What sort of elevator tricks?
On YT they have different kinds of tricks, pushing buttons in different ways to control the elevator - making it zip past floors so no one gets on the elevator that you're riding, for example.
On YT they have different kinds of tricks, pushing buttons in different ways to control the elevator - making it zip past floors so no one gets on the elevator that you're riding, for example.
I saw them doing that but it wouldn't apply in this case because only Elisa is in the elevator and you have to push buttons in the elevator to make that trick work. What would be a trick that would have been used in this case?
I've thought of that, certainly a possibility among many possibilities.Put the body on the elevator and ride it to the roof?
I'm glad you brought up this subject. I wasn't sure if it was possible, but IMHO, that's exactly what EL does in the video. Her selection of buttons appears very purposeful in the beginning. She seems to know just what buttons to press, even though she leans in to get a closer look. (Later I think she's just trying to get the heck out of there.) I think it's plausible that someone (security?) warned her not to go to the rooftop, but she chose to disregard the warning, and tried to get away with it. That's why she appears so nervous when the elevator doesn't promptly close, IMHO, and keeps peeking out, and stepping out, into the hall. The final time we see her in the hall making the hand gestures, IMHO, she's been busted. She tries to explain to the person off camera, and counts off the excuses on her fingers. Finally, resigned, she slowly turns and walks away. When you view the video from this perspective, her actions are not bizarre at all. :moo::moo::moo:I also wondered about elevator tricks, it was a popular topic a year or so ago. Lots of talk in social media about what certain combinations of button pushing would accomplish
Could be something like that.
For that policeman to say that of the 100's of hours of video they collected that that is the best they have in terms of ID'ing her...well...that's just rubbish.
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I'm glad you brought up this subject. I wasn't sure if it was possible, but IMHO, that's exactly what EL does in the video. Her selection of buttons appears very purposeful in the beginning. She seems to know just what buttons to press, even though she leans in to get a closer look. (Later I think she's just trying to get the heck out of there.) I think it's plausible that someone (security?) warned her not to go to the rooftop, but she chose to disregard the warning, and tried to get away with it. That's why she appears so nervous when the elevator doesn't promptly close, IMHO, and keeps peeking out, and stepping out, into the hall. The final time we see her in the hall making the hand gestures, IMHO, she's been busted. She tries to explain to the person off camera, and counts off the excuses on her fingers. Finally, resigned, she slowly turns and walks away. When you view the video from this perspective, her actions are not bizarre at all. :moo::moo::moo:
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I'm glad you brought up this subject. I wasn't sure if it was possible, but IMHO, that's exactly what EL does in the video. Her selection of buttons appears very purposeful in the beginning. She seems to know just what buttons to press, even though she leans in to get a closer look. (Later I think she's just trying to get the heck out of there.) I think it's plausible that someone (security?) warned her not to go to the rooftop, but she chose to disregard the warning, and tried to get away with it. That's why she appears so nervous when the elevator doesn't promptly close, IMHO, and keeps peeking out, and stepping out, into the hall. The final time we see her in the hall making the hand gestures, IMHO, she's been busted. She tries to explain to the person off camera, and counts off the excuses on her fingers. Finally, resigned, she slowly turns and walks away. When you view the video from this perspective, her actions are not bizarre at all. :moo::moo::moo:
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I'm glad you brought up this subject. I wasn't sure if it was possible, but IMHO, that's exactly what EL does in the video. Her selection of buttons appears very purposeful in the beginning. She seems to know just what buttons to press, even though she leans in to get a closer look. (Later I think she's just trying to get the heck out of there.) I think it's plausible that someone (security?) warned her not to go to the rooftop, but she chose to disregard the warning, and tried to get away with it. That's why she appears so nervous when the elevator doesn't promptly close, IMHO, and keeps peeking out, and stepping out, into the hall. The final time we see her in the hall making the hand gestures, IMHO, she's been busted. She tries to explain to the person off camera, and counts off the excuses on her fingers. Finally, resigned, she slowly turns and walks away. When you view the video from this perspective, her actions are not bizarre at all. :moo::moo::moo:
Since the topic came up I've spent a bit of time tonight doing some research. Not a ton to go on but it's seeming like the "elevator code" is possibly as much urban myth as anything. But that's what we're doing here eh? tossing things out and tearing them down to see what fits and what doesn't
I had been thinking it was the reason she was wearing a sweater in Los Angeles, but not bringing a purse. She had been planning on going outside at night, but not actually leaving the Hotel.
It doesn't matter if it is an urban myth or not. All that matters is whether she believed it could work.
I'm sure it is, but EL might have believed it.Since the topic came up I've spent a bit of time tonight doing some research. Not a ton to go on but it's seeming like the "elevator code" is possibly as much urban myth as anything. But that's what we're doing here eh? tossing things out and tearing them down to see what fits and what doesn't
Perhaps security thwarted her first attempt, so she tried again. Or maybe security didn't warn her at all. What's significant to this line of thought is that EL was aware a certain floor was restricted, and she attempted to access it, anyway. Many have described her attitude as she enters the elevator as confident, defiant, amused. I think we see a little of each, as though she is thinking, "Ha, ha! Watch what I can do." But her attitude quickly changes once she gets a hint "someone" is onto her.Why would security warn her though? She would have either been caught on a first attempt, or security knew there was a danger on the roof, and warned her as a precaution.
It doesn't look like she's wearing the right shoes to go to the roof either, unless she didn't assess the safety of climbing a ladder without proper shoes.
To clarify further, the LAPD spokesman said "close to 100 hours", not 100s of hours (correct me if I heard wrongly). Close to 100 hours is not much video if there were 4 cameras, accounting for just 25 hours each camera, just slightly over a day's worth of footage.
I could mean that the footage was only stored for 24 hours, that they are motion-activated, or that the police just narrowed their examination to the "close to 100 hours" of relevant footage.
I wouldn't say I'm as positive as you that she is experiencing psychosis, but I absolutely agree with you about the hand movements. In fact, that is the single part of the video (from the 'smiling' and hand movements through the part where she grasps her hands together and seems to be talking to someone) that absolutely reeks of psychosis to me... however, I think drugs would be just as likely an explanation as schizophrenia.
Actually, when I posted my original questions about her glasses and their location, I was interested in other interpretations. If she was not without her glasses, then what would explain her leaning down so close to the elevator buttons to push them? Maybe she wore contacts and was without her contacts, but if she wore glasses just for fashion, I don't think she would be leaning in that way. Do you interpret this differently?
Actually, when I posted my original questions about her glasses and their location, I was interested in other interpretations. If she was not without her glasses, then what would explain her leaning down so close to the elevator buttons to push them? Maybe she wore contacts and was without her contacts, but if she wore glasses just for fashion, I don't think she would be leaning in that way. Do you interpret this differently?
Actually, when I posted my original questions about her glasses and their location, I was interested in other interpretations. If she was not without her glasses, then what would explain her leaning down so close to the elevator buttons to push them? Maybe she wore contacts and was without her contacts, but if she wore glasses just for fashion, I don't think she would be leaning in that way. Do you interpret this differently?