Found Deceased TN - Eliza "Liza" Fletcher, 34, Abducted while jogging 4:30 am, forced into SUV, Central Ave near Univ of M, personal items found, Memphis 2 Sept 2022

[elmomom]

IMO there are 3 reasons cops would take her car: 1. Routine investigation to run the computer data and see if any unexpected destinations/habits come up; 2. A neighbor’s ring camera caught someone prowling the car; 3. A neighbor’s ring camera caught the car leaving/coming back on a suspicious schedule overnight.

Unfortunately I can think of some other reasons. For instance, if the car was very recently used, and they need to check if the person who had used it was carrying any trace evidence such as blood while driving it.

 

[nightowl1975]

IMO there are 3 reasons cops would take her car: 1. Routine investigation to run the computer data and see if any unexpected destinations/habits come up; 2. A neighbor’s ring camera caught someone prowling the car; 3. A neighbor’s ring camera caught the car leaving/coming back on a suspicious schedule overnight.

Do we know for sure that the white SUV towed from the home is hers? Or could it be the husbands?

 

[nocturnes]

Do we know and/or is there a way to know if police removing things in evidence bags is happening because of a warrant as opposed to happening with voluntary consent of the homeowner?

 

[MassGuy]

Do we know for sure that the white SUV towed from the home is hers? Or could it be the husbands?

A photographer from one of the local news outlets said that he believed it was her vehicle. But it's unconfirmed.

 

[Curious_in_NC]

Any locals can give insight into what type of Park this is? Large, small, open areas, dense trees, etc?

All the above. It's quite large and is probably one of the most popular places for running within the city, at least during daylight. There's woods, trails, and large open areas. Also a well know spot for meetups of all types, both good and bad.

 

[nightowl1975]

Do we know and/or is there a way to know if police removing things in evidence bags is happening because of a warrant as opposed to happening with voluntary consent of the homeowner?

I don’t think we have any way of knowing for sure. From the posted photos online, it looks more like a search warrant to me. Just a guess.

 

[cuffem]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1565894857599623168

This does not look good.

 

[elmomom]

The black SUV looks like a nice rig. If it's not stolen, the perp has the means to finance ownership.

One wonders what other vehicles this family owns.

 

[otto]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1565894857599623168

 

[nocturnes]

I don’t think we have any way of knowing for sure. From the posted photos online, it looks more like a search warrant to me. Just a guess.

I’m very curious. To get a search warrant for her home would require probable cause that it was the scene of a crime or contained evidence pertinent to the commission of a crime, right?

 

[nightowl1975]

I’m very curious. To get a search warrant for her home would require probable cause that it was the scene of a crime or contained evidence pertinent to the commission of a crime, right?

Yes

 

[getthefax]

Sounds like it was at the site. The smashed thing troubles me, as it seems like an unnecessary step, and probably not all the likely to occur from a simple drop (cracked is one thing).

Snipped and BBM.

This is always one of those things that gets me. I wish they would be specific. Smashed? Cracked? Broken? Run over? The exact words would be very telling about what went down.

 

[Trebor5591]

So police towed away a white van from Fletchers home. Also they removed several boxes of items from her house.

Now why would police tow a family vehicle and remove boxes of stuff from her house? Unless, perhaps they are looking very, very close to her home for suspects in her kidnapping? MOO

"FOX13 was there as law enforcement searched Fletcher’s home. Authorities carried out several items from the residence and towed away a white van before leaving for the day."

Vehicle found, man detained in mother kidnapping while jogging near University of Memphis

A woman was kidnapped while running early Friday morning near the University of Memphis, police say.

www.fox13memphis.com

 

[elmomom]

I’m very curious. To get a search warrant for her home would require probable cause that it was the scene of a crime or contained evidence pertinent to the commission of a crime, right?

I think that sometimes they do get a warrant to collect personal items such as laptops, phones, etc to look into the victim’s circumstances in order to preserve evidence, but for the most part warrants are for evidence of a crime, yes.

 

[Done&done]

Good find! She's a quite fast runner, finished first woman overall in two recent 25k trail races and the 90-100% rankings are impressive (that's how you compare to others of the same gender/age). It would probably annoy her to be called a jogger.

ETA If she was training for an upcoming race, she probably had a variety of routes and distances she was using, ie a training plan with speedwork drills, long runs etc. I doubt it would be the exact same route every time.

Being a former good runner, I am assuming she had her typical morning route that she did every morning probably 5-7 miles. I don't think she varied that very much with a job, etc during the week. Weekends is when she got her track work/long run in....my 2 cents.

 

[elmomom]

One wonders what other vehicles this family owns.

And where any other vehicle may be located at this time.

 

[Mrspratcher]

I’m very curious. To get a search warrant for her home would require probable cause that it was the scene of a crime or contained evidence pertinent to the commission of a crime, right?

Or consent.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

I have been away for awhile. What’s the deal with LE taking her white SUV? I thought it was dark SUV that abducted her? Obviously I missed a lot.

 

[Sillybilly]

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[otto]

So police towed away a white van from Fletchers home. Also they removed several boxes of items from her house.

Now why would police tow a family vehicle and remove boxes of stuff from her house? Unless, perhaps they are looking very, very close to her home for suspects in her kidnapping? MOO

"FOX13 was there as law enforcement searched Fletcher’s home. Authorities carried out several items from the residence and towed away a white van before leaving for the day."

Vehicle found, man detained in mother kidnapping while jogging near University of Memphis

A woman was kidnapped while running early Friday morning near the University of Memphis, police say.

www.fox13memphis.com

Maybe they were removing laptops and computer equipment to exclude her social media presence as a reason for her abduction.