Sniff tests, hair decomp, really so conclusive? Fence sitters thread

[Trapshooter]

Straitfan,
I don't know who will be babysitting her! She doesn't have the Padilla's team this time protecting her! Can you imagine the mess of protesters that will show up now? Lord have mercy!

 

[seagull65]

I too have wondered about the use of chloroform. I am thinking that whatever they used to clean the trunk mixed and made chloroform. JMO

Very possible. Supposedly urine and chlorine can also create it. Like if someone threw a swim diaper in the trunk when leaving theapartment pool. But then you have to add in who had access to the laptop and was looking up the chloroform info, what kind of info exactly were they researching, when were they looking it up, etc.

Chloroform is also used in forensics supposedly, so is it possible this is how some got there (I'm not implying planting evidence, I mean just during routine forensics/research on the evidence.)

 

[RR0004]

They can't investigate the ENTIRE population of the US! They go way the leads take them!!! To bad Casey won't ever have $$$$ to reimburse the State of FL for their tax dollars.

The countless hours LE has put into this case in hoping to find this child is simply amazing. G-d bless them.

 

[MCDRAW]

I think as other posters have already well covered, LE is holding alot back as they well should.

Casey may get out on bond, but IMO if I were her? I'd feel safer in jail!

Lets not forget the cell phone picture of Caylee taken by the hairdresser with the bruises.

IMOO, from what we know, Casey had a lot of anger...there was a big fight the last day Caylee was seen...liars are huge cowards. Cowards take their anger and frustration on people they CAN hurt and get away with it...little helpless people that they are probably deathly jealous of.

Whatever defense leanings I want to dredge up...I just remember we are dealing with a shameless liar who would rob her family and friends blind...thats my starting point.

I have a brother who is a drug addict. He lies and he has robbed us blind but he would never harm a child. He lies and steals to pay for his drug habit. But he has never hurt anyone but himself physically.

 

[seagull65]

To add, I'm sure they've looked at everyone's phone records. They would also have to have a reason to get a search warrant for evidence in friend's apartments...and without anyone coming forth and saying anything why would they look there?

Even though she had been living in those places and had had the child there? Even though that was her boyfriend and the only person she wanted to contact when she was arrested? I would think they'd be able to get a warrant no problem.

 

[RR0004]

I mean her parents' car that she was using while she was living at RM/JP/AH's apartment and then TL and his roommates place. Didn't I read on one of the other threads that Tony's car was at a repair place for a while? Did anyone other than Casey use her car? With or without her present. Who knows? So few facts known thus far in this case.

Sorry, I never heard Tony having use of her car. How could she go to work then?

 

[Thinaire]

Straitfan,
Someone has already posted bond for Casey.....again! She will be out mid-morning!

Thinaire...what cell phone pictures of Caylee with bruises? I missed that somewhere along the way?

Yay Trap, I found it...its in this article link down a few paragraphs...

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/7/23/casey_anthony_remains_in_jail.html

 

[Straitfan]

Ditto Steadfast, thank God she wasnt smart enough to remove DNA evidence or she may never pay for this.

 

[seagull65]

She seems to have been mostly working only for him helping with his promotions at the club at that stage, and cooking and cleaning at his apartment.

 

[Thinaire]

I have a brother who is a drug addict. He lies and he has robbed us blind but he would never harm a child. He lies and steals to pay for his drug habit. But he has never hurt anyone but himself physically.

Sorry MCDRAW...I was more thinking of the POI when I wrote that...you are right...

 

[MCDRAW]

Maybe that's why she didn't report Caylee missing. There are plenty of places around Orlando where you could put a body and no one would happen to run across it. Add the time you buy by not reporting the disappearance, time for aligators and animals to get to it. In regard to the trunk of her car, she didn't cover her tracks very well considering all the forensic evidence that has come out of it. Plus, she had possibly the worst cover story/alibi ever!

You are correct. I just think people are giving Casey a little too much credit. I just don't see her as all that smart.

 

[seagull65]

I have a brother who is a drug addict. He lies and he has robbed us blind but he would never harm a child. He lies and steals to pay for his drug habit. But he has never hurt anyone but himself physically.

God bless your brother.

 

[Trapshooter]

Yay Trap, I found it...its in this article link down a few paragraphs...

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/7/23/casey_anthony_remains_in_jail.html

Thanks so much Thinaire!
I had never read that until now! That poor sweet Caylee. I cannot and don't want to imagine what terrible fate ended her precious life.

 

[kwmred]

Very possible. Supposedly urine and chlorine can also create it. Like if someone threw a swim diaper in the trunk when leaving theapartment pool. But then you have to add in who had access to the laptop and was looking up the chloroform info, what kind of info exactly were they researching, when were they looking it up, etc.

Chloroform is also used in forensics supposedly, so is it possible this is how some got there (I'm not implying planting evidence, I mean just during routine forensics/research on the evidence.)

I think this myth was pretty much cleared up on Nancy Grace tonight. This was not a trace amount found in the car.

 

[Straitfan]

Even though she had been living in those places and had had the child there? Even though that was her boyfriend and the only person she wanted to contact when she was arrested? I would think they'd be able to get a warrant no problem.

Sure they would have gotten a search warrant if it were necessary! He only saw Caylee 2 or 3 times, WHY would he do anything, not to mention he was in NY during some of that time period which I am sure LE ck'd. Casey is the one who clearly just "wanted a man"

 

[RR0004]

Even though she had been living in those places and had had the child there? Even though that was her boyfriend and the only person she wanted to contact when she was arrested? I would think they'd be able to get a warrant no problem.

I agree on Tony's place...but Caylee hadn't been there for some time prior to her going missing. And if she was there, who better than Casey to say something. You can't expect LE to be psychic.

 

[MCDRAW]

Sorry MCDRAW...I was more thinking of the POI when I wrote that...you are right...

No offense taken.
I don't know if Casey is a drug addict but if she is they are always making up lies. I just know what my family has dealt with. And we pressed charges for way less than what Casey has been charged with. So far her family has not impressed me. With Cindy's statement about TES, I have begun to wonder who is protecting who.

 

[RR0004]

She seems to have been mostly working only for him helping with his promotions at the club at that stage, and cooking and cleaning at his apartment.

That's not what she told LE.

ETA: or Tony

 

[Tate]

I understand what you're saying...but let the family go first with that polygraph and I might jump in with additional testing. Let's rule them out first. Makes the most sense...and it's been done countless times in other cases.

I dunno, RR0004... Since Casey's a pathological liar, she might pass a polygraph. I wonder what a shrink would say about that? Are there any shrinks on the board?!

 

[seagull65]

Hi Trap,

I'd have to dig through all the old posts...but there is a legitimate source for that info...a hairdresser took cell phone pics of Caylee and turned them over to LE early on. Just too much 2+2+2+ adding up for me to see that halo over Casey's head :hand:

I definitely do remember talk of that early on on some of the threads. I don't remember ever actually seeing a picture that showed it though. So far, all the pictures I've seen just show a healthy, happy looking child. Sometimes when people are going on about, she looks nervous in the video where she's looking at her book, she looks disturbed, her speech in the video is underdeveloped for her age, her speech is too sophisticated for her age, she looks tired, she looks abused, she looks this and that, I just have to laugh because she honestly looks perfectly normal and healthy to me. She looks healthier than a lot of toddlers you see nowadays, so many are too thin nowadays. And she is always dressed fine, clean, nicely groomed hair, etc. She looks well cared for in all the pictures.