TipDog
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So we agree that no conclusions can be drawn from the absence of a card from Oscar?
Oscar testified he loved Reeva. He is the only one who can say whether he did or did not.
Aside from Oscar saying he loved Reeva and Reeva writing a card saying "I love you", there are countless messages of a loving nature - kiss, kiss, kiss, I miss you more, baba, booboo, etc. Reeva was spending the night at Oscar's house and had spent the previous night with him as well. All of those things are evidence of a loving relationship.
Is there also evidence that there were times when this relationship was not so loving? Absolutely.
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No. Sorry I wasn't clearer - evidence of nothing, as in no evidence of a loving relationship (nothing from OP shows no reciprocation from him). Cases are not won on physical evidence alone, as I am sure you are aware, nor are they won on written words alone. And in this specific case - it takes two to have a "loving relationship" and one person giving the other a little card saying she loves him does not bring me to believe she really did or that he loved her back.
ALL THE REST
As far as Oscar's testimony goes, I don't have to (and don't) believe pretty much any of it. Just because he says he loved her, doesn't mean he did. And in fact he referred to her as someone he cared for when breaking down on the stand. If he was so deeply in love with her, why not say "this was the woman I loved." But those are my feelings about it, I don't expect you to share them.
And yes, there was evidence, in words, long words, that he was judgmental, controlling and that she was scared of him "at times" and how he reacted to her - doesn't sound so loving to me. And what do you think "at times" means, Minor. It doesn't imply just once. It applies multiple times (in a very short amount of time - four months!), but we have no concrete evidence to back that except Reeva's own words. And if you are willing to believe her four sentence VD card, then surely you believe her WA message to OP...yes?