SC - Columbia - Sheriff Slams Female Student to Floor In Class

[al66pine]

Reminds me of an incident I witnessed at a store chain once. A young girl (maybe 9?) was standing up in the cart and her mother told her to "sit down" and when the child defied her, she jerked the cart so that the child fell backwards and slammed her head onto the hard floor.
I guess since the child didn't listen, she deserved for her head to be split open.
I'm not making excuses for this young woman, but again... I think if we can try and find "reasoning" behind a woman driving her car into a crowd of innocent people (medical emergency, mental illness, etc...), killing and injuring many, then why can't we also try and look into the "reasoning" for this young woman's behavior?

I mean, shouldn't we be wondering why she is acting out? Questioning if something is going on at home? Or even in school??

This thread is about a student - who, per MSM reports of teacher & vice-prin - was disruptive in class, refused multiple times to obey instructions from 2 or 3 school employees, etc., not 9 y/o girl in store, who failed to follow her mother's one instruction?

Sorry, how is ^ relevant? Diff ppl, diff relationships, diff setting, diff rules & laws governing.

Common denominator is that some feel no physical action should have bn taken. Not defending LEO/SRO's toss/drag (what-ev terms) technique. Am saying, seems poss to me, that situation required him to take physical steps to remove her from classroom. JM2cts.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Looks like I need to hit the alert. If you think I'm violating TOS I'll make sure the Mods know.

I'm rooting for you. But seriously. I have never ever flagged a post nor alerted a mod of posts ever. We are all adults and his actions is sluethable. Jmo.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I laughed out loud. Literally. When I read that.

Lol. I chuckled when typing that flagging part as well. Lol. I didn't think some would take it seriously. I thought the just kidding part would have sufficed.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

If that was my granddaughter, she'd be in more trouble at home with her mom and dad than whatever trouble she's in at school.

But too many of the parents today seem to think that school doesn't matter and that defiant and disruptive behavior at school is acceptable. I wonder if this girl learned from her parents, or parent, that this kind of behavior is acceptable?

Can you honestly say that if that were your granddaughter, you would be a-okay with the treatment she received?

 

[vestigare]

Lol. I chuckled when typing that flagging part as well. Lol. I didn't think some would take it seriously. I thought the just kidding part would have sufficed.

I think there are too many of us from the other thread on this one...

Too funny.

 

[al66pine]

Originally Posted by RANCH
"What's scary is what children are not taught and what they are taught by their parents.
I would like to know what this teenager in SC was taught in regards to her teachers and what kind of behavior is acceptable when dealing with them."

Yes, I'd like to know too. Is it relevant at 16-17-18 y/o? Seems like she should be capable of making age-approp decisions for age-approp rules, and she did made decisions. Not good ones.

Her parent(s)/guardian(s) may
1. be locally viewed as pillars of community, loving parents, upright citizens, etc.
2. have been degenerate criminals, etc.
3. have tried to teach her to obey instantly (or on second request)?
3. have taught her that she need not obey, until (parent or teacher) instruction was given for the tenth time. If at all.

IDK. Regardless of what they tried to teach her, seems like what she learned was # 3. JM2cts.

 

[Montjoy]

Can you honestly say that if that were your granddaughter, you would be a-okay with the treatment she received?

...in before you receive what I expect to be the response of many who defend this bully: "There is no way that my granddaughter would act that way/with so little respect for authority."

 

[JeannaT]

Originally Posted by RANCH
"What's scary is what children are not taught and what they are taught by their parents.
I would like to know what this teenager in SC was taught in regards to her teachers and what kind of behavior is acceptable when dealing with them."

Yes, I'd like to know too. Is it relevant at 16-17-18 y/o? Seems like she should be capable of making age-approp decisions for age-approp rules, and she did made decisions. Not good ones.

Her parent(s)/guardian(s) may
1. be locally viewed as pillars of community, loving parents, upright citizens, etc.
2. have been degenerate criminals, etc.
3. have tried to teach her to obey instantly (or on second request)?
3. have taught her that she need not obey, until (parent or teacher) instruction was given for the tenth time. If at all.

IDK. Regardless of what they tried to teach her, seems like what she learned was # 3. JM2cts.

Well, for what it's worth, the one student who stuck up for her said she had "no one". I took that to mean she had no family at all and no one in her corner. Which would explain the kind of defiant behavior where she really didn't care what happened to her, and wanting to stick her thumb in the eye of the school administration. That behavior isn't typical of kids who have a loving, supportive family.

 

[Confusion]

Yes, I'd like to know too. Is it relevant at 16-17-18 y/o? Seems like she should be capable of making age-approp decisions for age-approp rules, and she did made decisions. Not good ones.

Her parent(s)/guardian(s) may
1. be locally viewed as pillars of community, loving parents, upright citizens, etc.
2. have been degenerate criminals, etc.
3. have tried to teach her to obey instantly (or on second request)?
3. have taught her that she need not obey, until (parent or teacher) instruction was given for the tenth time. If at all.

IDK. Regardless of what they tried to teach her, seems like what she learned was # 3. JM2cts.

Which number 3? :thinking:

 

[Tillicum]

From what we have read she had her phone out for a brief moment. I'm sure that could have been ignored until after class. IMO

Lott added that she had been texting and using her phone instead of doing her school work on a Chromebook during the algebra class.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...uth-carolina-student-punching-officer-n452481

 

[DexterMorgan]

Well, for what it's worth, the one student who stuck up for her said she had "no one". I took that to mean she had no family at all and no one in her corner. Which would explain the kind of defiant behavior where she really didn't care what happened to her, and wanting to stick her thumb in the eye of the school administration. That behavior isn't typical of kids who have a loving, supportive family.

Well she's about to be a million dollars richer than the cop and staff. Do you know why.

Because he messed up. And not her. He should have known better. He's the adult who acted like a child. Jmo

 

[bluesneakers]

Why can't we see the third video?


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[KaaBoom]

You refused to get out of a chair when the teacher told you to go to the office?

:iamashamed:I’ll plead the fifth.

I will say this much. When I went to school, and students refused to leave the classroom to go to the office, the teacher would call the principle. The principle would come and get the kid, using a lot less force then this cop used, and some of those kids were a lot bigger and less cooperative then this girl.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Why can't we see the third video?


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Idk. But y'all then made me mis my tmz comment section for the day. Lol

I just hope he would never do that to his child for talking back. He definitely learned this behavior from somewhere. Jmo

 

[al66pine]

Deputy Fields is not a "rent a cop." ....

Agreeing, he is not a "rent a cop." https://www.richland2.org/svh/Pages/staffdirectory.aspx lists him and another individual as "SRO" so I've referred to him as LEO/SRO.

Instead of azz-uming rent-a-cop or anything else, I'm interested in learning more about LEO/SRO status. Is he on school district payroll? Local/county sheriff payroll? Is he a 'sworn officer' (whatever that means)?

Someone here said he said he was placing student under arrest. If accurate, sounds like he has LE auth, but I have not yet checked w my friend Wiki or local-to-SVHS sites.

(O/T, when dinosaurs roamed the earth and I attended high school, at an auditorium assembly Office Friendly stopped in to say a few words. Seems so quaint in retrospect. We knew Mr G/Vice-Prin/Coach/Driving Instructor would call us to task for any infraction he perceived. Yes, I was among those interrogated and got what I deserved for being a smart mouth on that occasion. Mos' def' not relevant to thread topic, just taking a trip down Memory Lane. LOL x 10.)

SROs? Anyone?

 

[KaaBoom]

Well, that's a good thought for discussion. What should he have done, in front of this classroom full of students when she was told to get up out of her chair by a teacher, a principal and the RO, and she refused?

Well, assuming that all possible negotiations were exhausted, which I doubt they were. As someone else has already pointed out, they could have simply pulled her desk out into the hall and dealt with her there. Problem solved, class can go on.

 

[al66pine]

There have been studies that have shown children who are afraid to question authority are more likely to be molested.

For sake of discussion, I'll agree this ^ is accurate.
How is this ^ relevant to situation at hand in which teacher & vice-prin follow policy re 16-18 y/o high school student violating school's policy re cell usage, disrupting class, etc? Just curious, so Thx in Adv.

 

[KaaBoom]

So I'm really curious. What would happen, if all the kids in the school decided they don't have to do what the teachers say, and people in line at airports don't have to comply with TSA regulations? I know it's a tempting fantasy to think oh I don't have to comply with anything or any rules at all, but what would happen in that case? If you felt like you don't agree with traffic lights, and so you can choose to stop or go whenever you feel it's safe to do so, regardless of the expectations of the other drivers? There's a reason there aren't any societies based on anarchy - because they'd crumble in a day.

I don’t know about most of that, but I will focus on the TSA. Until 45 years ago the TSA didn’t exist. Nada, zip, nothing. Anybody could just walk right up to the plane and get on. No check, no ID, nothing. Yes, sometimes a plane got blown up with a bomb. Sometimes a plane got hijacked. But at least people were free, and they didn’t get molested by government agents every time they wanted to take a flight.

So the TSA is not a necessity. People can live without them, and I suspect that we could live just fine without most of the other rules you mention, and we would have a lot more freedom.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” - Benjamin Franklin

 

[Elley Mae]

Watching the videos here from different angles it is obvious that no one else in the class room seemed or looked surprised as it was happening, as if it was expected, I can't imagine being that defiant. And the man in the white shirt, (teacher?) doesn't seemed to be shocked at all. It looks as if all were OK with what happened except for her. Cell phones should NOT be allowed in school or work for that matter.


http://www.live5news.com/story/3036...following-spring-valley-use-of-force-incident

 

[Montjoy]

Watching the videos here from different angles it is obvious that no one else in the class room seemed or looked surprised as it was happening, as if it was expected, I can't imagine being that defiant. It looks as if all were OK with what happened except for her. Cell phones should NOT be allowed in school or work for that matter.

That's not quite true; one student was arrested for yelling when the girl was being beaten. I don't read a lack of surprise there -- I see shock and fear with the degree of violence.

As for the cell phones, I can see both sides of the issue. In this case, I am very glad they were in the room -- without them, there would be no visual evidence of this brutal, violent LEO's attack on a teenage girl.