TX TX - Johnny Perez, 23, San Antonio, 2 Jul 1993

[YaYa_521]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Johnny Perez Male Multiple​

(UID890 White / Caucasian)​

Date of Last Contact. July 2, 1993
Missing From. San Antonio, Texas
Missing Age 23 Years

Demographics
Missing Age. 23 Years
Current Age. 49 Years
First Name. Johnny
Middle Name--
Last Name. Perez
Nickname/Alias--

Sex. Male
Height. 5' 0" - 5' 10" (60 - 70 Inches)
Weight. 150 - 190 lbs
Race/Ethnicity. White / Caucasian, Hispanic / Latino

Physical Description
Hair Color. Brown
Eye Color. Brown

Circumstances
Date of Last Contact July 2, 1993
Location. San Antonio, Texas
County. Bexar County

Circumstances of Disappearance
MP attending a family barbecue.

Circumstance Notes - Bexar County Crime Stoppers 210-224-7867

Seven (7) NamUs exclusions.

 

[YaYa_521]

I'm a considering this UID890 as a potential match.

LA - LA - St Tammy Parish, WhtMale UP890, 25-38, Pearl River wetlands, broken hip, Oct'93


Date of Last Contact. July 2, 1993. UID discovered October 29, 1993 (~4 mos.)
Missing From. San Antonio, Texas. St. Tammany Parish, LA
Missing Age. 23 Years

Demographics
Missing Age. 23 Years UID 25-38yo
Current Age. 49 Years
First Name. Johnny
Middle Name--
Last Name. Perez
Nickname/Alias--

Sex. Male. Match
Height. 5' 0" - 5' 10" (60 - 70 Inches) 5' 6"(66 inches) , Estimated
Weight. 150 - 190 lbs. Cannot estimate
Race/Ethnicity. White / Caucasian, Hispanic / Latino. White / Caucasian

Physical Description
Hair Color. Brown. No hair or eye color listed. UID composite shows
Eye Color. Brown. brown hair and dark eyes. May not be accurate.

Circumstances
Date of Last Contact July 2, 1993. Date Found. October 29, 1993 Est YOD 1993
Location. San Antonio, Texas. St. Tammany Parish, LA
County. Bexar County. Approx. 8 hrs.

Circumstances of Disappearance
MP attending a family barbecue.
Found in a swampy, wooded area in St. Tammany Parish, LA.

Circumstance Notes - Bexar County Crime Stoppers 210-224-7867

Seven (7) NamUs exclusions of which UID890 IS NOT a listing.
Six (6) MPs excluded. Johnny Perez has NOT been excluded as a match to UID890.

It's approximately 8 hours between San Antonio and St. Tammany Parish, LA. (link)

# My speculations /opinions /queries are below.

IMO Mr. Perez and UID890 have a strong possibility as a match! The only scenarios I can come up with is that Mr. Perez either met with foul play somewhere along his route to the family BBQ in San Antonio, TX (no info on where he's traveling from), he got lost along his route and somehow ended up in La., or he intentionally left Texas and headed to La. At that point any number of possibilities would explain how he ended up in a swamp including suicide, accident, and murder.

I wonder whether he knew anyone in La. or someplace where he'd have to travel through St. Tammany Parish as part of his journey? What was his state of mind at the time? Was he still in the military, assuming his uniform in the MP photo was issued by a branch of the military?

To family's or anyone else's knowledge is it possible he was involved in any kind of shady dealings or had assets or a substantial amount of cash that may have put him in danger of harm? UID's hands and limbs were not found. This could be due to decomp. and/or trauma of some sort. He was not recognizable and was partially skeletonized. He wore Wrangler jeans and Nike tennis shoes. Mr. Perez, at 23yo, most likely would have been comfy in Nike tennies and being from Texas, y'all it's not unreasonable to think he'd wear Wrangler jeans--these aren't gabardine pants.

TIA

 

[Jim_M]

I'm a considering this UID890 as a potential match.

LA - LA - St Tammy Parish, WhtMale UP890, 25-38, Pearl River wetlands, broken hip, Oct'93


Date of Last Contact. July 2, 1993. UID discovered October 29, 1993 (~4 mos.)
Missing From. San Antonio, Texas. St. Tammany Parish, LA
Missing Age. 23 Years

Demographics
Missing Age. 23 Years UID 25-38yo
Current Age. 49 Years
First Name. Johnny
Middle Name--
Last Name. Perez
Nickname/Alias--

Sex. Male. Match
Height. 5' 0" - 5' 10" (60 - 70 Inches) 5' 6"(66 inches) , Estimated
Weight. 150 - 190 lbs. Cannot estimate
Race/Ethnicity. White / Caucasian, Hispanic / Latino. White / Caucasian

Physical Description
Hair Color. Brown. No hair or eye color listed. UID composite shows
Eye Color. Brown. brown hair and dark eyes. May not be accurate.

Circumstances
Date of Last Contact July 2, 1993. Date Found. October 29, 1993 Est YOD 1993
Location. San Antonio, Texas. St. Tammany Parish, LA
County. Bexar County. Approx. 8 hrs.

Circumstances of Disappearance
MP attending a family barbecue.
Found in a swampy, wooded area in St. Tammany Parish, LA.

Circumstance Notes - Bexar County Crime Stoppers 210-224-7867

Seven (7) NamUs exclusions of which UID890 IS NOT a listing.
Six (6) MPs excluded. Johnny Perez has NOT been excluded as a match to UID890.

It's approximately 8 hours between San Antonio and St. Tammany Parish, LA. (link)

# My speculations /opinions /queries are below.

IMO Mr. Perez and UID890 have a strong possibility as a match! The only scenarios I can come up with is that Mr. Perez either met with foul play somewhere along his route to the family BBQ in San Antonio, TX (no info on where he's traveling from), he got lost along his route and somehow ended up in La., or he intentionally left Texas and headed to La. At that point any number of possibilities would explain how he ended up in a swamp including suicide, accident, and murder.

I wonder whether he knew anyone in La. or someplace where he'd have to travel through St. Tammany Parish as part of his journey? What was his state of mind at the time? Was he still in the military, assuming his uniform in the MP photo was issued by a branch of the military?

To family's or anyone else's knowledge is it possible he was involved in any kind of shady dealings or had assets or a substantial amount of cash that may have put him in danger of harm? UID's hands and limbs were not found. This could be due to decomp. and/or trauma of some sort. He was not recognizable and was partially skeletonized. He wore Wrangler jeans and Nike tennis shoes. Mr. Perez, at 23yo, most likely would have been comfy in Nike tennies and being from Texas, y'all it's not unreasonable to think he'd wear Wrangler jeans--these aren't gabardine pants.

TIA

Good catch YaYa IMO. I wonder if he does have any family still looking for, and wondering what happened to, JP? 1993 was really the beginning of the Internet, and a lot more information might still be found in the library archives.

 

[YaYa_521]

Good catch YaYa IMO. I wonder if he does have any family still looking for, and wondering what happened to, JP? 1993 was really the beginning of the Internet, and a lot more information might still be found in the library archives.

Ty, Jim.

Yeah I'm hoping the professional/more seasoned Sleuthers will pass by and do their thaaaang. They always amaze me with the info. they find. Hopefully we can get Johnny back home and UID890 his name back. Fingers crossed!

 

[YaYa_521]

I wasn't very successful sleuthing any more info on Johnny. I guess too, even if I did I'd still wonder whether he's a match with St. Tammany Doe. Mysteries bother me.

I've decided to submit Johnny as potential match to St. Tammany Parish Doe. Imo he deserves a test. Hopefully they'll have all the DNA, dentals, prints, etc. to compare. I'll report back if/when I receive any correspondence. I'll work on getting in touch with case contacts Monday (2/25/19).

Fingers crossed!

 

[YaYa_521]

I sent an email to LSU Faces Lab.

 

[CastlesBurning]

Bumping for Johnny - it's now been over 28 years.

 

[Sammymarie]

Good catch YaYa IMO. I wonder if he does have any family still looking for, and wondering what happened to, JP? 1993 was really the beginning of the Internet, and a lot more information might still be found in the library archives.

Hi I am johnnys daughter do you know if they ever found a match on this

 

[Sammymarie]

Bumping for Johnny - it's now been over 28 years.

Hi do you know if they found out about the body in LA

 

[Sammymarie]

I wasn't very successful sleuthing any more info on Johnny. I guess too, even if I did I'd still wonder whether he's a match with St. Tammany Doe. Mysteries bother me.

I've decided to submit Johnny as potential match to St. Tammany Parish Doe. Imo he deserves a test. Hopefully they'll have all the DNA, dentals, prints, etc. to compare. I'll report back if/when I receive any correspondence. I'll work on getting in touch with case contacts Monday (2/25/19).

Fingers crossed!

My dad was murderd by Jack Lee King body was never found he says he doesn’t know where it is , did they ever find out if this was a match ? I’m still trying to figure out the truth about my dad

 

[YaYa_521]

My dad was murderd by Jack Lee King body was never found he says he doesn’t know where it is , did they ever find out if this was a match ? I’m still trying to figure out the truth about my dad

Hi, @Sammymarie. I have not heard back from anyone at the LSU Faces lab. You should consider calling the lab to inquire about the comparison. The ME would be more likely to speak with a family member rather than some random person from an internet submission. I'd also suggest contacting the investigator on Johnny's case to request they contact the medical examiner about the comparison. I hope and pray you get answers soon.

 

[YaYa_521]

Can you prove murder without a body?

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In 2009, Jack Lee King was sentenced to 60 years for the 1993 murder in San Antonio of 23-year-old Johnny Perez, whose body was never found. Witnesses said King killed Perez after a barbecue, shooting him in the front seat of his car then driving away. There was no physical evidence against King, who was also charged with two later murders. It took 16 years for witnesses to come forward.

Cold case murder trial results in 60-year term

In a letter to state District Judge Philip Kazen in May asking for a speedy trial, King...

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Nov. 30, 2010
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Jurors assessed a 60-year sentence Wednesday for Jack Lee King, who was on trial for the 1993 murder of a 23-year-old whose body was never found. Two more murder trials - for a cold case dating back to 1995 - are still pending against King, and prosecutors indicated Wednesday they still plan to move forward with them.

Man on trial in 1993 killing, charged in 2 others

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Dec. 01, 2010
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However, at some point, Wright said, Perez got into the passenger seat of King's car while King was gone. King returned with a gun and shot Perez at close range, Wright said witnesses will testify. [snip] ...King later told him that he had last seen Perez at a gas station, where Perez left with some girls.

 

[YaYa_521]

Hi I am johnnys daughter do you know if they ever found a match on this

I'd suggest inquiring whether either of these two unidentified decedents are a match to your dad.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Date Body Found August 3, 2015
Location Found San Antonio, Texas
Male, White / Caucasian
Height 5' 7"(67 inches) , Measured
Near complete or complete skeleton

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Date Body Found September 18, 2021
Location Found San Antonio, Texas
Uncertain Sex, White / Caucasian, Hispanic / Latino
Circumstances of Recovery Found in wooded area by Dove hunters
Partial skeletal parts only

 

[Sammymarie]

I'd suggest inquiring whether either of these two unidentified decedents are a match to your dad.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Date Body Found August 3, 2015
Location Found San Antonio, Texas
Male, White / Caucasian
Height 5' 7"(67 inches) , Measured
Near complete or complete skeleton

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Date Body Found September 18, 2021
Location Found San Antonio, Texas
Uncertain Sex, White / Caucasian, Hispanic / Latino
Circumstances of Recovery Found in wooded area by Dove hunters
Partial skeletal parts only

Thank you seriously I’ve been investing myself his killer is up for parole next year

 

[Sammymarie]

Thank you seriously I’ve been investing myself his killer is up for parole next year

watch the story , it didn’t help us find him but atleast his story was heard

 

[Sammymarie]

Thank you seriously I’ve been investing myself his killer is up for parole next year

One of this bodies was found in the south side which is where we are from

 

[Sammymarie]

Hi, @Sammymarie. I have not heard back from anyone at the LSU Faces lab. You should consider calling the lab to inquire about the comparison. The ME would be more likely to speak with a family member rather than some random person from an internet submission. I'd also suggest contacting the investigator on Johnny's case to request they contact the medical examiner about the comparison. I hope and pray you get answers soon.

Thank you I spoke to investigator they missed a lot I think personally his testimony’s about his murder didn’t get submitted or spoken about in 14 years so they convicted a man with no body just a bunch of witnesses who came forward after 14 years how is that plausible . How are they not accounted for not coming forward , im trying to find out everything I can now and read all the case. There Are somethings confusing or typos in the paper work that are confusing to me . It’s hard to know what to believe . His killer says he didn’t kill mad dad other people testified he did , he says he doesn’t know where the body is ! I’m debating on writing him and seeing if he will let me come talk to him

 

[Sammymarie]

I'd suggest inquiring whether either of these two unidentified decedents are a match to your dad.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Date Body Found August 3, 2015
Location Found San Antonio, Texas
Male, White / Caucasian
Height 5' 7"(67 inches) , Measured
Near complete or complete skeleton

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

Date Body Found September 18, 2021
Location Found San Antonio, Texas
Uncertain Sex, White / Caucasian, Hispanic / Latino
Circumstances of Recovery Found in wooded area by Dove hunters
Partial skeletal parts only

These bodies have been identified

 

[cheemsg]

These bodies have been identified

As who?

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Johnny Perez – The Charley Project