cluciano63
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What if a private company undertook the dig with permission of owners? And called LE as soon as (if) they see something of interest?
I would suggest that you contact Dan Patterson's office and see if he intends to let a dig proceed without a proper warrant.
Sharon Zellers was 19, a shy young woman fresh out of high school in Orlando, thrilled with her first full-time job as clerk at the Frontierland Trading Post. She left work that night at 10, presumably headed for home. "She was a very quiet and cautious person,"recalled her brother Steve, 36. "When she didn't make it home, we started to panic.' Her dad had taught her the route to and from Disney World, taking her along a stretch of West Colonial Drive. She never strayed, her brother said. Four days after she vanished, Sharon Zellers' car was found in an orange grove, eight miles from her route home.
Two days after that, her body was found nearby, stuffed into a manhole at a sewage-pumping station. Investigators would later discover Cox had been vacationing with his parents, staying at a Days Inn 340 feet from that manhole. The coroner ruled she had been beaten on the head 14 times with a blunt object.
The night Zellers vanished, Cox, then 19 and stationed at Hunter Army Base in Savannah, Ga., stumbled into his motel room, bleeding profusely, about to pass out. He was missing a quarter-inch of his tongue. He later told police he had accidentally bitten it off when "a big black man" hit him during a fight outside a skating rink. That would be next to an all-night Albertson's, a grocery store where Zellers frequently bought cigarettes on her way home.
On the night of her graduation? This suggests he was prowling the area for someone vulnerable.http://streeterfamilyblogg.blogspot.com/p/person-of-interest.html
Here is an interesting moment from an article about Robert Cox, as posted on Bartt's blog.
It isn't hard to imagine Suzie stopping for cigarettes on the way home, Cox seeing her there, following her home, and then coming back with a buddy and a van. Or just a van.
I don't know who Dan Patterson is, but: the garage is on private property and the owners of that property can order a core sample, dig, tear down the garage or paint it pink if zoning laws are not affected and proper permits are obtained.
My understanding from a post on one of the previous pages is that the people at the medical center are deferring to law enforcement. This makes sense because if something was found during the coring, it would become a law enforcement issues.
However, with the permission of the property owners, LE should need no warrant to do a core sample or dig. If the property owner won't give permission without a warrant, then the warrant is needed. So any way you slice it, it is up to LE to decide to put this possibility to rest.
Believe what you will, but LE will not proceed without a warrant and they dont feel that they have the evidence to get one.
As I understand it only one spot on the ground floor in that large garage was scanned. Kathee, correct me if I am wrong on that. If the entire ground floor had been scanned and only that one spot produced any anomalies then I might feel a little bit differently. But what if the entire ground floor was scanned and produced maybe 4-5-6 different spots or more that showed anomalies; would you feel any differently then? The more spots that produce anomalies the more it would tend to discredit the theory that the 3MW are buried under the ramp, and support the idea that it is likely just tree roots. And we simply don't know how many more anomalies that we might find there by scanning the entire ground floor.
On the night of her graduation? This suggests he was prowling the area for someone vulnerable.
You know, I never thought about something like that but thinking back nearly 40 years when I smoked that would certainly be true. She would not want to run out of cigarettes although I suppose she might have had a carton of cigarettes at the home especially if she and Sherrill smoked the same brand.My guess is that Cox was often prowling, stalking, trolling for victims of one kind or another in the right situation. All he would have needed to be doing is driving past the right after the bars closed if Suzie stopped for cigarettes or a snack. All of the smokers I know are very careful not to run out, and she may have wanted enough to get to the water park the next day. How many cigarettes were in her purse when it was found? These are the things that drive me crazy...
You know, I never thought about something like that but thinking back nearly 40 years when I smoked that would certainly be true. She would not want to run out of cigarettes although I suppose she might have had a carton of cigarettes at the home especially if she and Sherrill smoked the same brand.
Thinking back to then, there were three roads going east off "FF", Highway "M", Battlefield and Sunshine. Of the three, the one I would have used would have been Battlefield. It was on that road that most places would have been open to have sold those cigarettes. "M" would not likely have been used and Sunshine is not as likely either. I believe that two large grocery stores were on Battlefield not too far from turning off FF going east. I would think that would be the best place to get cigarettes. I wonder if the police ever thought to inquire of the night crews if she was seen coming in there. If they had, it is altogether possible that they would also have seen a possible stalker or prowler in the vicinity. Wouldn't it have been something if one of the clerks could have fingered a Cox or a Carnahan at the same time she came there? This is the longest of long shots but if she had a fresh pack of cigarettes and there were no cartons of the same brand in the home she almost certainly purchased the cigarettes while going home. That would have been a very good place to have made inquiries; if nothing else but to better set the time line.
I think I know the two stores you are referring to, on Battlefield. One, which I used a LOT, was Food-4-Less. I can't find them on the map now, don't know if they were near the intersection of National or Campbell. But, it was in a plaza and YES, had 24/7 hours, I know, I was one of their post Midnight customers. The other, which I THINK was also 24/7, name escapes me, but was on the other side of Battlefield (to your right in this example) was near the intersection of Kansas Distressway:banghead:...errr, Expressway.
I agree, if a stop was in the cards, Battlefield would be a choice, but if you JUST wanted to get home, Sunshine and Battlefield are both start/stop/start/stop, I would have used James River Freeway East, then Glenstone. Although, can't remember, if that finished at this time ? However, another argument against JRF would be, I guess, since the girls were probably a little lit, would have been to stay off freeways and use 'backroads.' Do we know they DID use 'FF' ? Not, for sake of argument, W. Weaver Rd. east and work their way up to Glenstone, stop at some Quickie mart on Glenstone ?
There was Gerald Carnahan. I heard several stories of women who told stories that they had been followed and barely got away from someone and when Carnahan's pictures were made public, they all named him....
OK, MM. I'll bite. Make the case for Carnahan. Meanwhile, I'll pop over to Bartt's blog and read up on him.