Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #3

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And what would that be...because they were not made public during the first round of the so called Peace talks!!??
War in Ukraine: Vladimir Putin's 4 unacceptable conditions for him to accept a ceasefire! (msn.com)
The first day of negotiations between Ukrainians and Russians ended in failure for the simple reason that the conditions set out by Vladimir Putin for him to accept a ceasefire are "unacceptable", according to a source at the Élysée who confided in our colleagues at Le Point.

And for good reason, the Russian head of state indicated that he had four demands before laying down his arms: "the neutrality of Ukraine, its disarmament, its renunciation of entering NATO and Ukraine's recognition of Crimea as a Russian entity". Several conditions that Ukrainian President Zelensky is not about to accept... The latter also made it known to the President of the Republic Emmanuel Macron during a telephone interview held during the same day last Monday...

*Translated from French by Google
 
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Russia-Ukraine war latest news: Biden condemns Putin ‘tyranny’; Russian troops land in Kharkiv - live | World news | The Guardian

8h ago 00:39
Moscow’s stock market will stay closed for the third consecutive day on Wednesday, the Moscow Times reports.

Russian brokers have been ordered to reject sell orders from foreign investors when the market eventually reopens.

2h ago 0 6:10
Summary
The time in Ukraine is 1.10pm. Here is a roundup from the news so far today:
  • Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy said nearly 6,000 Russians had been killed in the first six days of Moscow’s invasion, and that the Kremlin would not be able to take his country with bombs and airstrikes.
  • Russian troops have reportedly landed in Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second most populous city, according to the security service of Ukraine. Ukrainian authorities said Russian airborne troops landed at approximately 3am local time and engaged in heavy fighting with Ukrainian forces.
  • Ukrainian authorities say a Russian missile strike at about 8.10am hit a police building and a university in Kharkiv this morning.
  • Four more people were killed and nine wounded as a barrage of Russian air and rocket strikes pounded Kharkiv, the local emergency services and mayor Ihor Terekhov said.
  • Overnight reports said a fire at a hospital in Kharkiv broke out. According to an alert issued just before 3am from Ukraine’s state special communications agency, Russian soldiers attacked a military medical clinical centre hospital in the city’s north.
  • Russia is claiming to have seized Kherson on the Black Sea in southern Ukraine. However, this is unconfirmed as the city’s mayor has so far said only that Russian forces have taken control of the railway station and the port.
  • Ukraine is set to receive more Stinger and Javelin missiles from abroad, as well as another shipment of Turkish drones, according to Ukrainian defence minister Oleksii Reznikov.
  • The Kremlin said Russian officials were ready to hold a second round of talks with Ukraine on Wednesday but it was not clear if Ukrainian officials would turn up.
  • European Union diplomats have approved new sanctions against Belarus for its supporting role in Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the French presidency of the EU confirmed. EU diplomats have approved new sanctions against Belarusian people who are playing a role in the attacks to Ukraine, Reuters reported.
  • The European Commission has proposed to grant temporary protection to people fleeing war in Ukraine, including a residence permit and access to employment and social welfare.
  • China won’t join the US and European governments in imposing financial sanctions on Russia, the country’s bank regulator has announced.
  • Russia cancelled an attempt to send four of its warships through Turkish waters into the Black Sea at Turkey’s request, Foreign minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu said, adding the decision was made before Ankara closed the straits over Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine.
  • The United Nations said that at least 136 civilians have been killed in the invasion, although the real number of people is likely to be much higher.
  • Russia’s largest lender, Sberbank, is leaving the European market as its subsidiaries there face large cash outflows and threats to the safety of employees and property, the bank said on Wednesday.
 
Russia-Ukraine war latest: Putin’s troops besiege Kherson as Zelenskiy says ‘they have orders to erase us all’ – live | World news | The Guardian

31m ago 08:11
Talks between Ukraine and Russia will resume today, CNN is reporting, citing a Ukrainian presidential aide.

The second round of talks is expected to comprise of the same representatives present at the first round of talks on Monday.

The aide told CNN: Now it’s official. The second round of talks between Ukraine and the occupier will take place today.

The location of the talks has not yet been confirmed. On Monday, talks took place in Belarus, near the Belarus-Poland border.

21m ago 08:22
The Ukrainian port city of Mariupol is suffering mass casualties and a water outage as it defends itself from a nonstop onslaught by Russian forces, according to its mayor Vadym Boichenko.

In a live broadcast on Ukrainian TV, Boichenko said:

The enemy occupying forces of the Russian Federation have done everything to block the exit of civilians from the city of half a million people.

Mariupol’s mayor said Russian forces had been “flattening us non-stop for 12 hours now”, the Interfax news agency reported.

We cannot even take the wounded from the streets, from houses and apartments today, since the shelling does not stop.

8m ago 08:36
At least four people were killed and nine wounded after a fresh attack in Kharkiv this morning, the Ukrainian state emergency service said.

There are reports that Russian missiles have once again hit the centre of Ukraine’s second largest city, striking an area close to the city council building.

[...]

Kharkiv, a city of 1.5 million people, has been turned into a bombed-out wasteland of ruined buildings and debris after intense shelling and airstrikes by Russian forces.

After an air strike on Wednesday morning, the roof of a police building in the centre of the city collapsed as it was engulfed in flames.

2m ago 13:44
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Yes...determination, motivation is a much bigger thing then training IMO. I don't know if you followed the discussion. <modsnip>.It was about volunteers with guts and desire wanted to join the fights in Ukraine against Russia, but maybe didn't have a military background to really help.

I have been following the discussion and I find it very informative from everyone.

I guess your last words prove my point, ". . .to really help." To me, every BODY is a show of strength, of unity. Every weapon has potential, even though some hands are better than others. Sometimes, however, those "trained" don't seem to perform as well as they might. I'm thinking about Afghanistan.

No matter, we are all on the same side here, although things really do seem to be somewhat murky in some areas, IMO.
 
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Belarus president stands in front of map indicating Moldova invasion plans

Belarus president stands in front of map indicating Moldova invasion plans

Lukashenko, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, was reportedly addressing his security council Tuesday while standing in front of a battle map of Ukraine.

The map appeared to show troop movement plans and infrastructure targets in Ukraine, as well as targets in Moldova's breakaway region of Transnistria.
 
EXCLUSIVE: Voice message reveals Russian military unit's catastrophic losses in Ukraine (kyivindependent.com)
[...]

The Kyiv Independent obtained a WhatsApp audio message recorded by a woman residing in the city of Aleysk in Russia’s Altai region some 3,500 kilometers east of Kyiv, the home base for the 35th Brigade.

In the voice message, an unidentified woman weeps telling her fellow WhatsApp group member that the local “tank brigade” was “totally destroyed in Ukraine.”

Audio: https://kyivindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/AUD-20220301-WA0000.mp3

In particular, she mentions that “just 18 out of 150 guys survived,” probably meaning one of the brigade’s formations was destroyed by Ukrainian troops. Besides, the speaker says the first batch of 45 coffins, mostly young people from the town and villages nearby, were coming to Aleysk on the day of the recorded voice message.

The weeping woman also says some of the killed were her neighbors and acquaintances. She particularly mentions a military service-member named Evgeniy Zhilin. This name can be found in the leaked register of 120,000 Russian soldiers allegedly involved in the invasion of Ukraine published on March 1 by Ukraine’s Center for Defense Strategies, a think tank. There is also a deleted VK social media account of a Evgeniy Zhilin from Aleysk.

According to the woman, the killed were mostly very young men. The local community found out about their deaths the day before the recording was made, and it mourned the loss.

[...]

Meanwhile, Russian leadership continues to refuse to publish any exact data on casualties of its war in Ukraine. In most cases, Russian propaganda outlets report on Russia’s “special military operation in Ukraine” saying that no Russian casualties have been sustained.

But as of early March 1, the Ukrainian military reported as many as 5,710 Russian manpower casualties since the all-out invasion’s first day on Feb. 24, which is comparable to Russian military losses in the two-year-long First Chechen War.

[...]
 
Emilio Morenatti on Twitter
Local militiaman Valery, 37, carries a child as he helps a fleeing family across a bridge destroyed in the outskirts of Kyiv, Ukraine, Wednesday, March 2. 2022.


Joel Gunter on Twitter
Horrible conversation with the deputy mayor of Mariupol. Says residential areas heavily bombed, including his father's neighbourhood. "The situation is awful, we are near to a humanitarian catastrophe. We have been under more than 15 hours of continuous shelling without pause."

Joel Gunter on Twitter
“One district of the city is nearly totally destroyed ... We cannot count the number of victims there but we believe at least hundreds of people are dead. We cannot go in to retrieve the bodies. My father lives there, I cannot reach him, I don't know if he is alive or dead."

Joel Gunter on Twitter
“The Russian forces are several kilometres away on all sides. The Ukrainian army is brave and they will continue to defend the city, but Russia does not fight with their army, they just destroy districts. “We believe in our Ukrainian army, but we are in a terrible situation.”

DW News on Twitter - Video
"We think that it's the last safe day in Kyiv." Residents are rushing to board trains at the city's central station as a large Russian military convoy approaches Ukraine's capital. Many fear the time window to leave is closing fast.

Arezou Rezvani on Twitter - Video
The lovely city of Lviv has so far been spared the worst of Russia’s invasion. But civilians are still arming up. Daily weapons trainings are free and open to the public. And starting today, you can no longer buy alcohol anywhere in Ukraine.
 
I hope these are okay to post - just to "lighten" the mood!

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My brother posted this on his FB page. So no link... So - JMHO!

This was released by a former prime minister of Latvia in the Latvian language. Here is an English version of that smart opinion:

Mr. Putin: it’s amazing what you’ve accomplished in just 5 days:
• Made the EU a superpower,
• Strengthened NATO
• Increased Germany's defense budget by 100 billion
• Deneutralized Switzerland
• Prepared Sweden & Finland for NATO
• United the world against Russia
• The whole world prays for Ukraine
• Killed more than 5,000 of your country's soldiers
• Raised Ukraine's presidential rating to 96%
• The biggest hacker groups are fighting against Russia #PutinWarCriminal,
In addition:
• Made Japan ready to deploy nuclear weapons
• Terminated Germany's long-standing commitment (since World War II) not to engage in conflict or to send weapons to conflict zones
• Enabled the US & NATO to establish a "no-fly zone" for Russian military aviation over Ukraine
• Created preconditions for Russia's economic collapse (wait until sanctions take effect and reparations are recovered)
• Brought Russia to the level & status of North Korea
 
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