Tulessa
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I can, without flinching.
That's the way to do it Tulessa. Quote and respond to something said over a year ago. Sheesh, we need a doc dump.:innocent:
I can, without flinching.
I thought someone said the picture taken at TL's apartment looked as if there may have been hair on Caylee's cheek and not a bruise. I don't know as I have not followed that closely. I think what is sad are the dark circles under Caylee's eyes in some of the more recent pictures. While the circles are not dark, they are still there. Also in some pictures Caylee seems to have a light red rash around her mouth. It could be something medical but wouldn't KC have brought her daughter to the doctors to see what was causing it?
Another thing I find disturbing is when RM stated he woke up one morning and Caylee was gone. He asked KC where she was KC stated her mother had called and told KC to bring Caylee home, yet CA denies this happened. Where was that child? Was she interferring with something KC wanted to do? I think we can see the fog lifting on this one and it's not very pretty.
I just concluded reading this on Val's site (which I love!) And became nauseated.
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=1358
...I don't believe caylee was physically abused,at least I hope not...the reason being is that I don't think her friends would have let that happen or would have been quiet about it.I do believe that kc loved her ,in her own way,she was just never hers,that's what she resented,I also believe in kc's fantasy world she believed what she did was justified,for caylee to be in a better place,when she talked about caylee being at the beach,the park etc. I think she really meant it....as for taking her along to parties or her bf house I don't see anything wrong with it.
BBM. Personally, anyone who takes their child to a party where there is drinking AND OR drugs involved need not have custody of that child. But then, I am from the old school where YOU as the parent set the examples for your child's upbringing.
BBM. Personally, anyone who takes their child to a party where there is drinking AND OR drugs involved need not have custody of that child. But then, I am from the old school where YOU as the parent set the examples for your child's upbringing.
BBM - Tulessa Oh I totally agree with you. KC made the choice to put her partying ahead of the welfare of her daughter... fullstop! and I don't want to get started about her sleeping with Riccardo while her baby was in the same bed as her. She makes me sick!
...I don't believe caylee was physically abused,at least I hope not...the reason being is that I don't think her friends would have let that happen or would have been quiet about it.I do believe that kc loved her ,in her own way,she was just never hers,that's what she resented,I also believe in kc's fantasy world she believed what she did was justified,for caylee to be in a better place,when she talked about caylee being at the beach,the park etc. I think she really meant it....as for taking her along to parties or her bf house I don't see anything wrong with it.
Add to that the picture of Casey and Caylee, at Tony's, with the "lovely" poster of the female sitting prominently on the wall. BUT, at least Casey didn't allow Caylee to be around cigarette smoke (sarcasm).
Could shaking baby syndrome account for the skull displacement that Val pointed out?
Could shaking baby syndrome account for the skull displacement that Val pointed out?
It's MOO that any abuse Caylee was subjected to by KC was more purely psychological, and thus, emotional. I get the idea from looking at some of the videos that KC made, that she did so to harass Caylee. There's no interaction between KC and Caylee while KC is filming other than on one video the sinister, "I kill."
I just get the feeling that Caylee wanted to escape the camera at times, and that she was very bothered by it. Now I do believe that KC would've deliberately provided Caylee with non-nutrious meals while in her care. Just gotta remember that psychopaths derive pleasure from other's suffering.
KC wouldn't risk or risk often even minor physical abuse to Caylee because Cindy would be all over KC in a heartbeat. I actually think this may be why Cindy has trouble owning up to KC's guilt. We read here all the time about child abuse that leads up to the death of the child, and I have to wonder if Cindy can't compute that KC killed Caylee due to the absence of concrete physical abuse.
Like them or not, Cindy and George suffered great abuse themselves from KC. I'm not sure how they kept dealing with it on a day to day basis. Anyone who has had an older teen or young adult on drugs living with them experiences similar abuse, the lying, stealing, failure to conform to society or pay bills owed. It is emotionally and physically draining. And they do escalate when crossed. I feel sure the fear of KC escalating was what kept Cindy's outrage in check. I see I've managed to get OT so will stop here.
Just wondering here if those videos were trophies?![]()
You have to wonder too if KC became pregnant to keep her standing in the home. Since GA and CA were the only ones who would put up with her, KC may have felt Caylee would keep KC's parents from booting her out on her own. Seems most of her friends are out of their parent's homes so she may have felt free room and board and no worries. After Caylee was born she realized what a big mistake and how do I resolve this problem. Not as easy as getting rid of a hamster.
Love to hear what an expert would say about those videos. No talking??? I talk on the video when there is no one around, just scenery...it's not like you can write on the back of each scene you film. For the person taking the video not to talk to the baby is disturbing.
You have to wonder too if KC became pregnant to keep her standing in the home. Since GA and CA were the only ones who would put up with her, KC may have felt Caylee would keep KC's parents from booting her out on her own. Seems most of her friends are out of their parent's homes so she may have felt free room and board and no worries. After Caylee was born she realized what a big mistake and how do I resolve this problem. Not as easy as getting rid of a hamster.
Love to hear what an expert would say about those videos. No talking??? I talk on the video when there is no one around, just scenery...it's not like you can write on the back of each scene you film. For the person taking the video not to talk to the baby is disturbing.