare.dailypuppy.com/street-dogs-mexico-1543.html

What happens to them?

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/4/city-of-dogs.html

Although roundworms can be passed on to humans, it's rare. Wash your hands and don't play where they poop. You can also get roundworms from uncooked and uncleaned vegetables, mosquitos, not cooking or freezing meat properly.

http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/condition/roundworms

http://pets.webmd.com/dogs/worms-in-dogs

Although sarcoptic mange can be passed to humans, humans cannot get demodectic mange from dogs.

http://pets.webmd.com/dogs/mange-dogs-canine-scabies?page=2

And even though fleas can bite and infest your house, they are not contagious to humans.

http://www.vetinfo.com/cat-dog-flea-faq.html#b
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Still trying to justify DM breaking the law in smuggling a pup across the border? Laws are laws regardless and therefore moots all your other points and links IMHO. There are homeless dogs and cats (and even people) in every country including Canada. DM could have adopted one right here in TO. As we are seeing, DM felt he had some sort of entitlement and had no regard for laws. Buying illegal gun(s), bringing a dog across two borders illegally, allegedly murdering three people, perhaps flying without appropriate licenses, stealing other peoples' vehicles, having contact with at least one person on his no contact list, allegedly tampering with a tenant's vehicle, driving erratic through neighbourhoods, assuming some violation for being pulled over by LE allowing LE to establish his contact card, etc., ect., ect. Those are just some of the issues we have heard about in the MSM, wonder what else there is in which we haven't we heard yet? MOO.
 
Arnie M said:
Yes , and then DM gets a different lawyer , weird or what !!!
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Well no, he's had RP as his lawyer since the beginning for the TB, WM and LB cases. DM hasn't switched lawyers, he's just dropped one.

DP only worked on the TB case, not the other two.

"Ravin's been on the case from Day 1," was all Paradkar, who lives in Mississauga, would say in an uncharacteristically short interview about the switch.
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http://www.therecord.com/news-story/5688882-millard-to-be-represented-by-new-lawyer/
 
swedie said:
Still trying to justify DM breaking the law in smuggling a pup across the border? Laws are laws regardless and therefore moots all your other points and links IMHO. There are homeless dogs and cats (and even people) in every country including Canada. DM could have adopted one right here in TO. As we are seeing, DM felt he had some sort of entitlement and had no regard for laws. Buying illegal gun(s), bringing a dog across two borders illegally, allegedly murdering three people, perhaps flying without appropriate licenses, stealing other peoples' vehicles, having contact with at least one person on his no contact list, allegedly tampering with a tenant's vehicle, driving erratic through neighbourhoods, assuming some violation for being pulled over by LE allowing LE to establish his contact card, etc., ect., ect. Those are just some of the issues we have heard about in the MSM, wonder what else there is in which we haven't we heard yet? MOO.
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FWIW it was Smich who was charged with breaching the no-contact list, not Millard.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/5262706-co-accused-in-bosma-murder-case-faces-new-charge/
 
SnooperDuper said:
Well no, he's had RP as his lawyer since the beginning for the TB, WM and LB cases. DM hasn't switched lawyers, he's just dropped one.

DP only worked on the TB case, not the other two.

http://www.therecord.com/news-story/5688882-millard-to-be-represented-by-new-lawyer/
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So in other words , DM (used) (had) 2 lawyers from the beginning , but neither one was "the lawyer of record" until recently when Ravin Pillay was announced ??? ... do they work for the same law firm or does that matter ??

The reason I ask is because I recall early in the case Paradkar had complained another lawyer was trying to entice DM to switch to his law firm ..... which was considered unethical in the legal profession ..... something like that.
 
Arnie M said:
So in other words , DM (used) (had) 2 lawyers from the beginning , but neither one was "the lawyer of record" until recently when Ravin Pillay was announced ??? ... do they work for the same law firm or does that matter ??

The reason I ask is because I recall early in the case Paradkar had complained another lawyer was trying to entice DM to switch to his law firm ..... which was considered unethical in the legal profession ..... something like that.
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Yes, I guess they were working as a team. DP described working in a team in the Star article on him. They are separate law firms.

Paradkar’s calculated strategy in the Millard case includes building a “war room” to mobilize for the trial, including another lawyer, a collection of expert investigators and witnesses and a handful of law students.
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http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...deepak_paradkar_i_treat_trials_like_wars.html

Deepak Paradkar, the lawyer of record for Dellen Millard, one of two men accused of killing Tim Bosma, says he is making a formal complaint to the Law Society of Upper Canada after criminal defence lawyer Stephanie DiGiuseppe allegedly tried to "scoop" his high-profile client.

DiGiuseppe is junior counsel at Toronto's Derstine Penman Criminal Lawyers.
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http://www.thespec.com/news-story/3240784-millard-hall-lawyers-locked-in-ethics-dispute/

^ That's the other thing you were thinking of.
 
SnooperDuper said:
Well no, he's had RP as his lawyer since the beginning for the TB, WM and LB cases. DM hasn't switched lawyers, he's just dropped one.

DP only worked on the TB case, not the other two.



http://www.therecord.com/news-story/5688882-millard-to-be-represented-by-new-lawyer/
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Interestingly enough RP's name has not been associated with DM case in over two years but now all of a sudden (June 2015) we're hearing this...and from DP himself. Has anyone found otherwise? Do we trust what DP has to say? I don't think he's been too honest on many things to do with this case from the get go kwim? I for one am not putting to much faith into what DP says. Wouldn't one think, on such a high profile case, any lawyer associated would want some press release? ;) DP had his fair share with speaking to the media and handing out his business cards on the courthouse steps. MOO.
 
Arnie M said:
So in other words , DM (used) (had) 2 lawyers from the beginning , but neither one was "the lawyer of record" until recently when Ravin Pillay was announced ??? ... do they work for the same law firm or does that matter ??

The reason I ask is because I recall early in the case Paradkar had complained another lawyer was trying to entice DM to switch to his law firm ..... which was considered unethical in the legal profession ..... something like that.
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BBM - Arnie that was Rafferty's lawyer, DD's law firm. But for all we know, DM may have made a call to DD's firm or perhaps someone interested in DM's defense might have called on DM's behalf, sending a rep from DD's office to speak with DM. MOO.

While investigators continue their search, a legal spat has erupted between Millard’s lawyer and another high-profile law firm.
Deepak Paradkar, who is defending Millard, said a Derstine Penman associate visited his client at the Hamilton-Wentworth Detention Centre without his consent, contravening the Law Society of Upper Canada’s rules of professional conduct.
“He did not solicit their services nor did he solicit a second opinion,” Paradkar said. “The family has full confidence in my ability to represent him.”
Dirk Derstine, a partner at the firm, said they did visit Millard in jail and tried to contact Paradkar afterward.
“Our contact with Mr. Millard was above board,” Derstine said. “It was not unsolicited.”

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...wed_police_interest_in_her_disappearance.html
 
swedie said:
But for all we know, DM may have made a call to DD's firm or perhaps someone interested in DM's defense might have called on DM's behalf, sending a rep from DD's office to speak with DM.
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DP said that Derstine's firm was possibly acting on a referral from Jeremy Hall.

Paradkar says DiGiuseppe was acting on a referral from her own first-degree murder client, likely Hall, who has also been at the Hamilton-Wentworth Detention Centre.
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FWIW Hall is currently serving time for the first degree murder of Billy Mason, a young father from Hamilton who was kidnapped, shot, and incinerated by Hall and an accomplice. He was also in court again recently facing second degree murder charges, in which he was alleged to have forced a fellow inmate to commit suicide.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2098640-billy-mason-s-murder-may-be-tied-to-rip-off/

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4513569-jeremy-hall-remorseless/

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/5657389-mistrial-declared-in-murder-trial-of-jeremy-hall/


Although off-topic, it's also worth mentioning that Billy Mason's mother Donna is also part of Tim's Tribute / The Healing Tree, where she serves as a healing facilitator. She is also responsible for launching a petition to have a National DNA Data Bank in Canada, which was recently approved and will be started sometime in 2016.

https://timstribute.ca/healing-tree-facilitators

http://www.therecord.com/news-story/4364615-dna-databank-brings-hope-to-families-of-missing/
 
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It may be my imagination gone wild but I suspect there are (were) even more "Lawyer-Snags" going on behind the scenes that we have not been told about.

And I expect it surfaced in court the day the judge ordered everybody (public + reporters) to leave the room , and then later told the lawyers to go sort it out amongst themselves.

I am picturing (guessing) a scenario where DM called Paradkar when he was arrested , and a couple of days later maybe DM's girlfriend (CN) also approached Paradkar for advice

~~~~( Remember CN was under police radar from the start and she also hired her own lawyer (Paul Mergler) long before she was charged and arrested for accessory http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4...or-his-return-millard-was-allegedly-escaping/ )~~~~

So here is my point , if a lawyer has inside information (client privileged confidentiality) from one defendant (DM for example) .... and then also knows CN's side of the story (her eventual defense) ..... I do not think that lawyer could represent either person in court

If CN pleads not guilty , one way she could win would be to point all the fingers at DM (testify against him) .... but if DM's lawyer knew her actual involvement from earlier conversations it would be a conflict I think.

It may be legal-hair-splitting technical reasons that causes Paradkar to step aside , and nothing to do with DM's choices at this time ...... as recent as Feb 2015 he stated .... "I am his expected counsel," was all Paradkar would say on the issue. http://www.thespec.com/opinion-stor...ma-family-press-barred-from-pretrial-motions/
 
Arnie M said:
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It may be my imagination gone wild but I suspect there are (were) even more "Lawyer-Snags" going on behind the scenes that we have not been told about.

And I expect it surfaced in court the day the judge ordered everybody (public + reporters) to leave the room , and then later told the lawyers to go sort it out amongst themselves.

I am picturing (guessing) a scenario where DM called Paradkar when he was arrested , and a couple of days later maybe DM's girlfriend (CN) also approached Paradkar for advice

~~~~( Remember CN was under police radar from the start and she also hired her own lawyer (Paul Mergler) long before she was charged and arrested for accessory http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4...or-his-return-millard-was-allegedly-escaping/ )~~~~

So here is my point , if a lawyer has inside information (client privileged confidentiality) from one defendant (DM for example) .... and then also knows CN's side of the story (her eventual defense) ..... I do not think that lawyer could represent either person in court

If CN pleads not guilty , one way she could win would be to point all the fingers at DM (testify against him) .... but if DM's lawyer knew her actual involvement from earlier conversations it would be a conflict I think.

It may be legal-hair-splitting technical reasons that causes Paradkar to step aside , and nothing to do with DM's choices at this time ...... as recent as Feb 2015 he stated .... "I am his expected counsel," was all Paradkar would say on the issue. http://www.thespec.com/opinion-stor...ma-family-press-barred-from-pretrial-motions/
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I don't know if it would cause a conflict but DP was MWJ's lawyer for his cocaine charges (but not for the gun charges related to DM)

$50,000 worth of cocaine and $13,000 in in cash had been found in an apartment allegedly occupied by Ward-Jackson and his co-accused, who was his ex-GF.
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http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/201...d-jackson-and-his-lawyer-deepak-paradkar.html

Ward-Jackson’s lawyer for these charges is Deepak Paradkar, who is also Dellen Millard’s lawyer
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cansleuther said:
DP said that Derstine's firm was possibly acting on a referral from Jeremy Hall.




FWIW Hall is currently serving time for the first degree murder of Billy Mason, a young father from Hamilton who was kidnapped, shot, and incinerated by Hall and an accomplice. He was also in court again recently facing second degree murder charges, in which he was alleged to have forced a fellow inmate to commit suicide.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2098640-billy-mason-s-murder-may-be-tied-to-rip-off/

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/4513569-jeremy-hall-remorseless/

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/5657389-mistrial-declared-in-murder-trial-of-jeremy-hall/


Although off-topic, it's also worth mentioning that Billy Mason's mother Donna is also part of Tim's Tribute / The Healing Tree, where she serves as a healing facilitator. She is also responsible for launching a petition to have a National DNA Data Bank in Canada, which was recently approved and will be started sometime in 2016.

https://timstribute.ca/healing-tree-facilitators

http://www.therecord.com/news-story/4364615-dna-databank-brings-hope-to-families-of-missing/
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It'a a terrible coincidence that BM's body has also incinerated and no remains were ever found.

JH was still successfully convicted.
 
cansleuther said:
Which makes it even more strange that he sent his lawyer(s) to talk to Millard.
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If JH made the recommendation from the Barton St. jail then he had not yet been convicted and his lawyer was still no doubt whispering sweet nothings like "we're going to get you off" in his ear.

It just goes to show how charmed JH was by his lawyer...not how talented his lawyer was.

Of course no amount of legal talent is going to help when the evidence makes it apparent that you are guilty.
 
cansleuther said:
JH was convicted on March 5, 2013 - three months before DM was arrested and charged. They would have never been at the Barton St. jail at the same time.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/2528201-jeremy-hall-guilty-of-murdering-billy-mason/
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Hmm, you gotta wonder how these miscreants knew each other then.

What does this mean?

According to sources who know the Millard family, police stepped up their pressure on Madeleine Burns not long after the additional charges were laid.
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http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/tag/madeleine-burns

Is DM's circle still covering for him? Will there be more charges? (There is no time limit on indictable offenses like accessory after the fact to murder.) Are there other local bad boys who are known to DM? Are LE looking at DM's inner circle still? Will more charges be laid?
 
SnooperDuper said:
Hmm, you gotta wonder how these miscreants knew each other then.

What does this mean?



http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/tag/madeleine-burns

Is DM's circle still covering for him? Will there be more charges? (There is no time limit on indictable offenses like accessory after the fact to murder.) Are there other local bad boys who are known to DM? Are LE looking at DM's inner circle still? Will more charges be laid?
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From the same article: MB represented DM in small claims court and claimed DM was innocent. Innocent of what though? We've yet to find out what that case was about. MM's Harley/trailer theft? A previous tenant case? Former employee? Obviously DM was the defendant.

Snooper do you suspect DM still has supporters other then a few hanger onners? SS IMO was just being a nice guy and no doubt was paid for helping MB liquidate DM's stuff because he had better knowledge of those things then MB but not sure it he supports DM still. Even relatives have spoken against DM. And yes, it's not too late for LE to lay more charges. It was a bit of a surprise to see CN getting charged almost a year after DM's arrest, TB's murder. Did DM's investigation snowball leading LE into other criminal connections besides MWJ, and LE are still investigating perhaps? ALL MOO.

In the summer of 2013, months after her son’s arrest, she told a judge in Toronto small claims court, where she was appearing on Dellen’s behalf, that he was innocent. It’s not known what her reaction was when MIllard was charged in April 2014 with the first degree murders of his father, Wayne, and his friend, Laura Babcock.
 
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