Recently I have been reading on some of the other forums, and came upon a discussion about the possibility that, because of her arm position, that she may have been tied upright by her wrists. When she actually was taken down, her arms had to stay in that position due to rigor. I had never thought of that, but did wonder why her arms were above her head. If that could have happened, wondering if the urine stains could still be in the front. To me, the wrist ties do not look strong enough to have held her. I do agree, her bladder emptied at the time of her death.
Never happened. Her wrists bore NO marks to indicate they were tied at ALL, the hands were not swollen as they should have been, and if she was suspended, her arms would be pulled straight up over her head, straight elbows. Her elbow were bent at almost right angles, and the cords made no ark at all on her wrists.
Her arms were not up over her head. Her wrists were approx in front of her face. They were bent at the elbow, up in front of her face.
Rigor will cause muscles to contract and pull shorter and shorter. We can only guess what position they were in when she was flipped over on her back (after she died on her stomach) but even rigor wouldn't pull them down to the position they were found in. They might have been down at her side, but lower arms across her stomach, bent at the elbow, but hands on her abdomen. They might have been bent at the elbow at a different angle, but up straight with her hands next to her ears, palms up. Rigor can also cause the elbows to bend. But one thing- however she was found is the way she was left in the WC. She was not "untied", "cut down", or "turned over" anytime within 3-4 hours or so of her death.