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Bernina said:
Some Mormons are painfully forgiving or just "out there".
My mom was like that. When my first ex was in Perryville (1982 +) she was accepting collect calls, writing and visiting him...............without my knowledge. The whole thing was pretty twisted. But then she was manipulative enough to convince my daughter, at ages 3 and 8, to announce that I was going to hell.
And the thing is, she acted so pious and humble. If she hadn't been Mormon, my sibs and I all agree she would have been a raging alcoholic. Church was EVERYTHING to her. She had "visions".:scared:I don't know how many hundreds of Journals she has now, but they're all being given to the Church when she dies.

My lil' bro talks about writing a book about our lives one of the days. It'll be pretty trippy.
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WOW I'd love to read it! JMO
 
Bernina said:
Some Mormons are painfully forgiving or just "out there".
My mom was like that. When my first ex was in Perryville (1982 +) she was accepting collect calls, writing and visiting him...............without my knowledge. The whole thing was pretty twisted. But then she was manipulative enough to convince my daughter, at ages 3 and 8, to announce that I was going to hell.
And the thing is, she acted so pious and humble. If she hadn't been Mormon, my sibs and I all agree she would have been a raging alcoholic. Church was EVERYTHING to her. She had "visions".:scared:I don't know how many hundreds of Journals she has now, but they're all being given to the Church when she dies.

My lil' bro talks about writing a book about our lives one of the days. It'll be pretty trippy.
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WOW I'd love to read it! JMO
 
Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 5h5 hours ago
Correction #JodiArias juror3 was arrested 11/28 for issuing a bad check, not DWI.

(just for the record at the Sidebar- I enjoy Jeff's tweets and Ytubes, so that's why I'm posting this, as I'm done with juror #3- she can't help the trial anymore, IMO- she can
only hurt it by talking too much because Nurmi and Co. are trolling the internet for anything that they can get their hands on to help the defense, IMO)
 
Bernina said:
Some Mormons are painfully forgiving or just "out there".
My mom was like that. When my first ex was in Perryville (1982 +) she was accepting collect calls, writing and visiting him...............without my knowledge. The whole thing was pretty twisted. But then she was manipulative enough to convince my daughter, at ages 3 and 8, to announce that I was going to hell.
And the thing is, she acted so pious and humble. If she hadn't been Mormon, my sibs and I all agree she would have been a raging alcoholic. Church was EVERYTHING to her. She had "visions".:scared:I don't know how many hundreds of Journals she has now, but they're all being given to the Church when she dies.

My lil' bro talks about writing a book about our lives one of the days. It'll be pretty trippy.
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So sorry to hear you had a rough go years ago. I do have a question about journals if you happen to know the answer.

Was Travis "journals" that we kept hearing about in the trial a result of instructions from the Mormon faith that the members should write these types of journals?

I had always assumed that Travis just wrote them of his own desire and didnt realize it may have been a common thing that Mormons do.

If I remember right, Jodi stole Travis journals. My goodness. No wonder he was mad at her. He had so many reasons to be extremely upset with her.

If so, then Jodi should have also had a set of Journals. I do seem to recall during the first trial there were some journal entries of hers that happened to have whole days missing that were signficant days. Wonder if her house and her relatives houses were ever searched for all her journals. I am sure she went through great efforts to keep her journals hidden. Not sure if LE ever got ahold of all that she had written about in hers.

Maybe even Travis journals are still retrievable somewhere that she knows about. Like a friends place or someones storage shed. I keep thinking she has a treasure trove of evidence somewhere that LE never found and is still retrievable. Imagine if we coudl find Travis journals at *advertiser censored* house who is friends of Jodi. Maybe even the .25 gun is still available although i do think its in desert between Travis house and Hoover dam.

You cant burn a gun so that gun is still retrievable but hard to find. Either buried in sand or thrown off the dam into the water. I think.
 
Great pictures, Bernina. Zuri is growing fast. Does your beautiful dog know she is not a horse?
 
Hatfield said:
So sorry to hear you had a rough go years ago. I do have a question about journals if you happen to know the answer.

Was Travis "journals" that we kept hearing about in the trial a result of instructions from the Mormon faith that the members should write these types of journals?

I had always assumed that Travis just wrote them of his own desire and didnt realize it may have been a common thing that Mormons do.

If I remember right, Jodi stole Travis journals. My goodness. No wonder he was mad at her. He had so many reasons to be extremely upset with her.

If so, then Jodi should have also had a set of Journals. I do seem to recall during the first trial there were some journal entries of hers that happened to have whole days missing that were signficant days. Wonder if her house and her relatives houses were ever searched for all her journals. I am sure she went through great efforts to keep her journals hidden. Not sure if LE ever got ahold of all that she had written about in hers.

Maybe even Travis journals are still retrievable somewhere that she knows about. Like a friends place or someones storage shed. I keep thinking she has a treasure trove of evidence somewhere that LE never found and is still retrievable. Imagine if we coudl find Travis journals at *advertiser censored* house who is friends of Jodi. Maybe even the .25 gun is still available although i do think its in desert between Travis house and Hoover dam.

You cant burn a gun so that gun is still retrievable but hard to find. Either buried in sand or thrown off the dam into the water. I think.
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About "Journals":

This is a duty and a responsibility. ... Those who keep a book of remembrance are more likely to keep the Lord in remembrance in their daily lives. Journals are a way of counting our blessings and of leaving an inventory of these blessings for our posterity.” (Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference. April 1978)
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More at: http://www.deseretnews.com/top/1326...eaders-about-the-importance-of-keeping-a.html

The biggest problem with Journals is one's own perspective when recounting events, and then taking the time to go back and correct anything that was inaccurate.

It comes down to a book about someone's OPINION, and in many cases, JUDGEMENT.

When I was 23, my dad got into my mom's journals, and found some pretty ridiculous things written about me.......which he decided to show me. "Ridiculous" is putting it pretty tame. I was married and my daughter was 3 at that point........

Mom claimed I was a lesbian when I was 17 and was having a relationship with my friend, Lalauni Lorka.

Ok......here's the skinny:

1. Lalauni was a he/she.
2. Lalauni wasn't even his/her "legal/birth" name, it was Joseph
3. Lalauni and I had a blast shopping (she had impecable taste)/bar hopping (girl's night)/hanging together and being just really great buds. Nothing remotely physical between us
4. She/he was an in-call/out-call "escort", how about them apples.......

When my mom found out the "truth", she never corrected her previous delusions.

MY BIG PROBLEM: If my daughter read those journals when she got older, WTH would she think, and why would I have to be put in the position in the first place?!? There was quite a bit more written, but it's not worth going into.
With all the BS in my life at that point, my mom and I came to blows, seriously. Not proud of it......at.......all.

My grandfather also had his memoirs written by a cousin and then privately published....another fiasco of grandpa's perception vs. the truth.

Journals written in the wrong mind set can be very destructive to those around you.
 
Hatfield said:
So cute. :) He/She doggy is saying....."Hey, I wan't some of that" :)
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Both of the wolfdogs will eat anything that the other critters eat, pellets, chicken feed, hay, you name it! Poquita wants what Zuri's having obviously! :floorlaugh:
 
janx said:
Be still my heart! :loveyou:
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Hiya janx, I just wanted to tell you that everytime I play Slingo Mahjong these days I think of you. Why, you ask? because the first time I played it, I saw this game piece on the board:

janx.jpg

and at first I thought it said 'janx' so now everytime I see it I think of you. lol
 
geevee said:
Hiya janx, I just wanted to tell you that everytime I play Slingo Mahjong these days I think of you. Why, you ask? because the first time I played it, I saw this game piece on the board:

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and at first I thought it said 'janx' so now everytime I see it I think of you. lol
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What *does* it say? This is quite a coincidence in terms of things Asian. And thank you.
 
YESorNO said:
Respectfully snipped by me

Jodi Arias: The Nurminator!

"... how do you defend someone when all the evidence the prosecutor has, points to their guilt. His response—obfuscation—or as he more eloquently put it—blind them with bulls***"...

People who think Nurmi and Willmott believe Jodi 100%, are fooling themselves. No one knows Jodi better than her attorneys...

In the end Nurmi is finally doing his job—confuse the jury, discredit the witnesses and try to keep delaying the trial as much as possible until the last juror falls off from attrition...."


http://.blogspot.com/2014/12/jodi-arias-nurminator.html
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Thanks for posting this Y/N it's a really good read!
Seriously though, where do you find all this stuff!!! Your researching abilities are so lovely and much appreciated! :loveyou:
 
This is very far off topic, but I've been thinking of a book by Ron Hansen called The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. Hansen is a master author in the literary realm. A movie was made of this book. The main emphasis was how Jesse James had fans--reenactments were made of his killings, and people paid money to see them. I don't know how many of you read literary fiction (or watch movies based on it), but this one keeps coming back to me. Killers have always had fans. How horrible.
 
YESorNO said:
Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 5h5 hours ago
Correction #JodiArias juror3 was arrested 11/28 for issuing a bad check, not DWI.

(just for the record at the Sidebar- I enjoy Jeff's tweets and Ytubes, so that's why I'm posting this, as I'm done with juror #3- she can't help the trial anymore, IMO- she can
only hurt it by talking too much because Nurmi and Co. are trolling the internet for anything that they can get their hands on to help the defense, IMO)
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I personally feel that if she had as much integrity as she claims to have, she wouldn't speak until after the trial was over. Giving the DT any inkling of which way the jury could possibly be leaning will only help them with what BS to feed them. :facepalm:
 
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