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Or a local business/contractor or work-personso could just belong to whoever lives there surely?
Or a local business/contractor or work-personso could just belong to whoever lives there surely?
this is the thing with sightings of coloured vehicles but not much extra detail via GoogleEarth unless the cars are kerb sideThere is also a red vehicle at St Michael's Airfield - a 3 min drive down Hall Lane.
Hard to tell if it's a van or not though.
Thank you for confirming. I'm not "tech minded". Would this be the same if it had an active data plan? My current watch, I can theoretically leave my phone at home and answer calla etc with my watch.No - fitbit 'listens' for the GPS signals, the fitbit does not communicate with the GPS satellites.
"The gent (who) has looked on the floor and two feet from the bench there’s a phone..." has also not been mentioned in the official timeline AFAIK. Nor is there any mention that I can find of what HE did next. The original witness hurried off to an appointment, but what did this chap do at that point? Did he look around for the phone/dog's owner, or continue on his walk? It's all incredibly confusing IMO.They might have been eliminated from the enquiry as you say, but they've not been added to the timeline. If someone did pass through at say 9:50am, didn't see anything odd, didn't see the dog tied up, didn't see anything odd at all - would they add this to the timeline or ignore it?
On the contrary, if someone did pass through around 9:50am and corroborated the witness statement by the lady who tied the dog up, that would be useful on the timeline, no? "Yes officer, I came through around 9:50am, saw the dog tied up, but thought nothing of it and continued on my way"... would be useful information. Would they include it on the timeline though?
My problem with it is that they are basing their whole time-frame on a single witness statement which doesnt appear to have been corroborated by anyone independent, only the daughter who received the call and the partner who came to the scene later. That's a red flag for me - I'd hope the police are trying to bottom that out, because without independent corroboration - the time-frame is more like 9:10-10:40.
All my opinion of course.
Tatty red van probably considered totally out of keeping with usual Ranger Rover and other 4x4, therefore suspiciousI think the school of thought here is St Michaels on Wyre is not a large place, it's rural.
Two local witnesses found it odd enough to report.
In my opinion the red van is a red herring. I would think that numerous vehicles have been reported as suspicious, it’s just that this one has been put out there by a member of the public and has given the press something different to write about on this story.
So it uses GPS for position but Bluetooth to connect with the phone. It will transmit out via Bluetooth. The problem with Bluetooth is the frequency (2.4ghz) does not travel through water very well, and it has quite a limited distance in the air as it is (circa 30ft from memory.)Thank you for confirming. I'm not "tech minded". Would this be the same if it had an active data plan? My current watch, I can theoretically leave my phone at home and answer calla etc with my watch.
The thinking is probably that if she has floated down towards the sea, they have a very small window to find her before she's lost forever. They are also searching further upstrean, but they need to cover the bay just in case she's already down there.I haven't completely followed this investigation...
I notice they're searching the sea now. But has the entire 20 miles of river been searched? If not why? I know the SGI group/PF searched a one mile stretch but have the police searched the whole stretch from the bench to the sea?
Just seeing the vastness of the water from the videos near Morecambe bay today made me think it is like trying to find a needle on a barn full of hay IF she is in the water at all.
I wonder why Emma didn't say with Paul too. She mentions girls and Willow and happy story. Bit strange to miss Paul out of the happy story. Maybe she just forgot. Being interviewed by reporters is stressful on top of everything else.Interesting wording “Emma White added: 'Bring Nikki home, come to the sofa, with the girls, with Willow and you can have that happy story”
Probably nothing, but made my ears prick up.
The second witness was not localI think the school of thought here is St Michaels on Wyre is not a large place, it's rural.
Two local witnesses found it odd enough to report.
Not wishing to be pedantic here but that is wrong.How an item behaves on water depends on density not weight.
A mannequin would float, just like a log would float. A human body would float too if it were alive, it’s the inhalation of water that makes it sink.
I'm awfully glad I don't own a tatty red van and people were searching my number plates on the internet.
I agreeIn my opinion the red van is a red herring. I would think that numerous vehicles have been reported as suspicious, it’s just that this one has been put out there by a member of the public and has given the press something different to write about on this story.
Apologies these are all just theories around info that the police could have that we don't.BBM
Could you provide a link to that? TIA.
I've followed the threads up to 7 so forgive me if thisbhas been covered but, one thing that occurred to me. I had a Fitbit Surge (years ago) that tracked my route, etc, with GPS. If they have her phone they will have the Fitbit serial number etc. Would Fitbit be able to track its route from known GPS "pings" without it having synced to the phone before battery ran out/became water damaged. My location data was always fairly accurate, even 4+ years ago. I'm not sure if all models now come with GPS or which models comes in pale blue and whether it would have GPS?
You'd like to think if this is something more sinister someone has reported something and the cogs of the machinery are turning. It's hardly news that a vehicle gets reported when there is an appeal for information.In my opinion the red van is a red herring. I would think that numerous vehicles have been reported as suspicious, it’s just that this one has been put out there by a member of the public and has given the press something different to write about on this story.