GUILTY UK - Kellymary Fauvrelle, 26, pregnant with baby, stabbed to death, London, 29 June 2019

[CoverMeCagney]

Say whut?! I do not agree that manslaughter is right for Riley's death. This man KNEW he was killing a baby, his own baby.

 

[Legally Bland]

So he was with KmF's relatives at Riley's hospital bedside? Unreal.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Aaron McKenzie, 25, who is Ms Fauvrelle’s former partner and the father of Riley, was charged at the weekend with murder, the baby’s manslaughter and possession of a knife. He appeared at the Old Bailey this morning.

Man accused of murdering pregnant ex 'accepts responsibility'

Hmmm, interestingly The Standard seems to be the only paper reporting that AMcK is Riley's father. I can't find another source, all the others refer to Riley as "her baby", no mention of him.

 

[Alyce]

Hmmm, interestingly The Standard seems to be the only paper reporting that AMcK is Riley's father. I can't find another source, all the others refer to Riley as "her baby", no mention of him.

I can’t link at the moment, but on twitter someone has asked The Standard reporter if AMck is the father of Riley and the reporter said it was stated in court that he is

 

[Alyce]

Here's the link

Tristan Kirk‏Verified account @kirkkorner 50m50 minutes ago

It was said in court today that the defendant is the father.

 

[Sarahlou]

Disgusting man. An ex, how predictable.

 

[Amonet]

Here's the link

Tristan Kirk‏Verified account @kirkkorner 50m50 minutes ago

It was said in court today that the defendant is the father.

I thought it was premature when the papers were printing headlines about this being a random attack.

What must this 'man' have been thinking as he watched his baby die in hospital and pretended to Kelly's family that he was as innocent and heartbroken as them?

 

[Elainera]

I hope he wasn't left alone with the baby ....

 

[Kasmeer]

Ugh, an ex is no surprise, but I'd hoped it was an ex from longer ago and not the father who'd been with the baby in hospital; I'd thought he'd been effectively eliminated. Poor family

 

[JosieJo]

How awful .. killing your ex knowing full well your baby will also likely die
I hope he takes full responsibility for both deaths .. no one would not know that by killing the mother the baby would die or come to serious harm
The timescale he was at the house surely shows premeditation

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

Any news on the 29yr old, originally arrested and released on Bail?

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I'm still not convinced he is Riley's father, it's still only The Standard and us saying that (on a google search)

Either:
The Standard somehow know he is but the others don't
The Standard has misunderstood and misreported
The Standard has printed something that shouldn't have been made public.

Really odd that none of the other papers, even the tabloids, have run with this. Because surely if they could, they certainly would?

 

[Alyce]

Tend to agree Cags, it is very odd...

either it’s true but they were all asked not to report this...or he’s got it wrong..

 

[Tortoise]

I've always found Tristan Kirk to be a reliable journalist imo and he will be well aware of the rules about not violating reporting restrictions. He is the Old Bailey court correspondent, so my guess is he was there.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Tend to agree Cags, it is very odd...

either it’s true but they were all asked not to report this...or he’s got it wrong..

Even Twitter only throws up his one post for "father of Riley" or "Riley's father" when combined with Fauvrelle.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I've always found Tristan Kirk to be a reliable journalist imo and he will be well aware of the rules about not violating reporting restrictions. He is the Old Bailey court correspondent, so my guess is he was there.

But he's literally the only one who has said it. Why would the other news outlets not mention it whatsoever, not even requote it, it's a pretty key part of the story. Very strange.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Any news on the 29yr old, originally arrested and released on Bail?

Wasn't there a 37 year old, too?

 

[Alyce]

Wasn't there a 37 year old, too?

37 yr old has been released from bail no further charge

 

[Alyce]

Any news on the 29yr old, originally arrested and released on Bail?

I think he is bailed until August

 

[Supernovae]

With regards to people questioning the manslaughter charge, the root of it lies in this bit of caselaw:

Attorney General's Reference No 3 of 1994 [1997] UKHL 31; [1998] AC 245; [1997] 3 All ER 936; [1997] 3 WLR 421; [1998] 1 Cr App Rep 91; [1997] Crim LR 829 (24th July, 1997)

Pre-Natal Injury and Homicide following Attorney-General's Reference (No 3 of 1994) on JSTOR

Premature baby's death not murder but manslaughter

Specifically it would be an unlawful and dangerous act manslaughter. The only necessary ingredients would be an unlawful act that creates a foreseeable danger to any person (not necessarily the dead person), resulting in the death of a person "in being" which the baby would be after it is born.