AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021

[birdsmomma]

Does anyone know if there are dogs in the search tonight? Can you have both tracking dogs and cadaver dogs at the same search? Sorry if that’s a dumb question, I honestly don’t know.

 

[TDW59]

I'd think with a helicopter circling around low to the ground, and a full ground crew combing that field in the middle of the night surely indicates this is a serious and solid lead of some sort.

I really wonder if they are using dogs too?

jinx

 

[TenaciousTBacon]

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Flight Track Log ✈ N740HP 20-Jun-2021 - FlightAware

Landed. 1:34a EDT

 

[helpfulcharlie]

maybe in need of fuel? or...they found something.

It's hard to correlate the flightaware map with real maps, but it looks to me like the helo ended up at Greeneville Municipal Airport. Could be refueling. Could be some other reason it ended up there.

Edited: confirmed after landing info posted.

 

[MsMarple]

Looks like the helicopter had left. They sure spent a long time going over that one spot.

It's at the Greenville airport (GCY) right now. Maybe refueling since it flew out of Rogersville earlier tonight. No update that I can find.

 

[ReadySet]

I may be misunderstanding where search is. Isn't this close enough that it would already have been searched, and it's a field so more open instead of the dense, hard to search vegetation?

 

[whitelilac]

No word on the ground crew in the field, whether they've left or are still there, I guess.

 

[Soulmagent]

36.432306, -82.714806 these cords were directly in the flight path so it should show you the exact area.

 

[whitelilac]

I may be misunderstanding where search is. Isn't this close enough that it would already have been searched, and it's a field so more open instead of the dense, hard to search vegetation?

Yes, I'd think it would have been searched earlier. That alarms me actually regarding Summer's fate.

 

[DeDee]

The location that is being searched ...

At the 9 second mark of the video in this reporter's tweet you can see the steeple portion of the Mt Carmel Free Will Baptist Church come into view on the left of the video (you will also see the Church's sign - it is square):
https://twitter.com/overbay_ted/status/1406471518163513347

On Google Maps StreetView, this is the closest position to where that video was taken from (actually the reporter/videographer would be on Fields Rd right where it intersects Beech Creek RD and looking NNW.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.4280897,-82.7261467,3a,75y,63.3h,96.71t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sdMrokl2_PC8T8pnZVkpjaA!2e0!6shttps://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?panoid=dMrokl2_PC8T8pnZVkpjaA&cb_client=maps_sv.tactile.gps&w=203&h=100&yaw=150.13255&pitch=0&thumbfov=100!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en-US

The helicopter in the sky is further to the north of the Church above the field just past the Cemetery.

Google Maps

I see the guardrail where LEOs vehicles were parked in the 2nd link. So, where is that in relation to the stop sign seen in the 1st link, if you know?

 

[TenaciousTBacon]

It's hard to correlate the flightaware map with real maps,

If you're using the app, click on the icon that looks like a stack of paper. Check the option for street names.

 

[Lillymac]

I don't know how the tail number became public, but you can watch flights here if you know that.

N740HP Flight Tracking and History - FlightAware

Well duh! I use FlightAware when my family is traveling by plane. Never thought about helicopters. Thanks!

 

[Soulmagent]

It's hard to correlate the flightaware map with real maps, but it looks to me like the helo ended up at Greeneville Municipal Airport. Could be refueling. Could be some other reason it ended up there.

Edited: confirmed after landing info posted.

The gps cords are all logged on a link on flightawares page . I am on a desk top. I don't know how the phone app works . You can just paste the cords on google and it will take you there, it seems to be across from simpsons loop and partly over a farm and home.

 

[TenaciousTBacon]

N740HP is still on the ground in Greenville. Just fyi.

 

[TDW59]

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If it is in approx a mile from the homesite, it was searched the first day originally. With the ground search crews moving further out in a radius. Yes, someone could have know they had left that area and returned to it. With tiny little Summer.
In fact, while the family were at church and the ground crew a distance away, tonight may have been a preferred time.
Wonder how LE found out? Were there helicopters and planes overhead.
all speculation, of course.

 

[TDW59]

I also think that just because the ground crews left at 8pm - 8am, that doesn't mean LE wasn't watching overnights.

Good night. I have to sleep finally. I hope there is some resolution tomorrow.

 

[helpfulcharlie]

If it is in approx a mile from the homesite, it was searched the first day originally. With the ground search crews moving further out in a radius. Yes, someone could have know they had left that area and returned to it. With tiny little Summer.
In fact, while the family were at church and the ground crew a distance away, tonight may have been a preferred time.
Wonder how LE found out? Were there helicopters and planes overhead.
all speculation, of course.

I would imagine a good tactic in a situation like this might be to leave trail cameras up overnight. Seeing movement they're not expecting might trigger a response like this.

 

[justaparent]

We are getting slammed with subtropical rain in western North Carolina but it doesn’t appear to have gone far enough north to impact that area. Unsure if it is forecasted. But it’s a deluge and could possibly impact the searches.

Still holding out hope that she could be alive, because you don’t give up until there’s a resolution. Flooding rains would be devastating for a little one caught in them.

 

[helpfulcharlie]

We are getting slammed with subtropical rain in western North Carolina but it doesn’t appear to have gone far enough north to impact that area. Unsure if it is forecasted. But it’s a deluge and could possibly impact the searches.

Still holding out hope that she could be alive, because you don’t give up until there’s a resolution. Flooding rains would be devastating for a little one caught in them.

I did see some spots of weather around the helo flight map, but didn't look like a lot, and didn't look close to search area. Crossing fingers, though.

 

[Gibbo214]

If it is an open field, I wonder how well they would have searched that in the earlier days. They were looking for a little girl lost in dense greenery, not in a field.