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Scientists reconstruct man’s face in bid to identify skeleton - Evening Express

The skeletal remains were discovered by a forestry worker almost 12 months ago near to the Bathurst Estate in Cirencester, Gloucestershire.

Police have a full DNA profile of the man but have been unable to identify him and have turned to forensic experts for help.
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Professor Caroline Wilkinson made the 2D reconstruction of the man’s face from his skeletal remains (Caroline Wilkinson/PA)
Gloucestershire Police enlisted Professor Caroline Wilkinson, director of Liverpool John Moores University’s Face Lab, to produce a 2D image of his face.

They are now appealing for the public’s help to name the man, who may have lay dead for over a year.

It is thought he was a transient traveller and his death is not being treated as suspicious.

Despite being found close to a busy road there is no evidence to suggest he was involved in a road accident.

Detectives have also sought help from a forensic anthropologist and odontologist who have concluded the deceased was a white man, between 5ft 5in and 5ft 8in tall and who may have been of a large build.

Their reports also suggest he was aged between 28 and 31 but could be as old as 55.
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Will this pair of aviator sunglasses put a name to the face of a man found dead in the Cotswolds? (Gloucestershire Police/PA)
Crime scene coordinator Martin Cuffe said: “We’ve used two forensic laboratories to produce a DNA profile to identify this person.

“The profile has been searched against the national DNA database and the missing persons DNA database with negative results.

“We’ve also worked alongside a forensic anthropologist and a forensic odontologist who specialise in examining bones and teeth.

“The dental examinations suggested he was between 28 and 31 years old but the skeletal examination suggests he was between 28 and 55.

“It is worth noting that his teeth were in a good condition and had been subject to dental treatment.

“Due to the snowfall in early 2018 we are unable to say how long the body had been undiscovered but we estimate anything from six to 18 months.”

When the man’s remains were found close to the A419 Stroud Road on May 1 last year, he was wearing a black or dark grey Peter Storm raincoat, a grey or blue short sleeved shirt with hand stitched repairs on the rear shoulder seam, a black Blue Harbour gilet and blue trousers with a dark leather belt.
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A Karrimor rucksack covered with a white plastic bag was recovered from the scene (Gloucestershire Police/PA).
A pair of dark trainers with a white sole and a beige baseball cap were also found next to the body.

The man also has a Karrimor rucksack, which had a white plastic bag covering it in an attempt at waterproofing, and inside were aviator sunglasses, plastic bottles and toothbrushes.

A small Sony wireless FM radio and a wind-up torch were found nearby.

No personal items, such as a mobile phone or wallet have been recovered, and detectives believe the man was “isolated and of a transient character”.

Police have also not found a sleeping bag or tent.
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Police are hoping a wind-up torch and Sony FM wireless radio may help someone identify the man (Gloucestershire Police/PA).
Detective Sergeant Richard Smith, who is working on the investigation, said: “Despite working closely with other agencies, the coroner, the NHS, the Department for Work and Pensions and the National Crime Agency, we have been unable to identify this person.

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Police release image of 'face' of man whose skeleton was found in woods

Can you identify man found dead on road between Stroud and Cirencester?
 
Face of mystery skeleton reconstructed

"Det Ch Insp Richard Ocone said the body was "pretty decomposed, and was in effect a skeleton" when it was found.

He said the man was probably in his early 30s - although could have been as old as 55 - between 5ft 5in (1.67m) and 5 ft 8 in (1.77m) tall, and likely to have been a white British national."
"The body was clothed in a black or dark grey Peter Storm raincoat, a grey/blue short-sleeved shirt, a black gilet and blue trousers with a dark leather belt.

Dark trainers with a white sole and a beige baseball cap were found nearby.

DNA provided no match with the national DNA database or the missing persons database, so the facial reconstruction was created by experts at Liverpool John Moores University.''
 
Not sure if this has been created elsewhere but just saw this.

https://www.gloucestershire.police.uk/operations/operation-octave/

Police want help to identify remains. That link isn’t great - can someone help me paste the actual police page here?
https://www.gloucestershire.police....entify-body-found-near-cirencester-last-year/
10 April 2019
"Gloucestershire Constabulary is appealing for information following the discovery of human remains near the Bathurst Estate in Cirencester last year.

A forestry worker discovered the remains of a man close to the A419 Stroud Road on the afternoon of Tuesday 1 May and we are appealing for information that may help us to identify the individual.

Officers have completed their initial investigations but have been unable to identify the man despite all of the necessary forensic and DNA examinations taking place.

It’s believed that the remains had lain undiscovered for at least twelve months and this is why we are now asking for the public’s help.

Following reports from both a forensic Anthropologist and Odontologist, we believe that the deceased was a white man between five foot five and five foot eight inches tall who may have been of a large build.

These reports also suggest that the man was around 28-31 years old however it is hard to know for definite so he could have been anywhere between the ages of 28 and 55.

We have recently used the services of an expert in facial reconstruction to create an image of what it is believed the man looked like and we hope that this will also help to identify him.

When found the body was clothed in a black/dark grey Peter Storm raincoat, a grey/blue short sleeved shirt (with hand stitched repairs), a black gilet and blue trousers with a dark leather belt.

Dark trainers with a white sole and a beige baseball cap were found next to the body.

A small Sony wireless FM radio, aviator sunglasses, a wind up torch and a Karrimor rucksack (which had a white plastic bag covering it in an attempt to waterproof it) were nearby and these are distinctive items which may help to identify him.

No personal items such as a mobile phone or identification were found and because of this we would say that the man was isolated and of a transient character.

Due to the location where the remains were discovered, it's believed that he may have been travelling between Cirencester and Stroud; this leads us to think that the he may have regularly travelled between different areas of the county.

It was previously thought that the individual may have been a homeless man who is known to the area but this is no longer the case.
We understand that it may be hard to think back this far but if you know of someone who matches the above description that you haven’t seen for some time, or believe that you've previously driven past this man within the county please let us know by calling 101 and quoting Operation Octave."

Information about this man can also be submitted online here or via email at OpOctave@gloucestershire.pnn.police.uk
 
His profile at UK unidentified database
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Case 18-005027

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Date found: 01 May 2018
Gender: male
Age range: 45 - 59
Ethnicity: unknown

Height: 172cm - 175cm
Eye colour:Unknown
Body or remains: remains

Circumstances

Skeletal remains recovered on the southern border of the Bathurst Estate and adjacent to the A419 road.

Clothing
belt - belt - black - unknown - Black/brown leather belt with metal buckle
footwear - trainers - blue - unknown - Dark blue, with white sole
gloves - unknown - black - unknown - Berghaus

headwear - baseball - beige - unknown - Unbranded
headwear - woolly hat - black - Woollen hat, located near to the deceased

jacket - unknown - grey - Dark grey 'Peter Storm' branded raincoat, size large
jacket - unknown - black - unknown - 'Blue Harbour' (M&S) gilet, size medium

shirt/blouse - shirt - multi - unknown - White/grey 'De Baer' short-sleeved shirt, pocket on front, hand-stitched repair on rear seam

trousers - unknown - blue - 'M&S Man' size W36", L29", M&S code 09977365
underwear - unknown - unknown - unknown - 'Pour Homme'

Possessions
'Karrimor' rucksack (top covered with white plastic bag), 4x plastic bottles (empty), 2x plastic toothbrushes, small Sony wireless radio, wind-up torch

Link to his profile - UK Missing Persons Unit
 
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Police getting closer to identifying human remains discovered in Cotswold wood

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Detectives trying to identify human remains found in a Cotswold wood have eliminated over 50 potential people from the inquiry.

The skeletal remains were discovered by a forestry worker two years ago near to the Bathurst Estate in Cirencester, Gloucestershire.
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A subsequent appeal last year led to the public suggesting 73 names, of which 51 have been eliminated from the inquiry.

Gloucestershire Police said inquiries are currently being made into 22 of the suggested names with further DNA analysis being considered.

Detective Inspector Alistair Hammett said: “I would like to thank everyone who submitted information following our appeal last year as this has allowed us to undertake significant follow-up inquiries.

“At this stage, I am not appealing for further information on the man’s identity as a number of lines of inquiry remain, such as speaking to those who are known to the individuals and cross-referencing against missing people and DNA databases.”
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Police believe the man, who may have lain dead for more than a year, was a transient traveller and his death is not being treated as suspicious.

Despite being found close to a busy road, there is no evidence to suggest he was involved in a road accident.

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Cirencester remains: Dead man's identity still a mystery

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An inquest has failed to shed any light on the identity of a man whose body was found in woodland.

Skeletal remains were discovered off the A419 near Cirencester by workmen on 1 May, 2018. Despite a police investigation and DNA checks across Europe, he has not been identified.

In his narrative conclusion, assistant Gloucestershire coroner Roland Wooderson described it as a "most unusual inquest".He admitted he could not answer who the man was, or how, when or where he had died.

"There were no signs of skeletal trauma and the clothing was intact. There was no blood seen on the clothing," he said.

"It is not known how he got there but the nature of the area and the items the man was carrying suggest he was on a journey and had walked to his final resting place."
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An examination by Dr Lucina Hackman found no signs of trauma and DNA taken from a bone found no matches in any British missing persons' databases or with Interpol.

Dr Hackman concluded the man was of Caucasian ancestry and likely to be aged between 33-55.

Cirencester remains: Dead man's identity still a mystery
 
I don’t see how someone who is British, of that age and goes missing would remain unidentified. The UK is not a massive country. I think he could have been from another country.
 
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I don’t see how someone who is British, of that age and goes missing would remain unidentified. The UK is not a massive country. I think he could have been from another country.
Idk, it's not much different to unidentified people in, say, Michigan. Michigan is about the same size but the UK has nearly 67 million people and Michigan has 10 million people in the same amount of space. And we've seen over and over that people can be from the same state, even the same area, and remain unidentified because they weren't reported missing or their missing report wasn't taken seriously or there was a lack of collaboration between forces. The UK has a lot of people, it's not unusual for people to slip through the gaps and like anywhere else it's not unusual for people to have no close friends or family to report them missing.

From this gentleman's clothing, I would agree with reports he could have been homeless or travelling, perhaps a drifter. It's unlikely he was reported missing.

He may have been from another country though, it does seem a lot of UK unidentified people are. I looked into his clothing.

Underwear - Not sure. Pour homme just means 'for men'. Not sure if it's the brand (it is a real brand but it seems to be American, not sold in the UK? I did find what seems to be an old listing for a brand with that name on a UK site though) or if it was sold in a French speaking country and just had 'for men' on the label. It's also not unusual for some clothes sold in the UK to have various European writing on, if for example they were sold in shops like Aldi or Lidl.

Backpack - Karrimor is a British brand, very popular here.

M&S jacket and trousers - M&S is a British brand, I think they do have a few stores in other countries but very British. Notably not cheap, more of a middle class place to buy clothes imo.

Shirt - De Baer is a hard one to track down. Googling comes up with two listings for De Baer shirts on UK ebay but not much else, seems they are (or were?) a UK company that (at least these days?) may have specialised in corporate or work/uniform clothes? One listing for the company mentions making military and civilian uniforms.

Jacket - Peter Storm, another popular UK outdoor clothing brand.

Gloves - Berghaus, same, another popular UK outdoor clothing brand.

The rest of his clothes were unbranded. It seems his clothes were specifically bought for the outdoors/camping etc. The wireless radio and wind up torch gives me a feeling of someone who didn't much like technology and may have been somewhat 'off the grid' for some time. I haven't seen any mention of him having any money or bank cards, so perhaps he had some at his destination or did odd jobs for cash wherever he travelled.
 
Possible. The body type "large" matches, dental age matches. The picture on the poster looks very similar to the recon, even thr crooked nose matches.
The UID also is someone who received constant dental care and has good quality clothing, no layers and survival gear commonly seen in longterm homeless people. Would also match Michaels lifestyle, he was well cared for and well dressed but suffered episodes of mental crisis and went drifting now and then.
Just it is such a well known case, it is hard to imagine noone compared the two.
 
Possible. The body type "large" matches, dental age matches. The picture on the poster looks very similar to the recon, even thr crooked nose matches.
The UID also is someone who received constant dental care and has good quality clothing, no layers and survival gear commonly seen in longterm homeless people. Would also match Michaels lifestyle, he was well cared for and well dressed but suffered episodes of mental crisis and went drifting now and then.
Just it is such a well known case, it is hard to imagine noone compared the two.

Hopefully someone will look into it and compare the two. If anything it may bring some attention back to his case.
 
Hopefully someone will look into it and compare the two. If anything it may bring some attention back to his case.
Seen him mentioned before, it’s not him. I highly doubt it’s anyone currently reported missing in the UK. They take DNA of the missing person or the family when they’ve been missing for a certain period of time so would be able to rule people out easily.
 
Here are the coordinates of where the police cordon was. In the woodland north of the road.

(51.7150760, -2.0232037)


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