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Trapped With Ms. Arias
Chapter 35
This is Your Brain on Jodi
L talks about "this is your brain on drugs" because he called the murderer "Jodi"
"take the egg but do not crack it, smash the egg into the pan, shell and all....find some fecal matter, throw it into the pan, add a chopped up dead rat and scramble the whole mess up. Once completely cooked this concoction would approximate the effect Ms. Arias would have on my brain"
L states- every time he left jail after meetings, he was "exhausted...brain was mush"- phone conversations too
L talks about a theory he heard a "pundit offer this theory about" the murderer on TV program (doesn't remember who)- L thinks theory is "highly insightful"
-the theory: murderer "had abilities like those of a cult leader...she possessed a unique ability to convince people that she was telling the truth, without actual proof, simply because she was the person saying it" (pg. 204)
L talks about Donovan being one of the cult members and others: a reporter tried to see the murderer while in jail to interview her, but couldn't- he did speak to several women who were her "pod mates" who "almost universally" supported the murderer- holding up signs "Free Jodi"....a few asserted her innocence"
"That power can still be seen today by looking at a web page that asserts the innocence of Ms. Arias. Yes, even several months after the trial Ms. Arias' followers are still drinking the Kool-aid. She is that good" (pg. 205)
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Chapter 36
9 Out of 10 Days
L talks about the "sentiment behind"...... "I did not like Ms. Arias 9 out of 10 days" comment in his closing of guilt phase of trial
"...as talking about this comment was not really optional talking about the sentiment behind this comment would provide you with enough understanding of what I learned about Ms. Arias as I prepared for trial...I am not going to deal with why I made this comment during my closing argument in this book." at this time (pg. 206)
Is it true? "Yes"
L states that many people believe that because he was the murderer's atty, that he " believes her story" and "support her actions and that I like her as a person...none of these things are true"- he did not ask to be her atty and was appointed and forced to remain as her atty when he wanted to leave
"...I did not believe her claims of self-defense, I did not support what she did on June 4, 2008....I did not like Ms. Arias"
L states, that as an atty, he doesn't try to be friends, have feelings- they are just clients- in capt'l cases, they have murdered someone- "I tend to exclude killers from my peer group", so he doesn't "like" his clients "in the sense that the word is most commonly used", but he does "like" some of their "likable qualities"- or "I feel highly sympathetic for their situation and/or personal histories, so in that regard it can be said that I do 'like' some clients"
"I did not and do not like Ms. Arias" (pg. 207)
L claims, because of confidentiality, he can explain some things, but not all "tip of the iceberg"
Some reasons:
-she was happy to ruin his career "by forcing me into a position where I would have to help her make these assertations against" TA- (not how he wanted to defend case)- they would never had come to trial- what he wanted/ damage done to him, didn't matter to her
"..she was smart enough to know that I would have to go with her defense if I could not prove her wrong" (she PP Legal lawyers to answer her questions)when he was trying to leave "she wanted me to wanted to be nice...act like we were friends...She wanted me to drink the Kool-Aid...to join the 'Cult of Jodi' "
L started to "dislike" the murderer after he was forced to stay on as her atty Spring, 2011- after that "she knew that I could not get away and decided that she could treat me any way she wanted because of this reality"
-she threatened his business, wanted him at her beck and call.."I was the attorney and she was the boss"
"...it is more accurate to say that I disliked and /or despised her 9 out of 10 days"
"what about the tenth day?....the tenth day simply accounted for the days I did not have to deal with her or think about her case...if I did not have days like those where I didn't think of Ms. Arias, trust me, it would have been 10 out of 10" (pg. 209)
L states that he was "dealing with a very disturbed woman"
End of Section 6 (pg. 210)
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Next:
Section 7
Rooster shake-Up
Chapter 37
Others Want Out, Some Make It, Some Do Not and Alyce Comes to Wonderland
Chapter 38
I Lose My Team
Chapter 39
Building a new Team
End of Section 7 (pg. 225)
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Chapter 35
This is Your Brain on Jodi
L talks about "this is your brain on drugs" because he called the murderer "Jodi"
"take the egg but do not crack it, smash the egg into the pan, shell and all....find some fecal matter, throw it into the pan, add a chopped up dead rat and scramble the whole mess up. Once completely cooked this concoction would approximate the effect Ms. Arias would have on my brain"
L states- every time he left jail after meetings, he was "exhausted...brain was mush"- phone conversations too
L talks about a theory he heard a "pundit offer this theory about" the murderer on TV program (doesn't remember who)- L thinks theory is "highly insightful"
-the theory: murderer "had abilities like those of a cult leader...she possessed a unique ability to convince people that she was telling the truth, without actual proof, simply because she was the person saying it" (pg. 204)
L talks about Donovan being one of the cult members and others: a reporter tried to see the murderer while in jail to interview her, but couldn't- he did speak to several women who were her "pod mates" who "almost universally" supported the murderer- holding up signs "Free Jodi"....a few asserted her innocence"
"That power can still be seen today by looking at a web page that asserts the innocence of Ms. Arias. Yes, even several months after the trial Ms. Arias' followers are still drinking the Kool-aid. She is that good" (pg. 205)
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Chapter 36
9 Out of 10 Days
L talks about the "sentiment behind"...... "I did not like Ms. Arias 9 out of 10 days" comment in his closing of guilt phase of trial
"...as talking about this comment was not really optional talking about the sentiment behind this comment would provide you with enough understanding of what I learned about Ms. Arias as I prepared for trial...I am not going to deal with why I made this comment during my closing argument in this book." at this time (pg. 206)
Is it true? "Yes"
L states that many people believe that because he was the murderer's atty, that he " believes her story" and "support her actions and that I like her as a person...none of these things are true"- he did not ask to be her atty and was appointed and forced to remain as her atty when he wanted to leave
"...I did not believe her claims of self-defense, I did not support what she did on June 4, 2008....I did not like Ms. Arias"
L states, that as an atty, he doesn't try to be friends, have feelings- they are just clients- in capt'l cases, they have murdered someone- "I tend to exclude killers from my peer group", so he doesn't "like" his clients "in the sense that the word is most commonly used", but he does "like" some of their "likable qualities"- or "I feel highly sympathetic for their situation and/or personal histories, so in that regard it can be said that I do 'like' some clients"
"I did not and do not like Ms. Arias" (pg. 207)
L claims, because of confidentiality, he can explain some things, but not all "tip of the iceberg"
Some reasons:
-she was happy to ruin his career "by forcing me into a position where I would have to help her make these assertations against" TA- (not how he wanted to defend case)- they would never had come to trial- what he wanted/ damage done to him, didn't matter to her
"..she was smart enough to know that I would have to go with her defense if I could not prove her wrong" (she PP Legal lawyers to answer her questions)when he was trying to leave "she wanted me to wanted to be nice...act like we were friends...She wanted me to drink the Kool-Aid...to join the 'Cult of Jodi' "
L started to "dislike" the murderer after he was forced to stay on as her atty Spring, 2011- after that "she knew that I could not get away and decided that she could treat me any way she wanted because of this reality"
-she threatened his business, wanted him at her beck and call.."I was the attorney and she was the boss"
"...it is more accurate to say that I disliked and /or despised her 9 out of 10 days"
"what about the tenth day?....the tenth day simply accounted for the days I did not have to deal with her or think about her case...if I did not have days like those where I didn't think of Ms. Arias, trust me, it would have been 10 out of 10" (pg. 209)
L states that he was "dealing with a very disturbed woman"
End of Section 6 (pg. 210)
------------------------------------
Next:
Section 7
Rooster shake-Up
Chapter 37
Others Want Out, Some Make It, Some Do Not and Alyce Comes to Wonderland
Chapter 38
I Lose My Team
Chapter 39
Building a new Team
End of Section 7 (pg. 225)
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