The GB4 and Shannan Gilbert-Connecting the dots
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It is starting to appear that way isn't it?
Peter Brendt
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Well, it never looked as if there was any other connection. Different pimps or none at all. Except for the theory of an alleged sex trafficking organization (and if one asks to investigate who would be in that, you got jumped on), there is nothing, that indicates any connection. And even this ominous sex trafficking organization would be one of a kind with unbelievable services like personal pimp, personal pimp and personal PA to every of the prostitutes. I wonder whether they offer also foot massages to them ...
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I believe that he has them decomp in the water out of sight and out of smell and then dumps the skeleton bag on land
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Or perhaps he does not have a family but instead a very demanding career and only get out to his vacation home around the holidays???
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But you would see that because the bones tend to fall out of position relative to each other, if he would do that. Even SCPD would have noticed that. Aside of it, the burlap would dissolve over weeks in the salt water (I assume, you think water=ocean) so it wouöldn'e be just grabbing a bone bag and place them at GB since there wouldn't be a bone bag anymore.
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How likely is it, he has a wife and a family in the first place? Psychopaths are not known for their homey qualities in the first place.
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DC, the nypd cop with hooker trouble...there is a TC with the same last name who lives at ** the fairway. That's two houses west of Joe Brewer, its the most western house in oak beach next to the parking lot.
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T as in Thomas (the train) C as in same last name as NY bike cop who lost job b/c of on duty services provided at brothel.
I have tried to find a relation to the two and as of yet cannot link them. There are many folks with that surname in the immediate area.
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Peter Brendt posted, "How likely is it, he has a wife and a family in the first place? Psychopaths are not known for their homey qualities in the first place. "
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Huh?
A couple name of some twisted psychopaths come to mind who lived the life of Family Guy, even if it was just a facade: Dennis Rader for one. And Richard Cottingham. Oh yeah, and the green river killer whose name escapes me right now. I'm sure there are many many more.
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A couple name of some twisted psychopaths come to mind who lived the life of Family Guy, even if it was just a facade: Dennis Rader for one. And Richard Cottingham. Oh yeah, and the green river killer whose name escapes me right now. I'm sure there are many many more.
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Does anybody know the name of the officer who responded to Oakbeach after Shannons 911 call?
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After I retired I took on a case where a young man was wrongfully arrested. He booked a trip with a lady Liberty Travel agent. When he arrives at his hotel in San Diego the agent calls him to see how he is doing. He thinks this is great…..until she asks him for the money he owes her. What money, I paid in full. She goes on to curse him out. She tells him she did what he asked of her, I.e., he brought $500.00 to his friend Steve in Forest Hills. He doesn’t have a clue what she is talking about. She continues to harass him on the phone and continues to harass him after he returns to NY. He yells at her on the phone and he gets arrested for harassment. The police never bother to interview Steve even after the complainant knows where she went to deliver the money.
I get on the case from there and go to Steve’s building and interview the super. He tells me this guy Steve should be thrown out of the building. He then tells me a ‘nurse’ called him to complain about him. He gives me the name of the ‘nurse’. She is actually a receptionist on the Queens/Nassau border for a dental office.
I interview her. She tells me an incredible story. She is a new employee of the dental office and doesn’t yet know all the dentists or the visiting dentists that do specialized work.
She gets a call from a periodondist who calls himself Dr.Friedman. Such a dentist does do work at the dental office. He tells her he heard about her and hears she is a good gal. Could she help him with a problem. She is all too willing to help. He tells her he has a friend by the name of Steve. Steve has problems with meeting woman. Would she go to his apartment to give him support. He tells her that when Steve answers the door he will probably be naked. Not to worry, he is harmless. She agrees to go. Dr.”Friendman’ will pay her $300.00 for her services.
An hour or so later “Dr.Friedman” calls again and asks he if she has $300. Could she give it to Steve to bolster his ego. She agrees. He will pay her the $300, plus the 300, and pay her expenses.
A short time later Steve calls her and tells her he knows what she has been asked to do. Will she come? Sure, I’ll be there with bells on. She gets there and Steve is as advertised, he is naked, and he is masturbating when she enters. She admits to masturbating him to climax. Gives he the $300.00 and leaves.
Monday morning she is anxiously waiting for Dr.Friedman. A Dr.Friedman arrives and ignores her. She waits for a bit and then goes into the doctor’s office to confront him. He hasn’t a clue what the hell she is talking about. He asks her if she bought him a sandwich. She is pissed and believes Friedman and Steve are in on this. She thinks better of it and goes to see Steve and raises holy hell. He gives her back only $200, and promises to give her the rest later.
I bring this back to the DA and the charges against the vacationer are dismissed. I first call NCPD as the dental office was on the border. The sex crimes unit and the 4th Pct.detective squad have a file on this guy Steve.
This guy is a master social engineer. He makes countless calls until he hit’s a mark that listens to his nonsense. How he knew the guy booked a trip with a Liberty agent is still a mystery to me. How he knew about a Dr.Friedman and the young gal being a new employee, is also a mystery to me.
Steve is still out there plying his trade and that was almost 20 years ago.
Imagine Steve going on Craig’s List or Backpage and dialing until he finds a mark. Is it likely he is the Gilgo Killer? Probably not because there are thousands just like him out there that have nothing better to do than to entice woman into doing things most would not ordinarily do.
I get on the case from there and go to Steve’s building and interview the super. He tells me this guy Steve should be thrown out of the building. He then tells me a ‘nurse’ called him to complain about him. He gives me the name of the ‘nurse’. She is actually a receptionist on the Queens/Nassau border for a dental office.
I interview her. She tells me an incredible story. She is a new employee of the dental office and doesn’t yet know all the dentists or the visiting dentists that do specialized work.
She gets a call from a periodondist who calls himself Dr.Friedman. Such a dentist does do work at the dental office. He tells her he heard about her and hears she is a good gal. Could she help him with a problem. She is all too willing to help. He tells her he has a friend by the name of Steve. Steve has problems with meeting woman. Would she go to his apartment to give him support. He tells her that when Steve answers the door he will probably be naked. Not to worry, he is harmless. She agrees to go. Dr.”Friendman’ will pay her $300.00 for her services.
An hour or so later “Dr.Friedman” calls again and asks he if she has $300. Could she give it to Steve to bolster his ego. She agrees. He will pay her the $300, plus the 300, and pay her expenses.
A short time later Steve calls her and tells her he knows what she has been asked to do. Will she come? Sure, I’ll be there with bells on. She gets there and Steve is as advertised, he is naked, and he is masturbating when she enters. She admits to masturbating him to climax. Gives he the $300.00 and leaves.
Monday morning she is anxiously waiting for Dr.Friedman. A Dr.Friedman arrives and ignores her. She waits for a bit and then goes into the doctor’s office to confront him. He hasn’t a clue what the hell she is talking about. He asks her if she bought him a sandwich. She is pissed and believes Friedman and Steve are in on this. She thinks better of it and goes to see Steve and raises holy hell. He gives her back only $200, and promises to give her the rest later.
I bring this back to the DA and the charges against the vacationer are dismissed. I first call NCPD as the dental office was on the border. The sex crimes unit and the 4th Pct.detective squad have a file on this guy Steve.
This guy is a master social engineer. He makes countless calls until he hit’s a mark that listens to his nonsense. How he knew the guy booked a trip with a Liberty agent is still a mystery to me. How he knew about a Dr.Friedman and the young gal being a new employee, is also a mystery to me.
Steve is still out there plying his trade and that was almost 20 years ago.
Imagine Steve going on Craig’s List or Backpage and dialing until he finds a mark. Is it likely he is the Gilgo Killer? Probably not because there are thousands just like him out there that have nothing better to do than to entice woman into doing things most would not ordinarily do.
Double Post (original question posted on MP thread)
I've posed this question before: How many of the GB4 had abortions? If so, what Clinic did they go to or did they go to a "private" facility/doctor?
It was noted in an early interview that SG had more than one abortion. What do we know of the GB4?
I've posed this question before: How many of the GB4 had abortions? If so, what Clinic did they go to or did they go to a "private" facility/doctor?
It was noted in an early interview that SG had more than one abortion. What do we know of the GB4?
I don't know of any other girls who had abortions. I don't think we really have that much intimate information about them. With HIPPA laws and lack of knowledge from the families, IMO it would be impossible to get very far with this.
I don't believe that information has been made public. I believe it was a 3rd Precinct patrol officer which would explain the 45 minute response time.
Perhaps LINative can clarify this but at various times Oak Beach has been covered by either the 1st Precinct (my criminal justice professor at SCCC worked this particular sector back in the early 1990s), the 3rd Precinct, or the Marine Bureau.
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