The GB4 and Shannan Gilbert-Connecting the dots

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WR, one day I look at my cell phone and see a number called me. I return the call. Guy on the other end tells me he didn't call me? I tell he did because I am just returning the call on the phone. He insists he didn't call. Truth is he didn't call me because someone who regularly posts on this Board using various names spoofed the call to my phone and put Hackett's phone number. Imagine my surprise when trying to figure out how this happened the fellow on the other end tells me his name is Peter Hackett?
 
WR, one day I look at my cell phone and see a number called me. I return the call. Guy on the other end tells me he didn't call me? I tell he did because I am just returning the call on the phone. He insists he didn't call. Truth is he didn't call me because someone who regularly posts on this Board using various names spoofed the call to my phone and put Hackett's phone number. Imagine my surprise when trying to figure out how this happened the fellow on the other end tells me his name is Peter Hackett?

Hi Hawkshaw. It sounds like you are stating that the calls to Mari Gilbert were made by Joe Scalise, who was able to spoof Peter Hackett’s phone number.

Though a possibility, the phone records eventually proved that the calls were made from phones owned by Peter Hackett.

Killoran, Ellen. “Why Hasn't the Long Island Serial Killer Case Been Solved?”. Rolling Stone. Rolling Stone. 15, December 2016.

“Gilbert's mother Mari claimed [Peter Hackett] called her a few days after Gilbert disappeared, saying he ran a home for "wayward women" and had taken her in for a brief period on the morning she was last seen, an accusation that Hackett has vehemently denied. Hackett also initially denied calling Gilbert's mother, though he later admitted that part of her claim was true, which phone records backed up.”
 
I know a lot of people don’t think Hackett is the killer but let me bring up a few points. He was the Director of Suffolk County EMS for a short time, and was relieved of his position due to inappropriate behavior with females. While Director, he worked in Yaphank, which is next to Manorville. He had a house on Fire Island, where one of the body parts was linked to. He was involved in a serious car accident and was “rumored” to be abusing pain killers. It was known to local EMS that he had a habit of using prostitutes and getting rough with them, as they were picked up from his house for medical treatment. If you go on the Suffolk County website, you find no information that he was ever a County official. He had a working relationship with police due to his connections with EMS and as an ER physician. Many local EMS were saying that they guessed he was “killing” them now when the bodies turned up. I believe this was a cover up to keep it from being public that a former county official is likely a serial killer.
I dont believe 90% of what I hear on a regular basis.
The above is an example of why I dont.
 
Why would this person try to frame Peter Hackett?
Actually, this person was trying to make a case that Hackett didn't make the call to MariG. When I wrote about it on WS a year or so years ago this person told me they called by cell phone with Hackett's spoofed number to prove to me it could be done. Going beyond that with technical reasons is way beyond my pay grade. I do have a copy of the phone records to Mari's phone with Hackett's number listed on the concerned date and time.
 
Hawk. Who do you think it is?
I really don't have a clue who did it. The only thing I can say is it was always about protecting a host of people whose reputations would be destroyed if there was an investigation into the murders.. Somehow, IMHO, it always gets back to one person: BURKE
 
If you understand the PIUS case it should open up a lot of questions. My SIL's case opens up a bunch of cases all by itself.

It all goes back to protecting James Burke. The BIG question is WHY?
 
Actually, this person was trying to make a case that Hackett didn't make the call to MariG. When I wrote about it on WS a year or so years ago this person told me they called by cell phone with Hackett's spoofed number to prove to me it could be done. Going beyond that with technical reasons is way beyond my pay grade. I do have a copy of the phone records to Mari's phone with Hackett's number listed on the concerned date and time.

The incoming calls on Mari Gilbert’s phone records could be spoofed, but not the outgoing calls on Peter Hackett’s phone records.
 
I really don't have a clue who did it. The only thing I can say is it was always about protecting a host of people whose reputations would be destroyed if there was an investigation into the murders.. Somehow, IMHO, it always gets back to one person: BURKE

Could it be that the corruption inside the Suffolk County Police Department is a separate case from that of the LISK?
 
Could it be that the corruption inside the Suffolk County Police Department is a separate case from that of the LISK?

One gangster (Bellone) said of another gangster (Spota) the DA office is a criminal enterprise. The DA office was run by Burke. Spota put him there and Bellone's BFF convinced him to give Burke the top spot. BFF owns a house at Oak Beach he purchased from a convicted drug dealer/pornographer/pimp. should I go on?
 
One gangster (Bellone) said of another gangster (Spota) the DA office is a criminal enterprise. The DA office was run by Burke. Spota put him there and Bellone's BFF convinced him to give Burke the top spot. BFF owns a house at Oak Beach he purchased from a convicted drug dealer/pornographer/pimp. should I go on?

I believe there is corruption in SCPD, but in your opinion is this corruption tied into the LISK case?

I can envision a coverup in the case of Shannan Gilbert, and incidentally a coverup in the rest of the murders, but not those men actually carrying out the murders.
 
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Right now ALL of the victims at least to the GB4 and SG. Keep in mind this would have never been the issue if a cop didn't take his dog BLU out for an exercise and discovered the GB4 SG would have never been found.
 
Right now ALL of the victims at least to the GB4 and SG. Keep in mind this would have never been the issue if a cop didn't take his dog BLU out for an exercise and discovered the GB4 SG would have never been found.

Please could you give more details regarding your theory?
 
Kind of gets involved with decades of life experience and 3 decades in the police department. I worked for/with the DA in Manhattan for 10 of my 15 years. Then the SIL case. Why don't you just PM me with a phone number and I would be glad to help you.
 
Please could you give more details regarding your theory?

It is kind of hard to explain because the information comes from years of being on the planet. When my former son in law was arrested I leaned very heavily that he was probably guilty - at least for something.......anything that even looked like burglary. Little doubts became almost instantly when I read Spota's press release regarding the arrest. Spota made some stupid remarks that made no sense to me. It gets hard to explain.

Keep in mind that Burke and Spota put the son in law in jail and I KNOW they both lied their asses off. Burke is in jail for essentially lying and to get many others to lie and SPOTA was right there with him . So when Spota jumps into LISK when he should have kept silent and goes to exonerate Brewer and Bissett.

The answer to your question WR is in the question when you asked me who did it: How could he possibly know that at that point in time..........unless he knew something.
 
Thank you for replying to me with this theory. I didn’t know that Dr. Michael Baden attached the caveat of the results being insufficient to determine cause of death in the case of Shannan Gilbert. Therefore I can agree that there is a possibility that she may not be a murder victim. However, due to the fact that her personal belongings, most significantly her jeans, were found in a different area, and the fact that a person of interest, Joeseph Brewer, had a motive, I still believe that foul play may be involved in her death.

Regarding the Gilgo Beach 4 and the other unidentified bodies. I believe these murders were committed by different people. I belive the Gilgo Beach 4 were murdered by Unsub, whose psychological profile I documented in my original post. The time frame matches and the modus operandi is identical. The others, including Asian Male, I believe were murdered at a much earlier time, with a different modus operandi, (dismemberment), and by a different psychological profile with certain similarities. The case of Asian Male seems to be a different situation than the rest. Asian Male was not strangled but was murdered by blunt force trauma to the head. My theory regarding Asian Male is that he met the killer of the unidentified persons, peaches and Jessica Taylor, and when the killer discovered that he was transvestite, he was enraged and beat him to death. I’ve touched lightly on the reports of John Bittrolf and believe that he could be the one responsible for the murders of the unidentified bodies, peaches and Jessica Taylor, but I will need more analysis.

Regarding the Gilgo Beach 4 many people have stated that the reason they were wrapped in burlap is because of Unsubs access to the material. I can agree that he may have had access to the material, but why would he choose it over something more common than plastic garbage bags. The significance of the burlap to me is that it is symbolic and somewhat ritualistic on the part of Unsub. Burlap in the Bible is symbolic of mourning and repentance. Perhaps Unsub believed that he was somehow saving these girls. Take that with the significance of the phone calls to Amanda Barthelemy. Those who I have discussed this with state that they believe the phone calls were a form of sexual sadism, but maybe Unsub was trying to scare Amanda away from a life of prostitution. I’m going to begin researching John Bittrolf at this point, please share with me any significant information regarding him.


Burlap is also excellent cameouflage
 
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