Now we are sleuthing here, as you know I am in the favor of the O house as the first stop to hid the body; very secluded and empty. I also think it may have been a re-bagging; staging, place as well. I fully get the picture you have painted and well done, I hadn't really thought of how the pants got the decomposition on them other than the bag broke as she was putting the body in the trunk to take her to Suburban. I just think all of the re-bagging is really a risk if it was done at the A's, she could have had someone walk up or come home and catch her. So the O house gives much more cover if you will. I can see how this may have taken place as you described above. I am not sure what she used the crate for other than to hull her stuff to Toney's place. At any rate, she was in such a hurry she forgot to toss Caylee's favorite doll. Any kidnapper would have at least done that much.
Well...admittedly I'm playin' kinda fast & loose w/ some things. But, true to your earlier post 'bout detailing the events I thought I'd add a little to the stew.
Just for grins...poking some holes in things I've held in my own thinking...
1) IF Lee's house was empty for 3-weeks in June....(per sleuthing on the Case Analysis thread it appears his roomie also worked for the same employer, ~same age as Lee, hence, worth considering that the house may indeed have been vacant.)
IIRC, Lee had a garage. Wouldn't Lee's garage have proven to be infinitely more ideal for carrying out all the body manipulation vs. G&C's house? Almost zero chance of being caught.
2) IF Oviedo house was used. ...(per sleuthing on the O-House thread) it would have also been infinitely more ideal to carry out the body disposal there...with the swampy woods on the south side protected from view all around by the privacy fence w/ the drive-through gate.
I can envision 10-minute-@-a-time Casey not having a plan and all the while thinking she was going to do something brilliant :idea:...more brilliant than O-house
![Roll Eyes :rolleyes: :rolleyes:](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
, hence, the body went back into the trunk vs. in the swampy woods there :doh:
3) I just can't bring myself to think Casey would have any hands-on activities with the body post-mortem. An outta-sight-outta-mind approach prevails for me on the body manipulations. This is in direct conflict w/ Casey applyin the tape post-mortem to stem decomp fluid leakage OR to stage a kidnapping. I see Casey having Cayle wrapped in the blanket for the duration...everything else was a means to get one-step further away from dealing directly w/ the body. I know it has been suggested that Caylee utilized Brian's shovel to manipulate the body...IMHO...unlikely. 40lbs on a ~3' lever arm (shovel length) would've made it too much for Casey...even if she used the trunk threshold as a fulcrum. Plus no forensic evidence on the shovel itelf.
4) Duct tape. Hard for me to imagine it being in the car so opportunistically. Which leads me to ponder (a) use before leaving G&C's ~4:11PM, or (b) post-mortem use after returning 6/17 (see above). Originally I thought the duct tape might have been applied around the outside of the blanket...but the detailed remains forensic descriptions don't seem to support that being the case. This pushes me toward duct tape use before leaving...which pushes me to Caylee being in the trunk before leaving (having a duct-taped Caylee in her carseat in plain view just wouldn't do). This would seem to fit w/ no-shoes on Caylee as has been reported. More recent phone records seem to support Casey was @ G&C's for Caylee's naptime (typical ~1-3PM as best we know) which coincidentally may explain the timing of George's call...being mindful not to wake Caylee @ 3:03 & 3:04PM.
But supposing Casey did the deed before leaving Hopespring...3:30PM t.o.d. ADD yields bagging ~2:30PM on 6/19 which coincides reasonably well w/ the apparent spontaneous jaunt over to JBPark that afternoon which coincided w/ Casey's IM to Iassen ~1:46 that she was going to go get something to eat. Plausible.
Ladder found on the pool Tuesday, 6/17.
Duct tape around the head peri-mortem (speculation per above)
Dunked in the pool w/ duct tape on? ![Mad :mad: :mad:](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
Wet body placed in 1 or 2 locations in the backyard whilst Casey fetched the laundry bag?
Laundry bag carried through the side gate (left open) and placed into the trunk of the car?
In the Blockbuster surveil video Casey hardly looks like she had gotten dolled up for the evening. IIRC, it started raining that afternoon ~3:50PM...so...tanning/swimming doesn't seem likely...:waitasec:
OK...not being helpful...just ramblin' here.