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No, it takes one to hang the jury and retry her. She ain't walkin' IMO.
I completely agree. I personally think it will either be a hung jury or Murder 1.
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No, it takes one to hang the jury and retry her. She ain't walkin' IMO.
Not sure if any of you out there saw the "HLN After Dark" show last night. The mock trial for the in-studio jury was "DID JODI ARIAS COMMIT 1st DEGREE MURDER?"
In summary 11 out of 12 jurors voted Guilty. 1 juror voted "not guilty", and as everybody knows, that's all it takes for Ms. Arias to walk...
The one juror that did not vote Guilty agreed with a premise that was created by the "dream team" of defense experts. Their assertion is that because Jodi spent 14 hours at Travis' house, even though she may have intended to murder him, this timeline shows that she had the opportunity to kill immediately, but changed her mind. Then...something happened that led to an argument, fight, his death, etc.... Based on this assertion, the defense argued that 1st Degree Murder can be taken out of consideration if there is evidence that the person changed their mind
Sadly, the HLN prosecution team had no answer for this.
I sure as hell hope the defense team in this case does not try to pull a stunt like this to confuse the jurors.
Let's please keep this in mind, and hope everyone in that courtroom does too, including Juan and the jurors - We all know that Jodi turned her phone off, used gas, cans flipped her license plate, etc. to avoid detection. What has been one of the most basic vital factors to avoiding detection when travelling "off the grid" since the inception of time??
TRAVELING UNDER THE COVER OF DARKNESS
For Jodi to arrive at Travis' house at 4:00 AM, she would have left the Pasadena, CA area at approximately 10:00 PM (shortly after nightfall). And anyone that has lived in Arizona in June knows, the sun rises by 5:00 AM. She used this small 7-8 hour window of darkness to make her murder trip to Travis' house.
If Travis was killed close to 6:00 PM on June 4th, this allowed Jodi just enough time to put his body back in the shower, clean herself up, change her clothes, collect the murder weapons, dispose the camera, try to clean the scene, etc. All of this would have taken approximately 2 hours IMO. Sunset on June 4th, 2008 in Mesa, AZ was approximately 7:34 PM. Perfect timing for Jodi's getaway.
The timing of this murder in no way shape or form should absolve Jodi of 1st degree murder charges. In fact, IMO it further goes to premeditation. I hope this hits home with the jury this weekend.
Exactly my point. Why argue shot first if the ME can not say with absolute certainty? Let's say shot first ... Premed by stealing the gun as opposed to borrowing it... she planned to shoot him ... So.. he survives the shot and B**** has to abandon the gun ...leave the area to get the knife ... she has to go PAST the GD exit sign .. and go BACK to where he was ALREADY BLEEDING to death to finish him off... Why get caught up in semantics .... ?
When it comes to AFTER the fire being shot, the question for me is:
'Was JA life threatened enough for her to then brutally stab him and slice his throat?'
Even if I felt he could move slightly, based on JA story, the next most likely 'step' was to cough in the sink. the facts appear to me he would have been in no condition to harm her, and IMO if JA really had not meant to shoot him, she would have been calling 911.
If this guy were to say yes, he could have moved around for a few minutes. JM could say 'So TA could move', 'Could he have strangled her?' Could he have stabbed her? Could he have shot her? Could he have stopped her from running away? then show a picture of JA. Whose autopsy were you referring to?
Thank you! That should be most helpful for those that believe its the same as an arrow ....
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Can anyone decipher this please? TIA!
(and what does the "LOW" signify?)
4/29/2013 LOW - List Of Witnesses/Exhibit/Evidence - Party (001) 4/30/2013
What is he going to testify to? That, Travis being shot, could still function? Causing JA to be in fear and then completely went "Phsyco"?
I can hear it now, so she is not borderline, but suffers from DV and PTSD and because of this, once she shot him, he came after her and she had no choice but to stap him and kill him 2 more times? ( tho I think he was shot last)
:doh: Of course LOW - list of witnesses, duh. Thank you!
Can JM put on another witness to rebut Geffner's bs?
Not to mention that in weeks of testimony Jodie NEVER even said anything to the effect that she was sorry, felt horrible, apologized or anything els to signify she did not mean to hurt Travis.
Now if you had done something to someone you loved that ended their life wouldn't you be repeatedly apologizing for "having" to be put in a position of no other alternative. I know I would--almost not be able to live with myself, let alone turning and smirking at the family and anybody else who's grief got in her way.:stormingmad:
Sorry all, I was being a little facetious when I meant "she would walk". However, given the highly public nature of this trial, having a hung jury or mistrial would be disastrous. Getting an impartial jury smarter than a pack of orangutans for a retrial would be a tough undertaking at this point IMO.
She has never shed one tear either. Oh she's faked that she's crying, but that's just an act. I hope the jury has noticed her faking.
Arias also could not kill Travis while any of the roommates were home, narrowing her window from 4 PM to 6-6:30 PM on 6/4/08. Vinny did not point that out on HLN last night and of course, the HLN defense team ignored the roommate factor as well.
What is he going to testify to? That, Travis being shot, could still function? Causing JA to be in fear and then completely went "Phsyco"?
I can hear it now, so she is not borderline, but suffers from DV and PTSD and because of this, once she shot him, he came after her and she had no choice but to stap him and kill him 2 more times? ( tho I think he was shot last)
Linda7, understand if you don't feel comfortable answering this question. Do you happen to live in Maryland?
None of this explains why she didn't run out of the house after she shot him--which she had the presence of mind to do in the Ninjas story. Based on the crime scene, it sure looks like Travis tried to run for his life even after multiple stab wounds. Fight or flight. Commonsense.What is he going to testify to? That, Travis being shot, could still function? Causing JA to be in fear and then completely went "Phsyco"?
I can hear it now, so she is not borderline, but suffers from DV and PTSD and because of this, once she shot him, he came after her and she had no choice but to stap him and kill him 2 more times? ( tho I think he was shot last)
THANK YOU!!!!! Do you think he'll listen? I doubt it.
Respectfully snipped by me. If you listen to Beth Kara's on Tricia's radio show this past Sunday, she speaks to the charges and what would happen if...
IIRC, in the scenario from HLN, JA would not walk, but would be guilty of the lesser charge. If not 100 % guilty of premeditated murder, it would go to 2nd degree.
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No, it takes one to hang the jury and retry her. She ain't walkin' IMO.
Not to mention, its only Jodi's account she got there at 4AM. No one actually saw her or her car in the driveway like she claimed happened. The fact her presense was not known in this alleged time frame, is more suspect then not. I hate HLN's after dark. Its purely money driven, and I think to entice fear by having this mock juries always have a few not guilties to keep people obsessed.