Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #17

[StillDiggin]

#MISSING | Have you seen Nicola Bulley, who has gone missing from home in Inskip?

Nicola, 45, was last seen at around 9.15am today (Friday, January 27th) on the footpath by the river off Garstang Road in St Michael’s on Wyre.

She is described as white, 5ft 3ins tall, with light brown shoulder-length hair. She speaks with an Essex accent.

She was last seen wearing a long black gilet jacket with a hood, black jeans and olive green ankle wellies. Her hair was tied into a ponytail.

Immediately prior to going missing she was walking her dog, described as a brown-coloured Spaniel. Although the dog has since been found close to where we believe Nicola was last seen, we hope this might help jog the memory of anybody who saw her at around the same time and who may have information about where she was going.
Lancashire Police

Nicola Jane Bulley FB page
Nikki Bulley - Mortgage Adviser - FB page
Nikki Bulley - Strava Runner Profile page


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3 Feb 2023​

 

[Sillybilly]

Please continue discussion here.

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[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

LE has now indicated that NB was deemed high risk "following the information that was provided to the police by her partner Paul and based on a number of specific vulnerabilities that we were made aware of" LE themselves have opened up speculation in regard to personal reasons NB may have disappeared.

Additionally, a reporter has indicated they are aware of what those vulnerabilities are, so we do now know they exist. The fact that LE has specified they exist but is not addressing them further is certainly not going to discourage speculation as to what may have happened. Had they said nothing in that regard, it would be status quo here at WS, but based on their comments, we are opening up discussion of the possibility that NB may have disappeared voluntarily or possibly committed suicide.

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[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

LE has now indicated that NB was deemed high risk "following the information that was provided to the police by her partner Paul and based on a number of specific vulnerabilities that we were made aware of" LE themselves have opened up speculation in regard to personal reasons NB may have disappeared.

Additionally, a reporter has indicated they are aware of what those vulnerabilities are, so we do now know they exist. The fact that LE has specified they exist but is not addressing them further is certainly not going to discourage speculation as to what may have happened. Had they said nothing in that regard, it would be status quo here at WS, but based on their comments, we are opening up discussion of the possibility that NB may have disappeared voluntarily or possibly committed suicide.

Discussion and speculation of what those vulnerabilities may consist of or what they may have resulted in (i.e. voluntarily missing or suicide) is allowed but at all times members must remain respectful and refrain from unnecessary graphic details of what you think may have happened.

Any questions, please use the Report feature to ask and we will try to get back to you as soon as possible.

While I was typing ^^ it seems LE was talking

Just adding after the fact that LE has obviously now released that those vulnerabilities are related specifically to alcohol and menopause.

But you folks already know that.

 

[Sillybilly]

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[Darling136]

Please proceed here for further discussion!

 

[Coachbuilder]

How long does it usually take to identify a body?

 

[Sweeper2000]

Might be the case that whoever first noticed the body was led by their nose. Reasonable to expect at this point. Just walking by on the river path and then it’s carried on the wind. Would be very aware of the ongoing search and situation so went for a proper look.

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

How long does it usually take to identify a body?

Not necessarily very long at all. If the body is NB and she was still wearing her identifiable clothing, they'd have known it was her immediately, for all intents and purposes. Depending on how they identify her it could just be a few hours.

 

[Erutan]

There were photos of the river and it looks wider at some parts of it ?
The divers who were searching would've been experienced with the currents there, I'm assuming.

 

[GeorgeFormby]

@Amonet

Hi, the old thread got closed, and you mentioned about Fitbits and water ingress etc.

My understanding of the older Fitbit design (not had a new one for a few years) is that they are a sealed unit (the actual device, which then sits inside a recess in the rubber strap). Fitbit don't seem to specify an IP (Ingress Protection) rating for their products, but 50m seems to be their statement. My belief would be that any recovered Fitbit will still hold data to the point where battery is too flat, and unless physically damaged, none of the chips or circuits will have come into contact with water.

 

[ShireChe]

Not necessarily very long at all. If the body is NB and she was still wearing her identifiable clothing, they'd have known it was her immediately, for all intents and purposes. Depending on how they identify her it could just be a few hours.

Yes. The likelihood is they already pretty much know/have a decent idea..but they aren't going to say anything until they have done all official checks and informed who they need to. Imagine if they came out and said something and then it later turned out they were wrong

 

[Distant Observer]

Thinking about this, PF probably underestimated the effect that NB's long quilted coat would have when waterlogged in terms of shielding her body from his high frequency sonar device. Sonar works by bouncing sound off hard surfaces. If the coat was floating underwater next to a muddy river bank I would imagine it would act like soft bubble wrap and make it impossible to identify NB's body as a feature of interest.
Thoughts are now with PA and NB's family and friends at this difficult time..

 

[annpats]

Not necessarily very long at all. If the body is NB and she was still wearing her identifiable clothing, they'd have known it was her immediately, for all intents and purposes. Depending on how they identify her it could just be a few hours.

Will they use forensic (i.e dental records) for confirmation?

I'm sure not many family relatives will want to see their loved one after 3 weeks in a river. It's a hard thing to do.

 

[ayrshireguy]

The chap on Sky News said that the body will be relatively well preserved due to the cold water.

 

[Coachbuilder]

Will they use forensic (i.e dental records) for confirmation?

I'm sure not many family relatives will want to see their loved one after 3 weeks in a river. It's a hard thing to do.

Can't the Police tell us the sex of the body that has been found?

 

[Furore]

Yes formal identification has to be done generally by someone who knew her in life which is obviously harrowing especially given the potential condition of a body after some time in the water, so there may be a period of counselling and preparation also.

Furthermore I am not sure in general terms whether there would be an autopsy before or after this, to facilitate then making a body as presentable as possible to any loved ones.

Identification can also be done via things like dental records if no one wants to formally see the body or it is no longer identifiable…

Gutted for her.

 

[mrblack]

Will they use forensic (i.e dental records) for confirmation?

I'm sure not many family relatives will want to see their loved one after 3 weeks in a river. It's a hard thing to do.

DNA most likely. They'll have taken her toothbrush during the initial visit to her home.

 

[JosieJo]

The layers of clothing she was wearing plus boots etc must have hindered her ..so sad

 

[SilentSnow]

Three weeks.
Warmer weather.
Big tide.
Meandering river banked with trees and other vegetation.

Submerged body gets washed up and down a bit by flow, currents and tides.
Clothing gets snagged on a branch, jammed in vegetation or caught in a bend.
Body float to the surface on a warm day after the expected three weeks.
None of this is unusual,

Nathan Cole, a person who recently went missing local to me - police searched thoroughly in the nearby canal but didn't find him. His body was spotted by member of the public in the canal on the Friday just gone, 26 days after he went missing.

This body in the Wyre (presumably Nicola's) has been found around the same length of time after she went missing (23 days).

My thinking is the most realistic explanation in both cases is at this time of year with the water temperatures as they are in the country currently, it's to be expected that three to three and a half weeks is a normal length of time from when a body enters and stays in the water to when it will become buoyant through the decomposition process. And if we were in summer the bodies would have become buoyant from decomposition sooner.