Shannan Gilbert Found, death declared an accident. What do you think?

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

Thats something new. I have never read a report about the baby being dismembered. Can you please send me a MSM link to that for my boards?

You;ll have to give me a day or two - i believe it was on a blog talk radio show in which the private investigator (dottie laster) interviewed Dr. Scott Bonn who is a "specialist" on serial killers.

The radio show is called "trafficked" and it is on the Here (or Hear) Women talk network.

If there is a way to put the interview here...on this...format...am i legally allowed to do that? Let me know and i will ....post...the interview...here.

Dottie Laster was one of the private investigators and she is literally discussing the case on this radio show. Either she said - or He Said (and I'm guessing he's on the case) because he is discussing all the things on the case....... that the baby was dismembered.

Can WS owners? or other sleuths let me know if i am allowed to post a blog talk radio interview? If so - i will do

 

[nugzter]

You;ll have to give me a day or two - i believe it was on a blog talk radio show in which the private investigator (dottie laster) interviewed Dr. Scott Bonn who is a "specialist" on serial killers.

The radio show is called "trafficked" and it is on the Here (or Hear) Women talk network.

If there is a way to put the interview here...on this...format...am i legally allowed to do that? Let me know and i will ....post...the interview...here.

Dottie Laster was one of the private investigators and she is literally discussing the case on this radio show. Either she said - or He Said (and I'm guessing he's on the case) because he is discussing all the things on the case....... that the baby was dismembered.

Can WS owners? or other sleuths let me know if i am allowed to post a blog talk radio interview? If so - i will do

rocker:

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

If this is not allowed - please - modsnip it..

this is an interview from feb. 15, 2012
of a Dr. Laurie Roth interviewing two investigators of the Long Island Serial Killer Case.

Dottie Lasiter and Dr. Scott Bonn.

http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour2Feb1512.mp3

the following is a link to Dr. Scott Bonn's - web site and his definition of a serial killer and more information on the Long Island Serial
Killings

http://www.docbonn.com/serial-killer-expert.html

I have listened to this AGAIN before posting here - and either Ms. Lasiter or Dr. Bonn (and i believe its the dr.) says that the baby was dismembered. It is NOT in THIS interview - and so i'll have to listen to other interviews....of the two of them....but I believe HE says it.

I am guessing since it is a blog talk radio show - over the internet - that is the same as Main Street Media??? So I am guessing that it is ok to post this interview.:angel::angel::angel::angel::angel:

 

[dc20015]

Originally Posted by MrsPC
My newest opinion on the case after thinking all night about it....

When police finally got serious about looking for Barthelemy, her boyfriend stated that Barthelemy & another girl used to go to Long Island all the time. He described the john's home to police & at that time they told him they were already aware of the john. This was in 2010.

And per a police association report, when Malia actually went looking along Ocean parkway with his dog he was searching for Barthelemy - not Gilbert. But when bodies were found (including Barthelemey's) they descended on Brewer's home & impounded his vehicle.

@Mrs. PC -- Am i correct in believing that JB "hired" Barthelemy and another girl to go to LI? (oak beach?) location? and when sleuthers were saying that the police knew of the johns house - they knew of JB?

i have to say - if you answer yes - that literally takes my breath away.

I always thought JB was only involved in....all this.....with regards to Shannan and the ONE party - but if JB gets ...connected to Barthelemy (which was AFTER shannan went missing) this is ......jaw dropping information. Shocking....I guess... I have really been in the dark.

There is no evidence to support any of the OB men being the person she would see on LI. There are hundreds of thousands of men, say 40+ on LI if her bf was even telling the truth.

 

[SoSueMe]

Yes, it's perfectly fine to post a link to an interview. What we don't want to do is post an article or interview in its entirety. In other words, we give credit to the author and the site hosting the information.

Thanks!

 

[Reannan]

It is going to be interesting to see if they determine (and release) the COD of the new body that was found in Manorville before we find out what they have to say about SG's cause of death. I am waiting..... :cat:

 

[scandi]

Hi, I wish these posts could all be moved to a proper thread about the body found last Fri in Manorville. These posts will get lost here.

That body may be found not to be LISK related so it might be too soon for the subject to have it's own thread. But possibly they could be moved to the Manorville thread by a MOD. I thought they were all valuable posts for sleuthing.

 

[bessie]

I re-titled the Manorville Bodies thread to reflect the latest remains. Let's use that thread to discuss the new finding. I'll move some posts over there.

ETA: Posts regarding the newest remains have been moved to this thread:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135628"]Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/12 - - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[scandi]

I re-titled the Manorville Bodies thread to reflect the latest remains. Let's use that thread to discuss the new finding. I'll move some posts over there.

ETA: Posts regarding the newest remains have been moved to this thread:

Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/12 - - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Thanks Bessie ;}

 

[MrsPC]

was just reading about another case - that of Nicholle Coppler - who disappeared in 1999...how cadaver dogs had been taken thru the home of the man suspected in her case, but she was never found...and how now, the suspect's home was demolished & her bones were found in a crawl space.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...l-nicholle-coppler-found-in-ohio-rapists-home

makes you wonder if Gilbert's remains actually could have been in one of the Oak Beach homes without being detected by the cadaver dogs...

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

was just reading about another case - that of Nicholle Coppler - who disappeared in 1999...how cadaver dogs had been taken thru the home of the man suspected in her case, but she was never found...and how now, the suspect's home was demolished & her bones were found in a crawl space.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...l-nicholle-coppler-found-in-ohio-rapists-home

makes you wonder if Gilbert's remains actually could have been in one of the Oak Beach homes without being detected by the cadaver dogs...

@Mrs. PC
i remember lynn barthelemy's lawyer stating that a woman turned in her ex husband - as the lisk - saying that he had a basement that was enclosed - or encased and it was like a torture chamber.

do you remember which show it was? 48 hours? or the A&E documentary?

and the lawyer kept saying the police were strongly looking at this man as the POI? Lisk?

I used to think pac drove off with her in his car...but what was his incentive? to BRING HER BACK????? and put her in the water marsh?

no - i think she was hidden.....taken against her will -
only - who's house? what other person? family? secrets? are still in oak beach?

everyone was pointing their fingers that she went "that-a-way"
brewer said she ran off "that-a-way"
gc pointed she ran off "that-a-way"
pac said he drove off searching for her "that-a-way"
b. brennan said she was going off to the beach "that-a-way"
hackett's (wife?) or hackett himself said he saw her in the yard going "that-a-way"

gee - sg sure was going off in a dozen or so different directions at once, huh? maybe she wasnt really going off anywhere...she was kidnapped. how did the 911 call END?????? that was her LIFELINE - she would NEVER hang up willingly if she felt her life was threatened.

 

[the quiet girl]

I remember that about the ex hubby thing. I also remember hearing about the poster on the old LISK.com site saying the same thing and ppl wondering if it is the same person. I wish we would get an update on that.

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

I remember that about the ex hubby thing. I also remember hearing about the poster on the old LISK.com site saying the same thing and ppl wondering if it is the same person. I wish we would get an update on that.

Hi Quiet girl

was the ex hubby and wife residents of oak beach?
or just a town nearby????

i dont recall the lawyer ever saying.

i didn't follow lisk site - the few times i went there - it was toooooooo crazy.

 

[dc20015]

@Mrs. PC
i remember lynn barthelemy's lawyer stating that a woman turned in her ex husband - as the lisk - saying that he had a basement that was enclosed - or encased and it was like a torture chamber.

do you remember which show it was? 48 hours? or the A&E documentary?

and the lawyer kept saying the police were strongly looking at this man as the POI? Lisk?

I used to think pac drove off with her in his car...but what was his incentive? to BRING HER BACK????? and put her in the water marsh?

no - i think she was hidden.....taken against her will -
only - who's house? what other person? family? secrets? are still in oak beach?

everyone was pointing their fingers that she went "that-a-way"
brewer said she ran off "that-a-way"
gc pointed she ran off "that-a-way"
pac said he drove off searching for her "that-a-way"
b. brennan said she was going off to the beach "that-a-way"
hackett's (wife?) or hackett himself said he saw her in the yard going "that-a-way"

gee - sg sure was going off in a dozen or so different directions at once, huh? maybe she wasnt really going off anywhere...she was kidnapped. how did the 911 call END?????? that was her LIFELINE - she would NEVER hang up willingly if she felt her life was threatened.

I can't remember which show it was, but it was one of the 2 main docs and it was simply said that the fellow had an "elaborate" basement and was part of the tech world. There was no mention of it being like a torture chamber or having devices or enclosures or any actual features of the basement listed. It was also not said who this person was or where they lived.

 

[the quiet girl]

I do not think that was even mentioned as far as the lawyer talking, the rest idk I just listened to the talk never read the posts.

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

to dc20015, quiet girl and Mrs. PC

thank you.

 

[Dwntwnslim]

I can't remember which show it was, but it was one of the 2 main docs and it was simply said that the fellow had an "elaborate" basement and was part of the tech world. There was no mention of it being like a torture chamber or having devices or enclosures or any actual features of the basement listed. It was also not said who this person was or where they lived.

It was the A&E show at the very end (@ about 1:24 mark) where the Barthelemy family attorney discusses the tip he received from an ex-wife. To paraphrase the info fr/ the tip, the ex-husband is in the tech field, has an elaborate basement and was "mysteriously absent" during the times the Gilgo 4 disappeared.

I hadn't been able to watch the show 'til now (no cable) so, that info piqued my interest as I had theorized in a previous post that the perp *Might* have a special room and that being in IT/Comp./Tech field could give him an excuse for having one. Here is a link to that post:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7481650&postcount=158"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - NY-LI 10 bodies found on Beach-Poss. SrlKlr-12/10-4 id'd; more found 3/11 #13[/ame]

 

[MrsPC]

I posted that it was in the A&E show but for some odd reason the mods deleted my post.

???

 

[scandi]

I read that the examiner had contacted Mari and told her she needed more time to look at the bones and such.
It was posted to Mari's FB page. Hopefully this delay is because they have found something, or are onto a lead of some sort. That would be great!
Eerily, right before LISK was shut down, several posters including FY kept repeatedly saying that something big is going to happen in March/April. I know I know, hear say, and normally I wouldn't pay a second thought to a statement like that, but FY has made statements before about things such as were to find Shannans body, and where to find her stuff, that of which BOTH things he called completely correct. THAT is kind of chilling, and makes me wonder what it is that FY knows, that he is not sharing yet...

:banghead::waitasec:

Hi Lilmiss, That was chilling as is any info that comes out before being in the MSM and then ends up being true. I say that in a positive sense, as FY's having been so close to OB and the case, I find myself wishing he would come back and talk to us some more. I have some good questions for him. lol I hope LE hasn't told him to stop talking about the case. Could be, eh?

I also wanted to ask you if you think LE knows who Shannan's killer is - also who the SK is? I have read several posts where people believe LE knows and the case isn't where it needs to be to release that info yet and make an arrest. Thanks

 

[scandi]

I posted that it was in the A&E show but for some odd reason the mods deleted my post.

???

Gosh, it would have to be a slip of the finger, right? :floorlaugh: Your posts are always so thought provoking. MOO