SC - Columbia - Sheriff Slams Female Student to Floor In Class - #2

[Hope4More]

And she was asked by the officer 5 times to stand?

That's been widely reported. Not new news.

 

[katydid23]

Do you think it was because she was new to the school that she wasn't aware of what would happen when the officer was called?
I wonder if she was even aware about the cell phone rule.

She is a senior in high school and does not know she needs to listen to her teacher and her vice principal when they ask her to leave the classroom? A senior and she did not know she could not mess with her cell during class time? A senior that did not know that a Deputy has the right to order her out of her desk?

 

[kimlynn]

That's been widely reported. Not new news.

Okay...I'll check around later because I've been following this case and missed that it was the officer that had asked her 5 times to stand.

 

[kimlynn]

She is a senior in high school and does not know she needs to listen to her teacher and her vice principal when they ask her to leave the classroom? A senior and she did not know she could not mess with her cell during class time? A senior that did not know that a Deputy has the right to order her out of her desk?

My understanding is that she is a foster child so IMO it's possible she may have attended schools that were very different than this one. Just a thought on my part.

 

[Hope4More]

The girl who was interviewed said they all took out their phones because they knew what was coming. How would they know what to expect if they hadn't seen him in action previously?

Use common sense. Every kid in that classroom knew she was way way way out of line, had seen her defy first a teacher, then a VP, then a cop. They heard the cop warn her and they heard her refuse, and they saw him move towards her.

In America nowadays its pretty much standard that bystanders in that kind of situation whip out their phones and hit record.

Check out YouTube if you doubt how prevalent that response is.

 

[bluesneakers]

Okay...I'll check around later because I've been following this case and missed that it was the officer that had asked her 5 times to stand.

I've been following closely and I haven't seen that either, and it's not apparent from watching the video. He barely gives himself enough time to say it once.

 

[kimlynn]

I would think that most kids who had attended any school at all would be aware that teachers can get varying degrees of pissy if you are using your cell phone in their class. Most kids will have an "oh $hit" reaction when called out for it. If not at that point, at least when the principal is called. If not then, AT LEAST when the SRO is called. I gotta hand it to this girl, she's got nerves of steel! If my son gets called out for talking or not paying attention he is still shaken up about it when he gets in the car at the end of the day. Often he has some BS story about how he wasn't REALLY doing anything, but he chooses to accept the supposed "injustice" and comply and fly under the radar for the rest of the day. This seems more typical to me than what the student in this case did.

We have heard from two of the other students and I have yet to hear from anyone that was there that day that she did anything other than take out her phone for a peek. One even said she was apologetic about it and she insisted she had done nothing wrong.
Both students appear well spoken and polite and I have no reason to suspect they are saying anything other than what they observed that day.
My take so far is that we have a teacher that totally mishandled this situation and it went from there. IMO

 

[kimlynn]

And the jury found him NOT GUILTY in the first case. Just because someone sues you it does not mean you are guilty.

The second case is still ongoing. He is one of TEN defendants that accused a student of being a gang member. The student denies he is a gang member. I am sure there were reasons that the SRO thought the student was an active gang member. Was he mistaken? POssibly. But that does not make him 'violent.'


So we have ONE CASE from 2007, where the court sided with him. And one where he is one of ten people, being sued by a disgruntled student. And it is not about excessive force.

IMO that is a lot of complaints against an officer on the force for only 7 or 10 yrs.

 

[CCmakes3]

We have heard from two of the other students and I have yet to hear from anyone that was there that day that she did anything other than take out her phone for a peek. One even said she was apologetic about it and she insisted she had done nothing wrong.
Both students appear well spoken and polite and I have no reason to suspect they are saying anything other than what they observed that day.
My take so far is that we have a teacher that totally mishandled this situation and it went from there. IMO

Ok, but if she truly put her phone away after one peek I would think she would have more of an "oh $hit!" reaction when then SRO walks in. My son would have wet his pants!

 

[Hope4More]

I've been following closely and I haven't seen that either, and it's not apparent from watching the video. He barely gives himself enough time to say it once.

You seem to be assuming the kids took out their cellphones and started recording immediately. When the very reason all this was unfolding was because a student broke the rules by taking out her cell phone.


Consider WHEN the 2 or 3 kids would have begun recording.

 

[SophieRose]

Okay...I'll check around later because I've been following this case and missed that it was the officer that had asked her 5 times to stand.

Not that hard to find.

http://www.wistv.com/story/30353999...violent-incident-at-spring-valley-high-school

The person who posted the Instagram video says the student was initially asked to leave the class for telling the teacher that she would not put away her phone. The poster says the teacher disciplined the student with a write-up for being disrespectful and disobedient. After being asked to leave again, and her refusing, an administrator came to remove her, she refused, and that is when the SRO was called in.

The poster of this video claims when Fields got to the classroom, he asked her to get up from her desk 4 or 5 times and again, she tells him no. After moving objects from around the student, and asking again to leave the classroom, and her refusing, that is where you see the officer getting physical.

 

[bluesneakers]

We have heard from two of the other students and I have yet to hear from anyone that was there that day that she did anything other than take out her phone for a peek. One even said she was apologetic about it and she insisted she had done nothing wrong.
Both students appear well spoken and polite and I have no reason to suspect they are saying anything other than what they observed that day.
My take so far is that we have a teacher that totally mishandled this situation and it went from there. IMO

The tweets at the link probably count as rumour, but this is from a reporter's verified account:

[video=twitter;658753751889657856]https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/658753751889657856[/video]

Story:

http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2015...icer-violently-slams-teen-girl-to-the-ground/

 

[katydid23]

IMO that is a lot of complaints against an officer on the force for only 7 or 10 yrs.

TWO complaints in 10 years is a lot? And in the second complaint, he is one of ten defendants. It is not against him personally.

 

[bluesneakers]

IMO that is a lot of complaints against an officer on the force for only 7 or 10 yrs.

I hope the couple from the 2007 case releases the video.

 

[katydid23]

The tweets at the link probably count as rumour, but this is from a reporter's verified account:

[video=twitter;658753751889657856]https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/658753751889657856[/video]

Story:

http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2015...icer-violently-slams-teen-girl-to-the-ground/

Shaun King? One of the most biased, disreputable sources I can think of.

 

[kimlynn]

Ok, but if she truly put her phone away after one peek I would think she would have more of an "oh $hit!" reaction when then SRO walks in. My son would have wet his pants!

I don't doubt she was scared. Who wouldn't be.
I think she glanced at her phone and was called on it by the teacher who asked her to give him her phone,so it sounds as though putting the phone away wasn't an option for her.
Without being there it would be hard to say how it went down,but from the accounts of the only two students we have heard from and the media reports saying she refused to give up her phone...it wasn't a matter of simply putting her phone into her purse or pocket.

 

[Hope4More]

We have heard from two of the other students and I have yet to hear from anyone that was there that day that she did anything other than take out her phone for a peek. One even said she was apologetic about it and she insisted she had done nothing wrong.
Both students appear well spoken and polite and I have no reason to suspect they are saying anything other than what they observed that day.
My take so far is that we have a teacher that totally mishandled this situation and it went from there. IMO

Again and again. She did break the rule about phones. Whether it was one peek or 5 minutes of peeking is completely irrelevant, though I very much doubt it was a second's worth of peeking, because in real life a teacher likely wouldn't have been able to catch her if that was all she did. The teacher was.....teaching, had other things to do than to lay in wait and pounce on phone abusers.

The looking at phone was minor, regardless. Defying the teacher was not. Why is that difficult to grasp? Defying the teacher after being written up was not only out of line but in the real world- alarming. That is NOT typical behavior, and every defiance after that was not only atypical but genuine cause for concern.

 

[kimlynn]

TWO complaints in 10 years is a lot? And in the second complaint, he is one of ten defendants. It is not against him personally.

So you're only counting two? Okay whatever works for you.

 

[jjenny]

My understanding is that she is a foster child so IMO it's possible she may have attended schools that were very different than this one. Just a thought on my part.

What school could she have possibly attended where she didn't have to follow instructions from the teachers and administration?

 

[katydid23]

I don't doubt she was scared. Who wouldn't be.
I think she glanced at her phone and was called on it by the teacher who asked her to give him her phone,so it sounds as though putting the phone away wasn't an option for her.
Without being there it would be hard to say how it went down,but from the accounts of the only two students we have heard from and the media reports saying she refused to give up her phone...it wasn't a matter of simply putting her phone into her purse or pocket.

A DEPUTY asks her five times to get up from her seat and leave the classroom and she denies his request. That is obstinate and disruptive defiance. And what was the point of that defiant behavior? It was a silly waste of time and energy. And selfish, imo.