Identified! UK - N.Yorkshire, 'Pennine Woman' AsianFem 376UFUK, 20-40, in water, Sep'04-Lamduan Seekanya

[zwiebel]

I don't think this case has ever been posted here, and it seems very sad that police have worked so hard to identify this poor lady over the years, and haven't had a single lead. Someone, somewhere in the world is wondering what happened to her. Maybe WSers can help? She was found in England, but this case stretches across the globe.

Pennine Woman was found by walkers in a mountain stream beside a pot hole on Sept 20th, 2004. Probably washed down from further upstream. The Pennine Way is a natural area in the Yorkshire Dales in England, very popular with walkers and hikers. She was somewhere between the villages of Pen-y-ghent and Horton.

Pennine Woman had been there 1-3 weeks, so that puts her estimated date of death between August 31st and September 14th, 2004. Cause of death never established.

She was wearing green, Marks and Spencer (UK Store) jeans, UK size 12 (US 10), a white bra and black underwear. A white and turquoise, horizontal striped t-shirt was laying near her body. No shoes, jacket or bag was found.

Accessories: Plain, 22 carat gold band on wedding ring finger. Made in Thailand, ladies' size L

Experts have determined she was of 'Oriental' ethnicity, originating in South East Asia somewhere, possibly China, Korea, Thailand or the Phillippinnes.
Estimated age: 20-40
Weight: 10 stone (140lb)
Height: 4'11" (growth possibly interrupted by measles in childhood)
Hair: Dark brown, shoulder length
Pierced ears but no earrings worn
Probably right-handed
Previous pregnancy
Had contraceptive coil at time of death
Dentals: Available. Noticeable gap between LOWER front teeth
DNA: Available
Fingerprints: Available

Specialist services police have already used include an
Anthropologist
Odontologist
Entomologist
Jewellry expert

http://www.daelnet.co.uk/countrynews/country_news_17052007.cfm

http://www.thepennineway.co.uk/police_help.php

http://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/7759 (scroll, second case down)

http://www.the-investigator.co.uk/viewnews.php?newsId=

Anyone with information should contact North Yorkshire Police;

Tel: 01904 618 691
From Europe: 00 44 1904 618 691
From the US: 011 44 1904 618 691
From Thailand: 001 44 1904 618 691

Email: general.enquiries@northyorkshire.pnn.police.uk

Mail: North Yorkshire Police HQ
Newby Wiske
Northallerton
North Yorkshire
DL7 9HA
UK

 

[zwiebel]

Sorry, forgot the reconstruction pic

 

[zwiebel]

The wedding ring she wore was very old and worn. As it was made in Thailand, I'd say the likelihood is, this UID is from Thailand originally.

 

[zwiebel]

According to this article.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22884783

.....this non-profit is the only organisation in Thailand with a functioning database of missing people. The government run Missing Person Management Center wasn't able to provide any information.

http://www.themirrorfoundation.org/cms/index.php?/The-Mirror-Foundation.html

 

[Gardenlady]

Only place I could find a reliable missing list in a language I can read was on Interpol, which I'm sure they have already checked against, but I went ahead and checked all countries of SE Asia, and even beyond a bit, and didn't come up with any matches.

The Thai missing website was all in Thai, with no translate option - my chrome browser on iPad doesn't have the option to translate, perhaps someone else can?

 

[Gardenlady]

Backtohome.org was the Thai missing website, forgot to include that.

 

[alreetlike]

A pub/restaurant I go to sometimes is run by a Thai family. If I think on next time I'm in I'll show the picture and see if they have any suggestions.

 

[zwiebel]

That's an excellent idea. I was just going to post that we really could do with a Thai connection here. If they just have an idea where we could forward the info, that would be great.

I have the translated website, but it's not very clear if the mirror foundation database has been closed down or not, to me. If I can work out how to contact them, I was thinking it might be worth sending them a link to the appeal, just in case.

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...=/search?q=backtohome.org&client=safari&hl=en


I think we may have some members here who are based in Thailand, but I don't think they're likely to drop in on a Yorkshire case. I should have put 'possibly Thai' in the thread title.

 

[zwiebel]

That translated link's not working for me now. I'll try again.

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...=/search?q=backtohome.org&client=safari&hl=en

 

[skibaboo]

I vaguely remember this being in the news back in 2004 but have never heard or seen of anything since. So sad.

 

[hayaletcatcher]

Her UK Missing Persons Bureau page has a different picture and photos of her clothes, I do not know how to show them within the post.
Hair listed as "Very Long" yet from the sketch's I wouldn't say it was even long?

(This site wasn't running when this thread started so just wanted to bump it with the page)

http://www.missingpersons.police.uk/en/case/04-010400/l6WF44F

 

[dotr]

"Police distributed an artist's impression of the woman in 2005 but said it may no longer accurately reflect what she looked like"
July 13 2018
Facebook appeal over body found in Dales
"Facebook cold case appeal over Yorkshire Dales body"
he woman, aged between 25 and 35, was discovered by walkers in a stream near Pen-y-ghent in September 2004.

She has never been identified but it is believed she came from South East Asia.

North Yorkshire Police has made a new Facebook appeal in Thai, Filipino and English and is asking for the messages to be shared in the UK and abroad

A post-mortem examination could not establish the cause of the woman's death but suggested she died between 31 August and 13 September 2004."
"She was aged between 25 and 35 and was 4ft 11ins (1.5m) tall.

Police believe she had lived in the UK for at least two years before her death, probably in Lancashire, Cumbria or the West Dales.

They said she "could have originally been from countries including the Philippines, Thailand, Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia".

 

[dotr]

Cold case review team turn to social media to identify woman - North Yorkshire Police
"Police are asking people with links to South East Asian countries to help identify a woman whose body was found in the Yorkshire Dales in 2004 - by using Facebook to trace her friends or relatives.

The woman’s body was found by walkers on the popular Pennine Way near Pen-y-ghent in North Yorkshire. Despite extensive international enquiries, she has not yet been identified.

Fourteen years on from her death, officers are urging the South East Asian community to help share a new social media appeal across the north of England and abroad to identify her."
"She had lived in the Lancs, Cumbria, West Dales area for at least two years, and probably longer. She is known to have shopped at Marks and Spencer. She was in size 12 clothing at the time of her death, but may have been slimmer in previous years.

North Yorkshire Police have set up a community group on Facebook, at www.facebook.com/groups/nypccru, and are urging people with links to South East Asia to join and help share the fresh appeal with their friends both in the UK and abroad. The page has messages in English, Filipino, and Thai."
"If you have information that could assist the investigation, please call 01609 643643 (from the UK), or +44 1904 618691, select option 2, and ask for Cold Case Review Team (from outside the UK).

Last modified: July 12, 2018"

 

[dotr]

Cold case review: New appeal to identify woman found in Yorkshire Dales

This map shows the where the woman may have been living for at least two years before her death

 

[Al Ka]

New police appeal to identify ring she was wearing:

Do you recognise the markings on the inside of this gold ring?

The ring is a conventional gold wedding band which was found with the deceased in 2004.

We've already carried out significant enquiries involving the ring, but so far we haven't been able to pin down the markings.

We're trying to identify these markings, which may be manufacturer or hallmarks, so we can establish the age of the ring and where it may have come from. This in turn would help focus our search for the origin of the deceased.

If you have any information about the markings on the ring – or anything else that could assist the investigation – please call 01609 643643 (from the UK) or +44 1904 618691, select option 2, and ask for the Cold Case Review Team (from outside the UK).

North Yorkshire Police

 

[Al Ka]

Updated link to her case on UK UID database

Case 04-010400

Gender -female
Age range -20 - 40
Ethnicity -oriental
Height -149cm - 149cm
Build -medium

Date found -20 September 2004
Estimated death -30 August 2004
Body or remains -body

Circumstances
Body found in stream at Horton-in-Ribblesdale. Believed to have been dead between 1 to 3 weeks.

Hair - brown - very long
Eye colour -brown

Distinguishing features
Peculiarity - gap toothed - Left teeth
Pierced - ears both - L & R ear

Clothing

shirt/blouse - t-shirt - green - striped - green and white striped 'alibi' make
trousers - jeans - green - unknown - 'm and s' make fern green (size 12)
hose - socks - unknown - unknown - light coloured
underwear - bra - white - unknown
underwear - knickers - black - unknown - size 10-12 with silver heart on waistband

Jewellery
ring - 1 - plain 22 carat gold ring finger l/hand, 4mm wide, ladies size l
ring - 1 - ring detailed above appears well worn, very old probably eastern origin

Link - UK Missing Persons Unit

(sorry, not sure yet how to post photos next to each other rather then under each other in this new forum)

 

[Legally Bland]

New police appeal (local tv news confirmed this is a murder case, but this is less clear):
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Pen-y-ghent body mystery: Cold case investigators explore possibility the South East Asian woman was a “Thai bride” based in north Lancashire or south Cumbria

Posted on 30 October 2018 at 19:02pm in News stories

An unidentified South East Asian woman whose body was found near Pen-y-ghent in 2004 may have been a “Thai bride” based in north Lancashire or south Cumbria.

This is a line of enquiry that is currently being examined by the North Yorkshire and Cleveland Police’s Cold Case Review Unit.

The body was discovered by a group of walkers on 20 September 2004 on the Pennine Way between Pen-y-ghent and Horton in Ribblesdale. She was lying in a mountain stream at the entrance to a pot hole near Sell Gill Pot.



There has never been an established cause of death but the circumstances have remained suspicious.

A post mortem examination suggested that she had been dead for between one and three weeks, putting the time of her death between 31 August and 13 September 2004.

An inquest in May 2007 recorded an open verdict.

Adam Harland, manager of the Cold Case Review Unit, explained that tests on the woman’s hair suggest she may have settled in north Lancashire or south Cumbria.

Enquiries linked to her clothing and jewellery also confirmed she had been in the UK for at least two years and may have come to the country as a “Thai bride”.

Mr Harland said: “This term does not necessarily mean the woman comes from Thailand, but that she is a lady who has taken up a relationship with a white gentleman and has come back to live in the UK in the late 1990s or early 2000s.

“That would probably mean that her partner is older than her and quite likely has led a more solitary, individual life prior to their relationship taking place.

“Whoever her partner was in the last days of her life is the person we need to locate and speak to.”

Mr Harland is urging people in north Lancashire and south Cumbria to think back to this time and see if they recall a woman from South East Asia who may have been in relationship with a local man.

“It is probable that others who knew this lady were told that the relationship had ended and that she had ‘gone home’,” said Mr Harland.

“However the hypothesis we prefer is that she had been killed somewhere else, possibly in her own home, before her body was transported and deposited in this remote location. We believe a vehicle was used to take her there, probably a 4×4 due to the difficult terrain.”

The physical details of the woman have been issued previously, along with an artist’s impression which Mr Harland says should be viewed with caution.



Original artist’s impression that should be viewed with caution

He said: “I am more interested in matching the circumstances of the woman’s life rather than matching someone to original artist’s impression. Someone out there must know who she is.”

The woman is described as South East Asian which encompasses China, Korea, Thailand and the Philippines, 4ft 11in tall, aged 20 to 40, about 10 stones, brown eyes, dark-brown shoulder-length hair, both ears pierced, with a distinctive gap between her front lower teeth which would have been noticeable when she smiled.

Anyone with information that could assist the investigation is urged to call North Yorkshire Police on 101, select option 1, and speak to the Force Control Room.

Alternatively, if you wish to remain anonymous, please contact Crimestoppers on 0800 555111.

Please quote “Pen-y-ghent body” when providing details about this investigation.

Last modified: October 30, 2018

Pen-y-ghent body mystery: Cold case investigators explore possibility the South East Asian woman was a “Thai bride” based in north Lancashire or south Cumbria - North Yorkshire Police

 

[iulia]

'Lady of the Hills' remembered at special service in 'Church on the Pennine Way' | Craven Herald

A SPECIAL service at St Oswald’s Church, Horton-in-Ribblesdale at the weekend included readings from the funeral of the ‘lady of the hills’ - the woman found dead near Penyghent 14 years ago and who police now believe may have been a ‘Thai bride’.

 

[Mrs Marple]

This was featured on The One Show this evening on BBC1 England.

So sad to think she might have children who think she abandoned them.

 

[GreyClay]

Pretty good write up on the BBC website:

Who was the 'Thai bride' dumped in the hills?

By Alex Moss
BBC News
9 December 2018

Who was the 'Thai bride' dumped in the hills?