Yes, he probably does but unless he has got himself into trouble in the intervening time, he sure will get it. The problem is the severe overcrowding of SA jails.
bbm
would today's 'how do you sleep' event cover getting into further trouble?
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Yes, he probably does but unless he has got himself into trouble in the intervening time, he sure will get it. The problem is the severe overcrowding of SA jails.
To answer that I'd have to know more about the relationship between Aimee and Reeva. I don't, so therefore I abstain from speculating either way. What I do know is that there hasn't been an issue brought before the court regarding this. That can be said without speculation. In any case, what were the SAPS doing regarding security?
I do however think it's unacceptable behaviour to steal from a crime scene. That again can be said without speculation.
So you're also familiar with her 'work'? I'd love to see her discussing the case with one of the many South African legal experts who see the trial's progress and current state somewhat differently.Methinks she has lost the plot.
BBM
Coincidence or not, I think it takes a lot of guts to do what they did in court today.
It would be interesting to know how many women would be prepared to do that in a live court session, if they didn't really believe it to be true.
As it was so forcefully expressed on many occasions with regard to the PT witnesses...they have nothing to gain and why would they lie?
Missing the sound of one shot is not such a big thing in the scale of things ,witnesses in cases like this regularly misremember the exact number of shots but their testimony on the whole is still the most credible and I doubt very much the judge will discount it for that reason.
In any event whilst thinking about it maybe there were two sets of shots .I would like to know exactly how many bullets were left in the magazine .For all I know he could have shot out of the window to scare Reeva and had the casings removed with the phone that vanished or maybe he attempted to flush them down a toilet ,who knows really .
I will be listening very carefully to the closing arguments before making my mind up on this .
No, OP's bathroom faces towards the back, his bedroom balcony faces 90 degrees to the right of that.Could be the way sound travels. Bedrooms and their balconies of both houses face the back of the houses and I thought the bathroom of OP's faced the front of the house, doesn't it?
This, I have thought about a lot today. Can you imagine what the defense and some of the members here would have said had the prosecution female witnesses screamed as they heard that night. People would be having coronaries due to the prejudicial nature but of course here the witnesses are praised for their bravery lol! It's such a blatant double standard.
This will not be the state's argument. Nel has stated that only 4 shots were fired that night.
BBM
Not so. It seems clear from the Stipp's testimonies that they heard 6 shots. Therefore we know for certain that despite the balcony windows being open and at least one of them being awake the whole time, they didn't hear correctly that morning.
absolutely, and a woman witness, who has just given evidence to having heard a MAN crying, then 'demonstrates' the sound using HER voice. why? totally pointless.
and it happened twice.
bbm
would today's 'how do you sleep' event cover getting into further trouble?
This is really strange. The screams apparently were "blood curdling" which I don't doubt at all. So what now? Do the pros and defense witnesses cancel each other out? Will Nel now need to bring in an expert to testify as to how sound travels?
Yet Mr.Stander was quite adamant that Dr.Stipp had told him that he'd heard 4+4....
Did you hear the two woman scream in court today? I would guess that sound could be interpreted as "blood curdling" - Mr and Mrs N both said it was high pitched also. It's reasonable to believe that screaming is what all the witnesses heard - they just applied different interpretations.
I was going by the times on the phone records from Security's landline and cell phone.
But you may be right about Dr Stipp - maybe I'm confusing him with Johnson. It was Johnson and Burger who heard the second bangshots after they got off the phone with security (and went back to bed - didn't call back after they heard those). Johnson's phone call was at 3:16 and lasted 58 seconds. I think that's how the 3:17 time was nailed down.
So mrs N heard one bangshot and then help help help and then called security at 3:16 and change (IIRC)
Apologies if this has been discussed. I'm still catching up.
Mr. Baba testified that Dr. Stipp and a neighbor called and both reported gunshots. Was Mr. Nhlengethwa the neighbor who reported the gunshots? If not there must be another neighbor who called security.
Giggle. I do believe you are.
Diamond ring (nicest you can afford)
Party to celebrate
Announcement to friends/family
Answering endless questions about 'when's the big day then?'
Answering endless questions about houses/family plans etc
The beginning of THE plans for THE wedding (that will gradually increase to THE WEDDING as the day nears and there is all that stuff)
And....there's probably more but I got bored with the whole lot, threw up my hands and got married on the hop, managed to be late to my own wedding (but hubby was with me), then had to be gently evicted from the venue as we were both a little drunk, and everyone else had gone home......we had a lovely time though.
So you're also familiar with her 'work'? I'd love to see her discussing the case with one of the many South African legal experts who see the trial's progress and current state somewhat differently.