Suspect - Daniel Heinrich #2

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shergal said:
Well, you're just more vocal about it. :) I think many of us are still looking at various possibilities. Heinrich did molest Jared (proven by DNA) and denied that, so odds seem to be that even though he is denying having anything to do with Jacob, it's likely he was involved in that also. His tire tracks and footprints were in DR's driveway. I hope investigators are looking for more tie-ins.
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I'm sorry guys but it's time to come correct on the issue of the prints on the driveway. LE is saying they are consistent which is short of conclusive. The media and amateur investigators have twisted this to say "no, the tire tracks and footprint are conclusively matched to heinrich." LE did not go that far in the latest press conference, but others decided to. I have to hear it fom LE and we have not.
 
shergal said:
Well, you're just more vocal about it. :) I think many of us are still looking at various possibilities. Heinrich did molest Jared (proven by DNA) and denied that, so odds seem to be that even though he is denying having anything to do with Jacob, it's likely he was involved in that also. His tire tracks and footprints were in DR's driveway. I hope investigators are looking for more tie-ins.
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With his shoe prints and tire tracks there it points directly to dh. People tend to over complicate things. With a gun not hard to see that he was able to pull this off all by himself.
 
1911ss said:
With his shoe prints and tire tracks there it points directly to dh. People tend to over complicate things. With a gun not hard to see that he was able to pull this off all by himself.
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Got ya! See right here, he is telling us the prints are in fact conclusive. But he did not hear those words from the people in charge of this active case. I understand, jump at anyone at this point as long as its not DR.
 
Sasquatch321 said:
Got ya! See right here, he is telling us the prints are in fact conclusive. But he did not hear those words from the people in charge of this active case. I understand, jump at anyone at this point as long as its not DR.
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Oh dh did it all right thank God the fbi got involved. I have Zero faith in local le
 
Re Eugene Martin. He was taken in '84. How old would DH have been then?

As we read on here, we see in Stearns area alone there were tons of pervs. When Jacob was kidnapoed, I heard that there were 7000 arrested pervs in MN.

Then we have neighboring Wisconsin and then go down to Iowa. There are no shortage of pervs.

Did CB radios go very far in terms of distance? Were there secret channels?

For a perv, a lonely newspaper boy seems a great choice no matter where you live
 
human said:
Re Eugene Martin. He was taken in '84. How old would DH have been then?

As we read on here, we see in Stearns area alone there were tons of pervs. When Jacob was kidnapoed, I heard that there were 7000 arrested pervs in MN.

Then we have neighboring Wisconsin and then go down to Iowa. There are no shortage of pervs.

Did CB radios go very far in terms of distance? Were there secret channels?

For a perv, a lonely newspaper boy seems a great choice no matter where you live
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I have only read a little about Eugene Martin and the other boys from IA. I guess Johnny Gosch is the one I'm most familiar with (not much). I am just going on memory here, so forgive me for not linking, but wasn't SOMEONE (and I can't remember the name, but it was an unusual name) said to be possibly involved in Johnny Gosch's abduction seen at the Fingerhut (DJH connection) in St. Joseph's around the time that Jacob was taken? Maybe someone else will know what I am talking about. I'll do some searching when I get time later and post more info.
 
human said:
Re Eugene Martin. He was taken in '84. How old would DH have been then?

As we read on here, we see in Stearns area alone there were tons of pervs. When Jacob was kidnapoed, I heard that there were 7000 arrested pervs in MN.

Then we have neighboring Wisconsin and then go down to Iowa. There are no shortage of pervs.

Did CB radios go very far in terms of distance? Were there secret channels?

For a perv, a lonely newspaper boy seems a great choice no matter where you live
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CB was 40 channels back in the day and some had upper and lower sideband capability. Distance was relative to antenna height - and it depended on your radio too. Most people didn't run high power linear amplifiers (the most common illegal modification) because they didn't want to interfere with television transmissions and call attention to themselves to the local FCC office. Legal power was 4 watts standard and 12 watts single-sideband.

I've heard about modified CB radios transmitting high power plus "in between" the channels but that was pretty rare back then and it implies you know people who had another modified CB to receive your message. And who would he be talking with? That's what I want to know.

Car-based CB solutions could transmit decently though in the range of miles and receive even farther.

Someone mentioned ham radio - I don't see this individual as using HAM radios as you basically needed complicated licensing just to use them, the radios themselves were far more expensive than CB and they ran an overall tighter ship rules wise whereas CB radio can be like the wild west - all kinds of crazy things can happen if you listen long enough.

DJH seems more like he was kind of a strange loner and would go about his business by himself. Who did or would he talk to about this? Plus what's he going to do, transmit on CB his particular "interest"? This seems like it would stick out like a sore thumb and you would notice calls looking for that. I'm reasonably sure that given his history he was probably by himself when he picked up Jared.

However, if you look at it it's much more likely the perp had a police scanner (receive only) and was monitoring LE activities so that he could find out if he was in danger of potentially encountering LE while going about his business.
 
Simplemama said:
I have only read a little about Eugene Martin and the other boys from IA. I guess Johnny Gosch is the one I'm most familiar with (not much). I am just going on memory here, so forgive me for not linking, but wasn't SOMEONE (and I can't remember the name, but it was an unusual name) said to be possibly involved in Johnny Gosch's abduction seen at the Fingerhut (DJH connection) in St. Joseph's around the time that Jacob was taken? Maybe someone else will know what I am talking about. I'll do some searching when I get time later and post more info.
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Sam Soda?
 
Simplemama said:
Well, I don't know. Why would anyone choose that driveway? Why did the perp, single or double or triple or whatever, choose that driveway? I don't see how the number of perps makes a difference on why that driveway was chosen. It happened there. Let's say DJH is the perp and the one and only perp. Why did HE choose that driveway??

DR's parents were gone, the driveway is long, but easy to turn around in and you can go pretty fast, apparently.
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In a previous post you thought more than one perp was involved.

Anyway, how would Heinrich know that DR's parents were gone? How would he know the length and the ease of the driveway?

DR talked about the afternoon car. But why would a car go down a driveway looking for kids at the home of people who had no young children and then return that night?
 
human said:
In a previous post you thought more than one perp was involved.
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Yes, I said it had occurred to me, like a gut feeling, when I first started studying the case, and I hadn't been able to shake it. You asked why would "they" have chosen that driveway, but I don't know why ANYONE would have chosen that driveway, yet obviously someone did.

Anyway, how would Heinrich know that DR's parents were gone? How would he know the length and the ease of the driveway?

DR talked about the afternoon car. But why would a car go down a driveway looking for kids at the home of people who had no young children and then return that night?
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?? I never said I thought they were looking for kids right then and there. I actually implied that I was probably not being logical with the multiple perps theory, but kept coming back to it anyway.

If you remember, however, there were two other boys nearby who had been followed home by a car on that road earlier in the summer. And, obviously there were children at the other end of the road in the cul de sac areas where the Wetterlings live. If I had to guess at how criminal minds work, I'd bet they like somewhere isolated, hidden, easy to get out of, with victims conveniently nearby. My guess is that the driveway was chosen on purpose as a convenient place to hide a vehicle away from the road, especially with Ma and Pa gone. How did he or they know the Rassiers were gone? Exactly. How did they know. How did they know? How did they know three sweet children would be walking by that night? How?? To get away with it seems to indicate some level of confidence in a plan was in place. IMO
 
human said:
In a previous post you thought more than one perp was involved.

Anyway, how would Heinrich know that DR's parents were gone? How would he know the length and the ease of the driveway?

DR talked about the afternoon car. But why would a car go down a driveway looking for kids at the home of people who had no young children and then return that night?
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He couldn't have known his parents were gone unless DR talked to heinrich and told him so. He would know the length and ease of the driveway only if he was the one that came in the monte carlo that afternoon.
 
Sasquatch321 said:
He couldn't have known his parents were gone unless DR talked to heinrich and told him so. He would know the length and ease of the driveway only if he was the one that came in the monte carlo that afternoon.
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It's possible other people knew the Rassiers were out of town. It's possible that the same person also knew the Wetterlings would be gone that evening. But eventually this line of thinking falls apart because the Wetterlings made their decision late in the day, and the boys' decision to go get a movie was spur of the moment.
 
aliensporebomb said:
CB was 40 channels back in the day and some had upper and lower sideband capability. Distance was relative to antenna height - and it depended on your radio too. Most people didn't run high power linear amplifiers (the most common illegal modification) because they didn't want to interfere with television transmissions and call attention to themselves to the local FCC office. Legal power was 4 watts standard and 12 watts single-sideband.

I've heard about modified CB radios transmitting high power plus "in between" the channels but that was pretty rare back then and it implies you know people who had another modified CB to receive your message. And who would he be talking with? That's what I want to know.

Car-based CB solutions could transmit decently though in the range of miles and receive even farther.

Someone mentioned ham radio - I don't see this individual as using HAM radios as you basically needed complicated licensing just to use them, the radios themselves were far more expensive than CB and they ran an overall tighter ship rules wise whereas CB radio can be like the wild west - all kinds of crazy things can happen if you listen long enough.

DJH seems more like he was kind of a strange loner and would go about his business by himself. Who did or would he talk to about this? Plus what's he going to do, transmit on CB his particular "interest"? This seems like it would stick out like a sore thumb and you would notice calls looking for that. I'm reasonably sure that given his history he was probably by himself when he picked up Jared.

However, if you look at it it's much more likely the perp had a police scanner (receive only) and was monitoring LE activities so that he could find out if he was in danger of potentially encountering LE while going about his business.
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Thank you for this informative and useful information. It would just seem to me that if one had an interest in ham radio, they very likely could also be into CB and police scanners as well. Just as our interest in these unsolved cases, we just as easily could have interests or backgrounds in law or law inforcement or forensic science, etc., all things related. Apple falls not far from the tree, etc.
 
Can someone enlighten me on Sam Soda and Fingerhut? Have not heard that name before. But I AM now wondering whether Fingerhut or some other major corporation in that area had salesmen that included the West Demoines territory. I could see a salesman having a CB or police scanner for speed traps. It looks to be a five hour drive from paynesville to West Demoines. Not out of the realm of possibility for a salesman's territory. We used to use a CB when we traveled long distance in those days because the truckers would let us know where "smokey bear" was. Although I believe radar detectors were beginning to come out during this time, they were unaffordable to us poor college students. :(. I think we borrowed a CB for our trips.
 
So, here is the suspect sketch of the Johnny Gosch perp. Doesn't look like Matice to me. But Matice looks like he could look like sketch in the Wetterling case. Later Will see if I can find younger pic of Matice.

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Simplemama said:
It's possible other people knew the Rassiers were out of town. It's possible that the same person also knew the Wetterlings would be gone that evening. But eventually this line of thinking falls apart because the Wetterlings made their decision late in the day, and the boys' decision to go get a movie was spur of the moment.
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dr knew they were going out? lol ridiculous sas
 
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