SC - KB, 30, (alive) & Charlie Carver, 32, (dec'd) Anderson, 31 Aug 2016 *Arrest* #3

[FairM1]

Charlie's death is beyond tragic, words fail me , a pointless senseless act of cruelty . my thoughts are with his family who must be devastated

 

[Bently]

Oh no I wasn't suggesting that a woman was involved in the murder...more that a woman may have been the motivation for the murder.As with the rape case(he had feelings for her she just saw him as a friend and preferred his friends) and possibly with K(maybe it was the same scenario and this time he killed the person he saw as his love rival, Charles Carver.)

So maybe in the 2003 case he had feelings for a wife/partner of one of the victims that weren't recipricated or that they weren't even aware of and he killed the man he saw as his love rival, and those who saw him do it. I just saw that one of the victim's wife had just found out she was pregnant, maybe that was a trigger.

Just saw that in his real estate application, when explaining his previous conviction he referred to the girl he kidnapped as his girlfriend. It seems he may have relationships that only exist in his mind.

He, on his FB, referred to a girlfriend some folks have said perhaps it could it be he had someone at the time :dunno:

By the way, shout out to whomever made WS go fast again! This site hasn't been this fast reloading and posting and replying in years! New server? Whatever is making it fast for me, hope others are seeing such to a makes such a difference.! :tyou:

 

[mrseeker]

Interesting read on the bike shop murders he has apparently confessed to. This has the thoughts of a profiler and claims she knows the killer. Claims police interviewed him twice but eliminated him. Wonder who that was? http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.com/2012/05/criminal-profiling-topic-of-day-second.html

there is also a link to a youtube video on that page with a report from Geraldo

TK got out of prison on 11/24/2001 and Bike shop murders happened on 11/06/2003 . The composite kind of looks like the photo of a young TK from AZ dept of corrections. Does anyone know when TK arrived in SC? The 4 victims were found at the scene, so this has nothing to do with bodies that might be found on his land...and I think they are saying two more, plus Charlie. I think this is just the beginning.

 

[matou]

Meg KinnardVerified account ‏@MegKinnardAP [video=twitter;795277144263979008]https://twitter.com/MegKinnardAP/status/795277144263979008[/video]Spartanburg County Detention Center
Here's one of the documents released today on Todd Kohlhepp's confession to the 2003 #Superbike slayings. Bond hearing at 11am.

 

[fred&edna]

He, on his FB, referred to a girlfriend some folks have said perhaps it could it be he had someone at the time :dunno:

By the way, shout out to whomever made WS go fast again! This site hasn't been this fast reloading and posting and replying in years! New server? Whatever is making it fast for me, hope others are seeing such to a makes such a difference.! :tyou:

I believe the shiny speedy new server is in prep for A&E The Killing Season... WS and some members featured prominently.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?597-The-Killing-Season

http://www.aetv.com/shows/the-killing-season

 

[Lauranyc83]

I was looking back at some screenshots I had taken when the posting was happening on CDCs fb page...omg I got the chills with one on September 24th that was posted to CDCs page as him.

It's an image that says "Sometimes late at night I dig a hole in my backyard to keep the nosey neighbors guessing"

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[ColourPurple]

Originally Posted by ColourPurple
Oh no I wasn't suggesting that a woman was involved in the murder...more that a woman may have been the motivation for the murder.As with the rape case(he had feelings for her she just saw him as a friend and preferred his friends) and possibly with K (maybe it was the same scenario and this time he killed the person he saw as his love rival, Charles Carver.)

So maybe in the 2003 case he had feelings for a wife/partner of one of the victims that weren't recipricated or that they weren't even aware of and he killed the man he saw as his love rival, and those who saw him do it. I just saw that one of the victim's wife had just found out she was pregnant, maybe that was a trigger.


Just saw that in his real estate application, when explaining his previous conviction he referred to the girl he kidnapped as his girlfriend. It seems he may have relationships that only exist in his mind.

He, on his FB, referred to a girlfriend some folks have said perhaps it could it be he had someone at the time :dunno:

By the way, shout out to whomever made WS go fast again! This site hasn't been this fast reloading and posting and replying in years! New server? Whatever is making it fast for me, hope others are seeing such to a makes such a difference.! :tyou:

Interesting.I wonder if it was a real girlfriend or whether it was KB he was referring to.Do we know when he first mentioned a girlfriend on FB?

 

[fred&edna]

It seems to me he kills to get what he wants.


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And, with some of these killings his "want" might have only been self-gratification. Maybe??

 

[Steleheart]

Oh no I wasn't suggesting that a woman was involved in the murder...more that a woman may have been the motivation for the murder.As with the rape case(he had feelings for her she just saw him as a friend and preferred his friends) and possibly with K (maybe it was the same scenario and this time he killed the person he saw as his love rival, Charles Carver.)

So maybe in the 2003 case he had feelings for a wife/partner of one of the victims that weren't recipricated or that they weren't even aware of and he killed the man he saw as his love rival, and those who saw him do it. I just saw that one of the victim's wife had just found out she was pregnant, maybe that was a trigger.

Just saw that in his real estate application, when explaining his previous conviction he referred to the girl he kidnapped as his girlfriend. It seems he may have relationships that only exist in his mind.

ITA. I think these murders and the kidnapping of K starts with a fixation on a woman then he violently eliminates the rival male.In the superbike murders he needed to eliminate all of them.

Violent and sudden.

MOO

 

[Foxfire]

Someone (LDD) posted an elementary school photo of TK, 5th grade Samuel Elbert Academy.

Is this where the school was located, if you know. 1971 a private school named the Samuel Elbert Academy was chartered in Elberton, Georgia.

 

[Dogface]

OMG!! People who know him are posting screen shots of convos with TK. Someone posted a screenshot of a msg to him where they share K's missing poster and he replies "WTF".

Also, people recall creepy behavior and texts.

I have the chills.

https://www.facebook.com/CodyAlcornNews/?pnref=story

I can't seem to find the screenshots you are talking about, are they on one of the stories in the comments?


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[fred&edna]

Is this where the school was located, if you know. 1971 a private school named the Samuel Elbert Academy was chartered in Elberton, Georgia.

Yes, I think so... per the facebook post. And, I know that in the psych reports TK lived in GA for a time during his youth.

 

[Midge Montana]

Live feed right now with Mr. Guy, whose wife and stepson were two of the victims in the Superbike case.
My heart is breaking for this man.
https://www.facebook.com/foxcarolin...if_t=notify_me_page&notif_id=1478395385331749

 

[Bently]

I believe the shiny speedy new server is in prep for A&E The Killing Season... WS and some members featured prominently.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?597-The-Killing-Season

http://www.aetv.com/shows/the-killing-season

Fabulous, thanks! I look forward to seeing our WS members highlighted. I have no idea of what this show will be featuring, but will tune in.

I also noticed after I posted, that there are no longer any ads, nor any streaming videos that autolaunch as usual. I wonder if that is a members only feature that we had years ago?

 

[Foxfire]

Yes, I think so... per the facebook post. And, I know that in the psych reports TK lived in GA for a time during his youth.

This is near the State of GA Mental Hospital, Milledgeville, GA. Dots are beginning to be connected, imo...

In 1980, when Kohlhepp would have been 8 or 9 years old, he was admitted to a Georgia mental-health facility because of his mother’s inability to enforce limits and his behavioral problems in school, according to a juvenile probation officer’s report. He also appeared preoccupied with sex during his early sessions, though that decreased in time.

Asylum: Inside Central State Hospital, once the world’s largest mental institution
The Milledgeville property is now mostly empty and falling into decay. 2,000-acres still echo with the memory of the patients who were treated—and mistreated—at Georgia’s state asylum.
http://www.atlantamagazine.com/grea...e-hospital-worlds-largest-mental-institution/

Parents routinely admonished misbehaving children with the threat, “I’m going to send you to Milledgeville!” Georgia novelist Terry Kay recalls that as a boy in the 1940s, “it was one of the few words with great power. Milledgeville. City of the crazies. It was a word of fear and mystery, a word that classified ‘funny’ people.”
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Court documents highlight troubled past of man accused of holding Anderson woman captive
http://www.wfxg.com/story/33628581/...man-accused-of-holding-anderson-woman-captive

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Remember his interests listed riding motorbikes, racing.....


he left a bread crumb, but there was no way to connect him to all of this without K, and Charlie....they are the ones that drew attention, and if the perp was on LE's radar for anything, then maybe that's why they suspected his involvement.....


Just a miracle that either was found. Further miracle that K is alive! And that Charlie's body was found. On 97 acres, without someone telling you where to dig or look, no way the bodies would have been located.

Motive on the superbike case??? Did he have engine work he wasn't pleased with? Did he rob the store? Was one a competitor against him in races? Just what was the motive to walk into that store, in broad daylight, execute each of the 4, and walk out? SMH..... it doesn't make sense, yet it happened!

The 2 other graves on the property, that would have to be recent like since he purchased the property...

And where the heck did all his money come from??? Do we have unsolved bank robberies??? How do you get out of prison, and make that much money in such a short time frame? Heck I've never been to jail or prison, and yet no way could afford 2 BMWs, 2 real estate properties, especially 97 acres, and a house on another property! then all the buildings on that property, fencing in with chain link fence 97 acres, all the tractors and equipment, the diesel drums, the shipping container....all that cost money!!! I want approx 5 acres chained linked for my dogs.....estimate was over $10K about 8 yrs ago!!

How did he do it? Even if in debt, he still had access to funds at some point. You can't just go buy 97 acres off your looks. THe house and property he lived in, that costs. Did he rent an office? Or own the office

My thoughts exactly re: the money motive in some cases. Some articles report that the woman who was killed in the Superbike 7 shop was planning to make a deposit. And there are reports on ws's that TK had POA on some clients? Any of those go missing perchance?

I think TK will play this a lot like Bundy. He wants to represent himself for both narcissistic reasons and also for a possible appeal. He'll enjoy manipulating LE with tales of his crimes and then going on field trips only to lead LE on wild goose chases. He won't want to reveal all of his victim's placements because he will no longer have leverage. And the frequent exposure will increase his status with other inmates. To this day, we still wonder where Bundy disposed of some of the victims that he confessed to killing. I think this was a deliberate ploy to keep his 'legacy' alive (poor choice of wording).

Further, I don't believe that there was a long lapse between killings with TK. It was cathartic and thrilling for TK, IMO. He needed to satiate his lust for evil. I am in no way an expert in this field so this is MOO. He is a very evil monster and needs to be locked up forever or extinguished. At fifteen months, TK was reported to have been a problem. Nature or nurture or a combination of both? Was there history of an attachment disorder with his mother? I sure wish we understood so that we could prevent 'Brain'kenstein monsters such as TK, Bundy, et al in the future.

 

[Momoffourboys]

I can't seem to find the screenshots you are talking about, are they on one of the stories in the comments?


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They are under the story from 12 hours ago posted by EY.

 

[sugarbritches]

I'm the person who spawned the "not tech-savvy" conversation. I mostly meant that he didn't seem to buy a lot of consumer electronics stuff, or at least if he did he didn't write reviews on them with the same gallows humor. I'd also probably argue that a Computer Science degree earned in prison in the 90s (?) wouldn't be very applicable today. But ultimately the only real point I was making was that while he enjoyed his "funny" Amazon reviews and made weird FB posts, computers and tech did not seem to be central to his life. He chose to make his money in a different field, for example. (Except, of course, that no one seems to know where his money actually came from.) Obviously my mind could be changed if more details come out, such as cameras on the property, a lot of computers being seized in warrants, etc, but it's not really a debate I'm super interested in pursuing.

No one ever mentioned whether any of the 7000 YouTube videos actually include him on screen or speaking?

Meanwhile, here's the thread for Tracy Wright, missing from Spartanburg since October 12. Her case could use some WS eyes.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...y-L-Wright-Spartanburg-County-12-October-2016

I am still catching up but I sat and went through his YouTube posts. Many are just repeats and he never appears. I do feel some are him showing off possible crime scenes.

 

[fred&edna]

This is near the State of GA Mental Hospital, Milledgeville, GA. Dots are beginning to be connected, imo...

In 1980, when Kohlhepp would have been 8 or 9 years old, he was admitted to a Georgia mental-health facility because of his mother&#8217;s inability to enforce limits and his behavioral problems in school, according to a juvenile probation officer&#8217;s report. He also appeared preoccupied with sex during his early sessions, though that decreased in time.

Asylum: Inside Central State Hospital, once the world&#8217;s largest mental institution
The Milledgeville property is now mostly empty and falling into decay. 2,000-acres still echo with the memory of the patients who were treated&#8212;and mistreated&#8212;at Georgia&#8217;s state asylum.
http://www.atlantamagazine.com/grea...e-hospital-worlds-largest-mental-institution/

Parents routinely admonished misbehaving children with the threat, &#8220;I&#8217;m going to send you to Milledgeville!&#8221; Georgia novelist Terry Kay recalls that as a boy in the 1940s, &#8220;it was one of the few words with great power. Milledgeville. City of the crazies. It was a word of fear and mystery, a word that classified &#8216;funny&#8217; people.&#8221;
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Whoa!

(Possible contributing factors in the creation of a monster)

 

[Momoffourboys]

This is near the State of GA Mental Hospital, Milledgeville, GA. Dots are beginning to be connected, imo...

In 1980, when Kohlhepp would have been 8 or 9 years old, he was admitted to a Georgia mental-health facility because of his mother’s inability to enforce limits and his behavioral problems in school, according to a juvenile probation officer’s report. He also appeared preoccupied with sex during his early sessions, though that decreased in time.

Asylum: Inside Central State Hospital, once the world’s largest mental institution
The Milledgeville property is now mostly empty and falling into decay. 2,000-acres still echo with the memory of the patients who were treated—and mistreated—at Georgia’s state asylum.
http://www.atlantamagazine.com/grea...e-hospital-worlds-largest-mental-institution/

Parents routinely admonished misbehaving children with the threat, “I’m going to send you to Milledgeville!” Georgia novelist Terry Kay recalls that as a boy in the 1940s, “it was one of the few words with great power. Milledgeville. City of the crazies. It was a word of fear and mystery, a word that classified ‘funny’ people.”
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Hey Foxfire! Was hoping you would join this thread.