The Fall Of Kabul To The Taliban #2

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Three students from the Sacramento City Unified School District went to Afghanistan to be with a family member who was having heart problems. The children – ages 6, 8 and 9 – and their mother flew there in February and attended school in distance learning through the spring. They spent seven days crammed outside an airport, trying to come home, before bombs ripped through a crowd last week.

Now they’re hiding in Kabul.

Two San Juan Unified students, ages 9 and 15, traveled with their mother in July to Afghanistan. Their father was dying of cancer. They went there on summer break to spend their father’s final days in his homeland.

“There are thousands of students and children there in the same predicament that will start to unfold, I think, in the coming days and weeks,” Miyashiro told The Sacramento Bee in an interview Wednesday night. “Our story was first because we knew them. We knew they were there and raised attention to it.


Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/e...ae1-3a0c-ec11-8145-005056b02a09#storylink=cpy
 
Very very lengthy article, just picked out a few tidbits.

"In the countryside, the endless killing of civilians turned women against the occupiers who claimed to be helping them''.
By Anand Gopal
September 6, 2021
The Other Afghan Women

''Late one afternoon this past August, Shakira heard banging on her front gate. In the Sangin Valley, which is in Helmand Province, in southern Afghanistan, women must not be seen by men who aren’t related to them, and so her nineteen-year-old son, Ahmed, went to the gate. Outside were two men in bandoliers and black turbans, carrying rifles. They were members of the Taliban, who were waging an offensive to wrest the countryside back from the Afghan National Army. One of the men warned, “If you don’t leave immediately, everyone is going to die.”

''Shakira’s family walked for hours under a blazing sun. She started to feel the rattle of distant thuds, and saw people streaming from riverside villages: men bending low beneath bundles stuffed with all that they could not bear to leave behind, women walking as quickly as their burqas allowed.''

''This summer, I travelled to rural Afghanistan to meet women who were already living under the Taliban, to listen to what they thought about this looming dilemma. More than seventy per cent of Afghans do not live in cities, and in the past decade the insurgent group had swallowed large swaths of the countryside. Unlike in relatively liberal Kabul, visiting women in these hinterlands is not easy: even without Taliban rule, women traditionally do not speak to unrelated men. Public and private worlds are sharply divided, and when a woman leaves her home she maintains a cocoon of seclusion through the burqa, which predates the Taliban by centuries. Girls essentially disappear into their homes at puberty, emerging only as grandmothers, if ever. It was through grandmothers—finding each by referral, and speaking to many without seeing their faces—that I was able to meet dozens of women, of all ages. Many were living in desert tents or hollowed-out storefronts, like Shakira; when the Taliban came across her family hiding at the market, the fighters advised them and others not to return home until someone could sweep for mines. I first encountered her in a safe house in Helmand. “I’ve never met a foreigner before,” she said shyly. “Well, a foreigner without a gun.”

''When I asked Shakira and other women from the valley to reflect on Taliban rule, they were unwilling to judge the movement against some universal standard—only against what had come before. “They were softer,” Pazaro, the woman who lived in a neighboring village, said. “They were dealing with us respectfully.” The women described their lives under the Taliban as identical to their lives under Dado and the mujahideen—minus the strangers barging through the doors at night, the deadly checkpoints.''

''The women in Helmand disagree among themselves about what rights they should have. Some yearn for the old village rules to crumble—they wish to visit the market or to picnic by the canal without sparking innuendo or worse. Others cling to more traditional interpretations. “Women and men aren’t equal,” Shakira told me. “They are each made by God, and they each have their own role, their own strengths that the other doesn’t have.” More than once, as her husband lay in an opium stupor, she fantasized about leaving him. Yet Nilofar is coming of age, and a divorce could cast shame on the family, harming her prospects. Through friends, Shakira hears stories of dissolute cities filled with broken marriages and prostitution. “Too much freedom is dangerous, because people won’t know the limits,” she said.''
 
Afghanistan on the brink of humanitarian disaster with protests as Taliban announce first government | Daily Mail Online


Afghanistan is on the precipice of a humanitarian disaster three weeks after the fall of Kabul with furious protesters taking to the streets of the capital and locals unable to withdraw money from banks.

The chaos comes as the Taliban announced a caretaker government, awarding top posts to veteran jihadists as it seeks to bring stability to Afghanistan.

The announcement came amid another day of angry protests on the streets of Kabul, with Taliban fighters firing into the air to disperse crowds demanding rights for women, work and freedom and movement.

Basic services have collapsed since the Taliban took power, people cannot withdraw money from banks and Western aid has been cut off.

The Taliban's chief spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid held a press conference on Tuesday evening to announce UN-sanctioned Mohammad Hassan Akhund as their new leader.
 
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Interview: Sirajuddin Haqqani, Taliban commander
Jan 19, 2010

Sept 7 2021
''The Taliban included the leader of a U.S.-designated terrorist organization in a new government to formally mark the group’s return to power after 20 years of war with America, as the West grapples with whether to recognize the new administration. Mullah Mohammad Hassan, the little-known head of the Taliban’s leadership council, was named as acting prime minister, spokesman Zabihullah Mujahed said at a press conference in Kabul on Tuesday. Taliban co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, the main public face of the group who signed a peace deal with the Trump administration last year, will serve as his deputy. Sirajuddin Haqqani, leader of the Haqqani Network who is on the FBI’s most wanted list for terrorism, will serve as acting interior minister. That may complicate any moves by the U.S. to cooperate with the Taliban, particularly as President Joe Biden urges the Taliban to cut all ties with terrorist groups''
 
Does anyone know what happened to the planes stuck at the airport?
Depends who you ask, imo, speculation.
Sep 7, 2021, 22:09 IST
Blinken says the US is 'not aware' of hostage situation at Afghanistan airport after GOP rep claimed 6 planes were stuck there
  • ''US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said Tuesday the US was "not aware" of a hostage situation at an airport in northern Afghanistan.
  • GOP Rep. Michael McCaul on Sunday claimed six planes with Americans on board were being held "hostage" by the Taliban.
  • "It's my understanding that the Taliban has not denied exit to anyone holding a valid document," Blinken said.
US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said Tuesday he was unaware of any hostage situation between the Taliban and Americans at an Afghanistan airport after a GOP lawmaker claimed the Taliban were holding six planes at an airport in the northern part of the country.

Blinken on Tuesday acknowledged that some flights had been held at the Mazar-i-Sharif International Airport but said the planes were not allowed to depart because some of the passengers did not have the valid documents required to leave the country.''
 
Exclusive: Armed American civilians on private plane to Afghanistan arrested in Dubai


The group of U.S. nationals was detained last Tuesday and later released on bail by local police at Dubai International Airport after having "arrived on a private plane carrying firearms," the cable said.

"The passengers reportedly planned to assist Afghanistan evacuation efforts but had no approved onward travels plans," the cable read, adding that the U.S. Consulate General in Dubai was "engaging with authorities on the issue."
 
https://www.usnews.com/news/world-r...ation-of-former-us-air-base-at-bagram-sources

China Weighing Occupation of Former U.S. Air Base at Bagram: Sources

Building on friendly relations Beijing has secured with the new Taliban government in Afghanistan, China is now considering new ways to expand influence and embarrass the U.S.
"China is considering deploying military personnel and economic development officials to Bagram airfield, perhaps the single-most prominent symbol of the 20-year U.S. military presence in Afghanistan. "
 
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article254045493.html
''BOSTON — Over two decades, the United States and its allies spent hundreds of millions of dollars building databases for the Afghan people. The nobly stated goal: Promote law and order and government accountability and modernize a war-ravaged land.

But in the Taliban’s lightning seizure of power, most of that digital apparatus — including biometrics for verifying identities — apparently fell into Taliban hands. Built with few data-protection safeguards, it risks becoming the high-tech jackboots of a surveillance state. As the Taliban get their governing feet, there are worries it will be used for social control and to punish perceived foes.''

''Since Kabul fell Aug. 15, indications have emerged that government data may have been used in Taliban efforts to identify and intimidate Afghans who worked with the U.S. forces.''
 
Good for him.

Google locks down Afghan government accounts as Taliban looks for access: report

An employee of the former government told Reuters the Tforaliban asked him in late July to save data on the ministry he formerly worked for on servers the group could access.

"If I do so, then they will get access to the data and official communications of the previous ministry leadership," the employee said, adding that he is now in hiding since he did not cooperate with the request.

 
This scenario will be horrific.
From reports that food, medicine and money was difficult before, to now this.
Unfortunately I can imagine how this will unfold.



Afghanistan on the brink of humanitarian disaster with protests as Taliban announce first government | Daily Mail Online


Afghanistan is on the precipice of a humanitarian disaster three weeks after the fall of Kabul with furious protesters taking to the streets of the capital and locals unable to withdraw money from banks.

The chaos comes as the Taliban announced a caretaker government, awarding top posts to veteran jihadists as it seeks to bring stability to Afghanistan.

The announcement came amid another day of angry protests on the streets of Kabul, with Taliban fighters firing into the air to disperse crowds demanding rights for women, work and freedom and movement.

Basic services have collapsed since the Taliban took power, people cannot withdraw money from banks and Western aid has been cut off.

The Taliban's chief spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid held a press conference on Tuesday evening to announce UN-sanctioned Mohammad Hassan Akhund as their new leader.
 
Afghan soldiers trained by UK and US forces have defected and are fighting for the Taliban, sources | Daily Mail Online


Afghan soldiers who were trained by British and American forces have reportedly defected and are now fighting for the Taliban, UK army sources revealed.

British army officers have analysed recent images of the Taliban using their weapons and they believe some of the fighters are using techniques they learned from the UK and US as well as NATO countries.

A UK military source told The Times that they identified one Taliban fighter using a 'straight finger' over a gun's trigger guard. The source said this indicates they were trained by western forces as veteran members of Taliban hold their AK47s 'randomly'.

The source said: 'This is the safety training we have,' adding that if they displayed these techniques then we 'know it's our guys'
 
Four Taliban leaders freed in Guantanamo prisoner swap for Bowe Bergdahl join new Afghan government | Daily Mail Online


Four top members of the Taliban's new interim government are former Guantanamo Bay prisoners who were freed by the Obama administration in a prisoner exchange for Army deserter Bowe Bergdahl.

The four new officials were members of the hardline 'Guantanamo Five' who were traded to free Bergdahl from the Taliban-aligned Haqqani network in 2014.

The Taliban on Tuesday announced the appointment of Acting Director of Intelligence Abdul Haq Wasiq, Acting Minister of Borders and Tribal Affairs Norullah Noori, Deputy Defense Minister Mohammad Fazl, and Acting Minister of Information and Culture Khairullah Khairkhah.
 
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This picture of the fearless Afghan woman is one of the many compelling images that emerged from the protests in Kabul on Tuesday. Reuters
Viral photo: Woman protester stands fearlessly as Taliban man in Kabul points gun at her

^Also on the same link:
(Another article)
Videos: Protests in Kabul against Pakistan dropping bombs in Panjshir
Ahmad Massoud also released an audio message in which he called for a 'national uprising'
Videos: Protests in Kabul against Pakistan dropping bombs in Panjshir

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCYaldaHakim?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1435128803521597441|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://d-2469562130690495334.ampproject.net/2108280007001/frame.html
 
Afghanistan: Don't recognise Taliban regime, resistance urges

"The Taliban insist they have now defeated the NRF in the Panjshir Valley north of Kabul, but NRF leaders say they are still fighting."

"The statement said Washington would "continue to hold the Taliban to their commitments" to allow safe passage for foreign nationals and Afghans with travel documents, "including permitting flights currently ready to fly out of Afghanistan"
 
https://www.usnews.com/news/world-r...ation-of-former-us-air-base-at-bagram-sources

China Weighing Occupation of Former U.S. Air Base at Bagram: Sources

Building on friendly relations Beijing has secured with the new Taliban government in Afghanistan, China is now considering new ways to expand influence and embarrass the U.S.
"China is considering deploying military personnel and economic development officials to Bagram airfield, perhaps the single-most prominent symbol of the 20-year U.S. military presence in Afghanistan. "

You would think that our military would have predicted this and destroyed Bagram completely before they left. Just doesn't make sense. They knew that China and Russia would move in, and that China had the means and motive to do this.
 
You would think that our military would have predicted this and destroyed Bagram completely before they left. Just doesn't make sense. They knew that China and Russia would move in, and that China had the means and motive to do this.

Exactly! Many red flags are popping up. But the desertion of Bagram by the U. S. was my first ' what the..?" The explanations coming from the US State Department and the Military Brass do not really convey confidence, and actually raise more questions. That whole scenario to me was a white flag...of surrender. Negotiating with terrorists is another..IMO .
 

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