I can't believe there are so many pages discussing it either, when there was evidence yesterday about LL whispering in her nurse colleague's ear "
air embolism" for baby O.
Dan deserves the
Gold Star award for being the only journo, I've seen, to report on it.
Dan O'Donoghue :
Mr Myers is taking the court back through messages between Ms Letby and colleagues sent in late June 2016...
In one message exchange with a nursing colleague, the pair are discussing that there had been an issue with Child O's UVC line. It states in the messages that there was a port left open on the line
Ms Letby said in those messages 'I thought it's a massive infection risk and risk of air embolism, don't know how long it had been like that'
Mr Myers asks if knowing about air embolism was unusual - she says no and that it is 'part of training' and that nurses 'would be expected' to be aware of the dangers of air embolism
I wonder why she didn't mention it to doc choc.
text details from podcast ep.28 -
The Trial of Lucy Letby, Episode 28: Off the ward - The Mail
Jun 25th
Doc: No more doubt - it's not you, it's the babies. I don't know what happened to [Child O] and [Child P], and accept that the pm may not give any useful answers. I do wonder if they may have had adenovirus - it's terrible in neonates / perinates. [Child Q] is different. His behaviour is more bacterial (tachy, temp, reduced uo) I wouldn't be surprised if his bc comes back positive.
Jul 6th
Doc: You need to keep this to yourself. The meeting this afternoon looked at everything with Baby O & Baby P from birth onwards. We reviewed everything. Room / meds / medical reviews and actions. We looked at all documentation med & nur. If you've any doubt about how good you are at your job - stop now. The documentation was perfect, everybody commented about the appropriateness of your request for a review of Baby O following vomit. Your documentation of the resus / incubation / drugs was faultless. There is absolutely nothing for you to worry about. Please don't.
LL: Ok I really appreciate you telling me - it won't go any further. I was one member of a huge team effort, but you know I've been carrying the worry of the 'what if I wasn't enough' - it's reassuring to hear that it doesn't appear that anything could have been done differently, or that I didn't act on or do something I should have. Thank you.
Doc: There was a liver capsule haemorrhage in baby O. It’s not considered by SB and A to be significant. There will be an inquest. We may have to attend.
LL: Would he have died from that?
Doc: I don’t think so. He collapsed. The liver on the first x-ray looked normal and looked abnormal on the second x-ray. But CPR was needed for something. It doesn’t explain why liver changed appearance.
LL: Ok.
Doc: I wouldn’t have wanted anyone else but you to be looking after baby O or baby P. We do work well together.
LL: It's a bit of a worry if it's going that far. Do you think I'll be involved?
And I wonder why Mr Myers didn't bring up her knowledge of the problem with the UVC in her evidence for baby O?
I suppose it could be because her defence doesn't accept the expert's opinions of air embolism for baby O, but it still seems remiss not to talk about what happened with the port being seen open.
Was LL preparing the ground, in a low-key kind of way, for air embolism to come back from the post-mortem I wonder.
JMO
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