Thanks for the clip. About 1/3 of the way through now and the 2 people have just conducted the sound test (of a heated argument) at 300m. Both admitted they couldn't hear a thing, not even at 200m. They couldn't hear anything until they got to 50m of the engineer's apartment. They said that would be a huge blow for the defence.This made some of the facts really clear and gives a hint as to what evidence is still to come.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noVdB2WP2DE
Did anyone catch the timegap between the 2 sets of shots according to this last witness?
TIA
I think the State's case is sound and they know exactly which direction they are taking. All this OP screaming like a woman is all wind and bluster, it was RS screaming for her life that the witnesses heard pure and simple !
I have been following this case since the beautiful Reeva was killed. It took me forever, but I finally found some of the articles I had read after this tradgedy.
Was the bloody cricket bat used to beat Reeva?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-s...-skull-crushed
Roid Rage?
http://news.yahoo.com/report-steroid...131405281.html.
I scream, you scream, everyone loves icecream.
Thanks everyone for your dedicated coverage. :loveyou:
Have both these articles just been removed today? They are not coming up for me.
Thanks for the clip. About 1/3 of the way through now and the 2 people have just conducted the sound test (of a heated argument) at 300m. Both admitted they couldn't hear a thing, not even at 200m. They couldn't hear anything until they got to 50m of the engineer's apartment. They said that would be a huge blow for the defence.
I think Dr Stipp lived 70m away from Oscar's house? Unless the test is recreated at exactly the same time of night, with the same weather conditions etc, I don't see how it can be proved that all these witnesses couldn't have heard an argument. Actually, there was no screaming in the test, just shouting. I imagine a high-pitched scream would travel further.
Oooh, MM, while you're here, do you have any idea what the sky was like that night? Pitch black or a full moon?
Carol70,
Could you clarify something for me, please? Do South Africans use the word 'bathroom' to mean 'toilet', or are the two things always distinct, as in the UK?
I ask because Americans use the word bathroom to mean toilet (as in "bathroom break"). In Britain we never do this: when we say 'bathroom' we mean a room containing a bath and/or shower.
We use many different words to describe the small room with just a WC (toilet, loo, lavatory, WC and many more), but we never call it a bathroom. (Although regrettably this US usage is starting to creep in with younger people)
I'm sure this case is demonstrating how important it can be to distinguish between the two things.
Okay for me the case comes down to one point: if it was Reeva who was screaming at any point (and we pretty much know she was), then OP knew he was shooting HER and he continued to do it. Regardless of what happened in what order with shots or cricket bat, none of that matter. Reeva didn't think there was an intruder and she had no reason to scream unless her own life was in danger. And her life was in danger because the one person who was in the room with her put her life in danger.
I think he's not only guilty but now I think I could find him guilty of premeditated murder. To me there is no way he couldn't know Reeva was in that toilet room. Not with her bloodcurdling screams for her life. That's a primal type of scream, not one done in anger. I think he went into a rage and killed her, just like that. Then panicked afterwards and tried to create a story that would save his hide.
These are my feelings at this point also. We have 4 people claiming to have heard a woman screaming and two or three of them heard 2 peoples voices. It also doesn't matter to me if it was a cricket bat or gunshot which was first. To claim he didn't know she was in there is absurd.