Trial Discussion Thread #38 - 14.05.13 Day 31

[Freya1977]

I think Roux thought he could sneak this in and use it as a basis for appeal later. He never thought Nel would jump on it and make an application. It's backfired on the DT big time.

 

[kaos]

He appears to be totally disinterested

I thought that too. Quite bizarre considering his GAD would surely be heightened by the thought of going to a psychiatric unit.

 

[zwiebel]

N: I have had an opp to consult handbooks...I couldn't find a definition of mental illness, but there is a case, the Supreme Court of Appeal....

Nel quotes a para that says any court case with an accused with mental illness where there has not been an expert diagnosis is 'futile'.

 

[patCee]

Nel saying a psychiatric assessment where assessors have all the evidence, including OP's versions.

 

[Emz73]

June smiled when Nel said 3 versions....

 

[soozieqtips]

June Steenkamp just gave a really big smile to the person sitting next to her when Nel said "The accused has now given us three versions".

 

[zwiebel]

N: The accused has now furnished us with three versions...we say at this stage, the court is certainly entitled to know what the accused's defence is...

 

[ColonelMustard]

He appears to be totally disinterested

He's acting.

Oh, no, a tear. THAT'S REAL, and I mean it. He knows how this is going to turn out.

 

[zwiebel]

N: Based on the evidence, at least Mr R will not argue they are abandoning diminished responsibility and that should be taken into account...

 

[Val1]

Is OP making notes or just head down with glasses on?

Writing his new book but only because I doubt he's playing Farmville, perhaps Solitaire though...

Edit: this buffering is really getting annoying!

 

[BritsKate]

So I think Nel just said psych was drafted in just because OP gave such terrible evidence?

One of our posters said exactly that, ages ago.....

ETA: Well, not ages, just upthread here....

:biggrin:

Yesterday already. It is ages in Oscar World. Heck, I could have changed my post (and version) 3,798 times by now.

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[zwiebel]

N: Dr V argued he is a danger to himself and others and should not be allowed to own a firearm....

I keep losing my feed!!!

 

[04009margaret]

Although I think he should be assessed, it's going to be awful for Reeva's family to wait even longer.

My withdrawal symptoms will kick in too

JS is smiling, I believe she's in court today for this, Nel would have advised her of this.

 

[Freya1977]

Oops Nel just called he "my lord"

 

[zwiebel]

Writing his new book but only because I doubt he's playing Farmville, perhaps Solitaire though...

Edit: this buffering is really getting annoying!

Ah, is that what it's called? V annoying, anyway. I missed what judge just asked then.

 

[Freya1977]

Writing his new book but only because I doubt he's playing Farmville, perhaps Solitaire though...

Edit: this buffering is really getting annoying!

I'm so glad it's not just need!

 

[ColonelMustard]

I think judges like being presented with previous case histories.

Yes, because it spreads around the responsibilty.

 

[Trooper]

JS is smiling, I believe she's in court today for this, Nel would have advised her of this.

if Nel gets this, Oscar is kissing his bail goodbye for the duration of his trial however long it takes, now..

 

[zwiebel]

Nel is setting out to the judge in no uncertain terms why he thinks OP's case has 'passed the test' for ordering a psych evaluation. He says there is a 'low' threshold for an order of referral.

 

[BritsKate]

andrew harding ‏@BBCAndrewH 3m
Nel says fact that Vorster argues #OscarPistorius is a "danger to society" means psychiatric evaluation essential.

https://twitter.com/BBCAndrewH