SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #30

[clearskies1]

He can't adequately explain the big lie. Nor can he explain not hearing the shotgun blasts as he supposedly began riding away on a golf cart less than a minute before the murders. JMO.

 

[Seattle1]

Why can’t they use it to prove/show bad character?

Bad character is typically excluded from admissible evidence but can be introduced during sentencing.

In this case, the defense opened the door for the financial crimes to be admitted as evidence and why the state is questioning AM about how he stole millions from vulnerable, injured, clients.

At the conclusion of today's trial, DH complained to the court about AM's character being denigrated but Judge Newman was quick to respond that the credibility of a witness in any trial is an issue.

IMO, this is about the credibility of the witness where AM is a proven liar about very important matters that caused him to lose his law license and you should not believe him about not killing his wife and son either. MOO

 

[passionflower]

Court TV expert body language AM shakes head yes while answers no. Jurors are mirror him not good with jury crying. 911 call try to tend to them failed to help. Acting. Pulled eyebrows together. Dry mouth. Deep concentration pushes tinge. Wow. She nails it AM can look you in the eye and lies. He admitted it. Compares to drew Peterson with charm

 

[Pitsleuth]

the motive was to buy time? seems absurd and there is no financial reason behind this , no insurance..etc..
I dunno...seems like white collar crime is one thing..he might go to jail , he may have to make restitution...but murder? come on.. why do this? to your baby? to your wife? I don't believe it. mOO

Then who did? Seriously. Who else had any motive whatsoever.

 

[arielilane]

Memories from earlier today

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628767862612434944

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

okay now I'm seeing something else...and sorry if it's been mentioned, I am late to this game..but what if he wanted his pills? did his mom have pills at her house? what if he went back and was like give me my damm pills? but they wouldn't tell him where they were or whatever..what if he fired his gun to scare them but it hit
one of them and then he had to shoot the other witness..because he was PARANOID and freaking out...?

still I don't see it..they have to show me..so far I know he's a swindler..thats all I've got. I can't really blame him for being cunning in his description of events and steering to certain things..he is an attorney after all.

mOO

if he can swindle Gloria S’s son he is just evil.
I think he definitely did take pills but I am not buying in to the 50k/week drug habit, he would be non functioning and most likely dead. His life was a dumpster fire since the boat case.

 

[Curious Me]

Court TV expert body language AM shakes head yes while answers no. Jurors are mirror him not good with jury crying. 911 call try to tend to them failed to help. Acting. Pulled eyebrows together. Dry mouth. Deep concentration pushes tinge. Wow. She nails it AM can look you in the eye and lies. He admitted it. Compares to drew Peterson with charm

Janine Driver, love her. Yes, compared him to Drew Peterson. She said that the saying-- "Overly charming is alarming" is exactly something the jury often falls for. Really shocking that two jurors cried falling for his glib act of a charming liar. A little worried about gullible jurors.​

 

[minazoe]

there are some very high functioning addicts out there.

 

[makayla]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628909720185585665

I can’t stop laughing after reading this tweet …. beyond clever!

 

[justtrish]

Bad character is typically excluded from admissible evidence but can be introduced during sentencing.

In this case, the defense opened the door for the financial crimes to be admitted as evidence and why the state is questioning AM about how he stole millions from vulnerable, injured, clients.

At the conclusion of today's trial, DH complained to the court about AM's character being denigrated but Judge Newman was quick to respond that the credibility of a witness in any trial is an issue.

IMO, this is about the credibility of the witness where AM is a proven liar about very important matters that caused him to lose his law license and you should not believe him about not killing his wife and son either. MOO

And let's not forget Alex himself is who put himself in this position by taking the stand. If he didn't take the stand to try to convince the jury of his innocence, then the state wouldn't be able to ask all these questions about how he lied right to his clients and then deceived them. It is relevant to deciding if a juror should believe him when he looks right at them and says I didn't murder my wife and I didn't murder Paul. Really so we should believe he is now being truthful, but I'm sure all those clients.. children, disabled, and even his own brother and best friend.. he stole from and they also believed him.

If Alex felt confident that he had a good defense in this case, he wouldn't be on the stand.. so I think Alex himself said it best.. the tangled web. How right he is.. on that point at least.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

I didn't get to watch today and have just seen a few snippets this evening.

How was AM's body language while on the stand? I would love some insight. Thank you.

I was trying to watch for things I learned on The Behavior Panel but I am very new at what to watch for. I did see rapid blinking with some of the hot-button topics. Sometimes he was protecting his privates by crossing his legs and or dropping his hands in his lap. His leg jiggling was probably just his ADHD. OMO.

Despite noticing some of the rapid blinking I thought his testimony under the defense examination was very compelling even with his discrediting some of their employees and other. It really worried me.

But then our star AG got up there and is rocking the cross examination! I think CW is doing a terrific job. Can't wait for tomorrow.

Reading P00P00 and JayJay's body language, I'd say that Alec was testifying against their advice. As someone else said, at times they looked dumbfounded. As the cross went on, it was more like they were resolved to their client's hubris -- they were watching from afar but he had made his bed.

OMO.

 

[LaborDayRN]

When I saw a bit of footage from earlier today, BM was on the aisle end, then to his right: his girlfriend, his aunt (AM's sister), JMM, someone else, then RM at the opposite end from BM. IMO.

Side note. Isn't Busters girlfriend a practicing attorney? I guess she must be taking a leave of absense for this trial.

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

there are some very high functioning addicts out there.

not spending 50k/week on drugs- do you realize how many pills that is? To spend 50k a week on oxy he would have to be taking in excess of 100 pills a day.

 

[LavenderGooms]

I don't necessarily think this is showing sympathy for AM. I cry when I think about MM and PM and how pointless and unnecessary their deaths were. I cry when I think that PM just wanted to be loved by this nightmare of a father, and he really did not stand a chance at personal accountability being raised by him. I cry the real tears that AM doesn't in the same moments.

And we have to remember they actually saw the horrifying pictures. It would send my mind there when the victim is brought up, not necessarily how I feel about the defendant. Moo

 

[Twistinginthewind]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628909720185585665

Love love

 

[Seattle1]

I was referring to seeing this on “NBC”. It was a journalist who was there commenting on it.

I said to myself there goes the ‘one juror’. Passing tissue or anything to a defendant should be off limits.

He is sobbing, ‘engaging’ the jury face to face for sympathy. He knows how all of this works. He’s prepped clients for decades.

I believe NBC misreported. While it appears true that two female jurors were seen weeping, the part of the tissue is incorrect.

Reporter Matt Johnson reported that AM took a tissue from the tissue holder located in front of the jurors' box when being escorted from the courtroom but not that a juror actually made contact with AM to hand him a tissue.

You can bet that the bailiff would have nipped any attempt to reach the defendant --- even with a tissue. MOO

 

[justtrish]

Another point I want to bring in. Alex is the one that is making a highlight out of the financial crimes. The state asks simple yes no questions. The state asks describe one instance that you lied to someone you were stealing from. He couldn't/wouldn't do it.. it just went round and round not because the state kept asking the same questions over and over.. Alex didn't answer the dang question. It would have been simple.. done moving on, but made a big huge deal out of every person that the state mentioned he stole from. He had to deflect, him haw, reword things, and then insinuate the state was just trying to keep going over the financials and he already admitted to it. Okay, but Alex you aren't answering the question at all and the state would have moved on if you just answer the dang questions.

Maybe this is exactly what Alex wanted.. people are worried about how much the state is harping on the financial crimes, but they really were not.. they wanted him to explain how he manipualted people into getting what he wanted and he wouldn't answer the question but just said I admit I stole.. blah blah.. okay that was NOT the question. So here we are.. the state is not the problem here it is Alex and his inability to just respond to what is asked.

The state did show some key things.. so far and I hope people aren't charmed and manipulated by Alex into thinking otherwise.

 

[Seattle1]

All of AM's manipulations and lies take advantage of other's instincts to be kind and to feel compassion without him showing any himself. He knows we want to believe people can't be this evil, and he is a world-class predator because of it.

^^rsbm

Within hours of the murders, the suspected killer was sitting in SLED's vehicle being interviewed and two individuals in the back seat reached out to touch AM's back and shoulder when he started crying/breaking down. I agree -- this is human instinct from normal individuals. MOO

 

[Marysmith]

not spending 50k/week on drugs- do you realize how many pills that is? To spend 50k a week on oxy he would have to be taking in excess of 100 pills a day.

I don’t buy that either. As a nurse who has worked with many drug addicts.

 

[Mystic]

It makes even less sense when you consider the fact that he carried around a badge which AM admitted was done (at least in part) to get special treatment from LE. AM himself acknowledged that the badge gave him an advantage with, in his words, "other law enforcement" (insinuating he is also part of LE). The badge was effectively his "get out of jail free" card which he clearly understood how to use effectively (i.e., putting it on the dash if he got pulled over and having it hanging out of his pocket to get access to the hospital rooms of the boat crash victims) so it makes no sense why all of the sudden he was afraid of LE after the murders.

Exactly. In the Netflix doc, M.Beach mom said how they were not allowed thru closer to the crash site but AM was. None of the parents were. So I wonder if he used that badge there as well. He definitely was not afraid imo.