The inappropriate relationship (sexting) with minor

[CHERIE.T]

Geez, I almost just posted wanting to know what a "meat grinder dick" was. Duh.

:floorlaugh: :happydance:


omgaw I spit out a mouthful of coffee.

 

[CHERIE.T]

More about Kik and it's target audience. FYI: 15 yr old son uses it- 16, 22 and 26 yr old sons don't.

" A Kik spokeswoman says: "Kik's user base skews strongly towards the youth demographic and Kik is very open to working with brands who are looking to engage with their target audience." Kik has created a new service "Kik Cards" which allow users and brands to post images and videos without leaving the app"

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/20/marketing-to-kids-on-social-media-facebook-and-twitter-are-not-enough

Good to know. I hadn't even heard of KiK until last Thursday's hearing for this case.
It's impt imo, to know the approx age of users. Thanks

 

[tlcya]

If the girl misrepresented herself to be of age, then why the searches by RS about age of consent? BTW she is now and apparently was age of consent according to GA law for sexual consent. She was 16 when it started and 17 now. But GA and Federal law state that the sending of photos pornigraphic in nature (ie sexually suggestive or in state of arousal) is crime til person is 18.

So if the defense tries to allege the girl lied and said she was of age, she didn't really lie. Our perp just forgot to consider the laws might differ in regard to taking, receiving or sending the pics.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I've been here. May be getting down to your neck of the woods later in the year, I'll let you know. If so I'll take you and your sister out somewhere.

Yeah, I'm not so fun on these sort of cases. Guilty, terminate, next.

Yep. I totally agree with the guilty, terminate, next statement. He's a waste of space.

 

[RainCheck]

If the girl misrepresented herself to be of age, then why the searches by RS about age of consent? BTW she is now and apparently was age of consent according to GA law for sexual consent. She was 16 when it started and 17 now. But GA and Federal law state that the sending of photos pornigraphic in nature (ie sexually suggestive or in state of arousal) is crime til person is 18.

So if the defense tries to allege the girl lied and said she was of age, she didn't really lie. Our perp just forgot to consider the laws might differ in regard to taking, receiving or sending the pics.

The laws in GA boggle my mind. RH could have legally had sex with a 16 year old, but he can get in trouble if the same 16 year old texted him pictures of her breast. He can see her naked body in person, but it's illegal for him to have a picture of it! GA you make no sense!

 

[JusticeSeeker6]

Sadly it's not just Georgia. This applies to every state that has an age of consent under 18..which is most states!

 

[kjpaw]

The laws in GA boggle my mind. RH could have legally had sex with a 16 year old, but he can get in trouble if the same 16 year old texted him pictures of her breast. He can see her naked body in person, but it's illegal for him to have a picture of it! GA you make no sense!

I'm from GA and totally agree with you, but sadly we're part of the majority of states in this country with this issue. I believe there are around 39 states that the age of consent is under 18 (the federal age of whether or not something is child *advertiser censored*). So while I agree with your outrage, it's not just us!

Edited because as usual I misspelled something.

 

[SStarr33]

The laws in GA boggle my mind. RH could have legally had sex with a 16 year old, but he can get in trouble if the same 16 year old texted him pictures of her breast. He can see her naked body in person, but it's illegal for him to have a picture of it! GA you make no sense!

It is just stupid. Our leaders have rocks for brains.

 

[LinasK]

More about Kik and it's target audience. FYI: 15 yr old son uses it- 16, 22 and 26 yr old sons don't.

" A Kik spokeswoman says: "Kik's user base skews strongly towards the youth demographic and Kik is very open to working with brands who are looking to engage with their target audience." Kik has created a new service "Kik Cards" which allow users and brands to post images and videos without leaving the app"

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/20/marketing-to-kids-on-social-media-facebook-and-twitter-are-not-enough

DD who is 13 used it at 12 last year with her friends, but got rid of it since I was checking her chats.

 

[Girlrilla]

I think he had to have a stand in for his member. Probably an internet download

It was either that or he took it at another time and just sends it when needed. Barf.


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[jjenny]

If the girl misrepresented herself to be of age, then why the searches by RS about age of consent? BTW she is now and apparently was age of consent according to GA law for sexual consent. She was 16 when it started and 17 now. But GA and Federal law state that the sending of photos pornigraphic in nature (ie sexually suggestive or in state of arousal) is crime til person is 18.

So if the defense tries to allege the girl lied and said she was of age, she didn't really lie. Our perp just forgot to consider the laws might differ in regard to taking, receiving or sending the pics.

Because of how the laws are, I am pretty sure it wouldn't help him even if she did claim she was of age.
And him not knowing the law doesn't absolve him of responsibility either.

 

[tlcya]

I doubt anyone is in a big hurry to prosecute the girl, she could end up being a key witness in the case and will for sure be portrayed as the victim in his charges about her (if they are levied and not just a threat to pressure a plea). Kinda hard to prosecute her if you intend to hold her up as a victim.

But yeah, the laws in this whole area of law are one hot contradictory mess. MOO

 

[rabidstoat]

Whether or not 'she lied about her age!' can be used as a defense depends on if the law in question requires intent (mens reas) or not. If it doesn't require intent (and I don't think Georgia does for statutory rape -- though with the age of consent being 16 in Georgia, this doesn't apply in this case, if they even did the act which who knows) then you can't claim that as an excuse. If a crime does require intent, then a person might be able to use 'she lied about her age' to avoid being found guilty. It'd likely come down to prevailing common sense. It's more likely a judge/jury will believe that a mature-looking 15-year-old lied about her age was believed, than to believe that an 11-year-old claimed to be 16 and the perpetrator completely believed her.

As for child *advertiser censored*, that's a federal charge (I think?) and I have no idea if it requires intent or not.

Technically, though, a 17-year-old with a seductively posed selfie on their phone is guilty of possessing child *advertiser censored*, even if it's just a picture of themselves.

 

[tlcya]

It is important to note that an offender can be prosecuted under state child *advertiser censored* laws in addition to, or instead of, federal law

http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ceos/citizensguide/citizensguide_porn.html

just noticed this. He can be charged state AND Federal as in they could opt to charge him in both courts. He really should have done better research our little web design perp.

was looking for specific info about whether if the girl looks 18 and presented herself as 18 it could give RH an out on any charges (state or federal) Did not find the exact answer I was looking for but did find this and I suspect the law on *advertiser censored* is the same

However, under federal law, children cannot consent to engage in prostitution or be sexually exploited. Because children are exploited through prostitution, they are considered to be victims, rather than perpetrators, of crime

http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ceos/faqs/faqs.html#childporn

 

[danzn16]

Have they released how he met these women and how old the minor was?


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[tlcya]

no dang it and it is really interfering with those trying to sleuth his online presence, lol. He had to be a member of some sort of online meet-up or dating or casual sex site somewhere but there are so many it's like looking for a needle in a haystack.

 

[jjenny]

Have they released how he met these women and how old the minor was?


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Minor was 17.

 

[tlcya]

relationship began when she was 16 and she is now 17

Stoddard at the time of the hearing had interviewed and met the minor and one other woman who was of age. Both are unnamed. So apparently he has not located or interviewed the other four

 

[Lovejac]

relationship began when she was 16 and she is now 17

Stoddard at the time of the hearing had interviewed and met the minor and one other woman who was of age. Both are unnamed. So apparently he has not located or interviewed the other four

I wonder what the final count will be when it's all said and done?

 

[tlcya]

Would be interesting to know if there was just the one minor or several and if he had a type. Not that it has anything to do with Cooper's murder what his taste in sexters was, just curiosity insofar as it might help those trying to psychoanalyse dude.