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Now that I think about it, I believe the only source for a fight specifically on the night of June 15 was Richard (Jesse's father) saying that Jesse said that Lee said that Cindy said that she had literally put her hands around Casey's throat in a fight that night.

So triple hearsay. ;)

On the other hand, I could see Cindy blurting this out to Lee in an "its-all-my-fault" moment of self-pity, but hiding it from the police because it was none of their business (and would just make them think Casey killed Caylee.)[/QUOTE]

Yes, yes. If no one mentions the fight at all it could be swept under the carpet and no one needs to know the real story.

Nanny kidnapping.
Leaving a 2 1/2 year old on the steps of the nanny's apt. building between the hours of 9am to 1pm (cuz that's what all good mothers do).
Then settling on Caylee killed herself by opening a sliding glass door (that no one thought to child proof), then climbing the ladder that CA left up at the pool or not.

Yeah, it makes me sick. All of it.

Yep, I'm surprised they didn't produce a photo of Caylee playing with a roll of duct tape...
 
Where did Pam say this? FYI there is no phone call on the 15th 16th (or the 17th or 18th) from Cindy to Shirley or vice versa on either the house phone or Cindy's cell.

OK, I Googled around a bit and found her "exclusive interview" :rolleyes: but as I mentioned above the phone records contradict her story. Also, according to my notes the check was stolen from the grandfather's account on April 10, 2008 to pay a phone bill that was due April 8, 2008, Shirley found out about it "end of April, beginning of May," and the charge was reversed sometime before May 6.

I hardly think Shirley waited until June 15 to mention the stolen check to Cindy.
 
I know we can't link to other forums, and I can't paste it here, but if you google "Dear Jose Baez" and "Laggy" you will find a post that is an open letter to Jose.
Excellent little letter that gets right to the point.

(mods - If this is against TOS, feel free to delete this post... SIA)
 
I had never seen the movie Chicago before but the posts of songs from the movie got me interested. It came on tv yesterday morning so I recorded it and watched it today. Good movie and the main woman really does appear to be like Casey. Wanting to be somebody, wanting the media to fawn over her, etc. Thanks to the posters that got me interested in it.
 
Pam Plesea said that Shirley told her how Lee was there, Cindy confronted Casey on June 15 and they ended up in an altercation and Cindy choked Casey, Lee pulled them apart, and Cindy called Shirley to tell her that Casey would never steal again and that she had choked her. Pam said Cindy called Shirley the morning of the 16th and told her that Casey had taken Caylee and the car before anyone woke up and was gone.

I know Casey was on the computer that morning though. :banghead:

You know I would trust cell phone, land line and computer records before I would believe someone's memory of what happened. If Pam and Shirley said that I believe they were confused....
 
I know we can't link to other forums, and I can't paste it here, but if you google "Dear Jose Baez" and "Laggy" you will find a post that is an open letter to Jose.
Excellent little letter that gets right to the point.

(mods - If this is against TOS, feel free to delete this post... SIA)

LOL LOL LOL. Not at Laggy's letter...that is a thing of beauty! But some of the other posts...and with that said, now I can't get the number 2 out of my head!
 
I had never seen the movie Chicago before but the posts of songs from the movie got me interested. It came on tv yesterday morning so I recorded it and watched it today. Good movie and the main woman really does appear to be like Casey. Wanting to be somebody, wanting the media to fawn over her, etc. Thanks to the posters that got me interested in it.

The biggest difference I can see is that the verdict and recent book sales figures strongly suggest that only the Pinellas 12, Geraldo, and a few desperados who either fancy FCA or have some personal axe to grind against the police and/or the prosecution (JA in particular it seems) have ever succumbed to 'the old Baezzle-Dazzle' while the rest of the world remains obstinately and irreversibly undazzled.
 
You know I would trust cell phone, land line and computer records before I would believe someone's memory of what happened. If Pam and Shirley said that I believe they were confused....

I totally agree with you logicalgirl, especially the memory of those who are closely involved. So much dysfunction in that family very easy for anyone to get confused!
 
You know I would trust cell phone, land line and computer records before I would believe someone's memory of what happened. If Pam and Shirley said that I believe they were confused....

I agree - I would trust the records more. That said, what DCstew is speaking of, rings a bell for me and I am thinking something along those lines was said in the emails released???

FWIW. I would dig, but am just to tired tonight.
 
I agree - I would trust the records more. That said, what DCstew is speaking of, rings a bell for me and I am thinking something along those lines was said in the emails released???

FWIW. I would dig, but am just to tired tonight.

I was thinking the emails as well. Unfortunately the background at candy rose gives me a massive headache whenever I try to read for to long over there. It rings a bell for me as well.
 
Holy Moly, have you all been to this site. It's great!!! I don't know if I'm allowed to put in her name, so here's some clues. First name, the same as the one female in the murder trial of Caylee Marie who was there for only Caylee. Last name, same as that silly young girl who's Grandfather started up Hilton Hotels.
 
Holy Moly, have you all been to this site. It's great!!! I don't know if I'm allowed to put in her name, so here's some clues. First name, the same as the one female in the murder trial of Caylee Marie who was there for only Caylee. Last name, same as that silly young girl who's Grandfather started up Hilton Hotels.

Yes grammieto5, It's a great site! I saw today a certain poster on amazon won't go there, so you know it's about the truth.
 
I feel like I am at trivia night. The only woman for Caylee was Linda? Is that right?
 
I agree - I would trust the records more. That said, what DCstew is speaking of, rings a bell for me and I am thinking something along those lines was said in the emails released???

FWIW. I would dig, but am just to tired tonight.

It's okay _Junkie - AZLawyer already has...:rocker:
 
OMG I just saw the photo..I knew it but seeing that photo just ....well no words!
 
I'm soooo not good at reading between the lines. What photo? Morning. :coffee:
 
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