UK UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 #2

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[Spiderplant]

Sorry, I'm struggling to keep up with this but someone requested a refresh of this photo

When looking at this image I feel like the dark figure has an arm around a neck and the light jacket person is holding their arm on to it in an upward position on the same side.

almost to look like a couple to passerby but I feel being coerced.

I’ve looked on maps and it could be a possible route straight through the middle of the common with this persons arm/hand on a neck being led- to the south side/

however I’m not sure how this could fit with the unseen poynder cctv footage.
IMO

 

[twinpinesmall]

Hi everyone - as promised, some observations from the walk I did this afternoon between Clapham Junction and Brixton Hill to run an errand. This will be quite a long post so I have done subheadings to make it easier to read/digest, I hope that's ok!

For those new to the thread, I am a longtime local, a woman Sarah's age and build who is comfortable walking around the area in the dark. Today I followed Sarah's generally accepted route - the A205 along the Common from Clapham Junction, onto Cavendish Road, onto Poynders Road. I then branched off in a way that I will explain further down.

The A205 along the Common
No police activity on the road/pavement itself, but there was a large police van parked up by the Windmill, as other have noted. Officers were getting into it, it looked like the dive team packing up for the day. That bit of the Common and around the allotments are full of areas where what looks like building rubbish has been dumped and which will have required, and may still require, careful and length searches.

Cavendish Road/Poynders Road/Agnes Riley Gardens
I found I naturally stuck to the left hand side of the road as I walked along it. Partly my natural direction of travel, partly this feeling like the less sketchy side - the other side has several abandoned buildings, what looks like an empty timber yard etc. This may have been discussed upthread but my feeling is it would have made sense for SE to do the same, unless something made her uncomfortable enough to cross over. From the bottom of Trouville Road onwards it's basically all flats/estates, none of which seemed to have doorbell cams. The somewhat dilapidated 1930s (I think) estates on both sides of the road – Poynders Court and Gardens – were both having their front gardens searched by police with sniffer dogs. I saw no police activity in Agnes Riley Gardens when I passed at about 4.20pm.

Clarence Avenue/Rodenhurst Road
Clarence Avenue is even creepier than I remembered even in daylight – bar the Londis the parade of shops on the corner with Poynders Road is all abandoned and boarded up like something from a horror movie. I am confident walking alone in London after dark but I would only go down there at night if I really, really had to, and even leaving aside why she might have needed to take a diversion that would have popped her out in what seems to be the wrong direction I cannot easily imagine SE walking down here voluntarily. However, there is a turning off Poynders Road before Clarence Avenue onto Rodenhurst Road that would make more sense as a shortcut on foot to the Brixton Hill area (if that is where she was going). The first bit of the road when you turn onto it off Poynders Road is all flats, so no door cams, but a bit further down it is all the sorts of houses that cost £1 million plus, quite a few of which seem to have door cams. The police – plainclothes, interestingly, but with radios – were going door to door here.

I walked all the way up Rodenhurst Road, cut through Crescent Lane onto Lambert Road. Again, no police presence, but quite a few journalists knocking about trying to get quotes from locals! At this point I turned around as the light was starting to go and it was getting cold.

I felt desperately sad on my walk home, the pain that SE's loved ones are going through is unimaginable, and the fear locally is really present. There were so many young women out after work walking in pairs or jogging, as we have been all thoughout the past year, and I heard a number discussing the case. I truly hope that the investigation makes swift progress.

thank you for doing this and for everything you've shared and noticed.

 

[Parmalade]

A note on the new footage from Clapham Common/Northside: this would seem to be entirely the wrong side of the Common for SE to have been out after setting out from where she did, and aiming for Cavendish Road - it's a real zig zag route that would add about half an hour to the journey for no clear reason.

Agreed, I’m ruling it out until at least 10pm but even then can’t really buy it. I think the absence of (material) developments and the investment many of us have put into this very sad case are making us leap on any lead as it sprouts. I can’t speak for everyone, but I was mostly looking for reasons to debunk it rather than support it. Really longing for a happy ending, but I don’t hold out much hope of that.

 

[Sarahlou]

Ops. Sorry. I wasn't aware of it as I was sure I saw some pictures from SM attached before. please can moderator delete as I tried and I can't do it

If the time runs out to edit your post you can always report it and ask the mods to delete it.

Really hoping we get some news about Sarah soon. I can't stop thinking/worrying about this case.

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

In these screenshots, there is a white van hanging around the area in different positions. At 21:10 it's coming this way down the road, at 21:20 (parked or stopped on the side of the road?), then coming this way again at 21:26.

I am sure there are more than one white van in London, but just making a note of it, since it was pulled over (not in a parking space at 21:20).

Is it the same van in all 3 screenshots?

(Screenshot from Plunder's video of all the stills).

Looks like three different vans to me (from left to right) Transit Custom, VW Crafter/Merc Sprinter and Larger Transit.

 

[Parmalade]

Hi everyone - as promised, some observations from the walk I did this afternoon between Clapham Junction and Brixton Hill to run an errand. This will be quite a long post so I have done subheadings to make it easier to read/digest, I hope that's ok!

For those new to the thread, I am a longtime local, a woman Sarah's age and build who is comfortable walking around the area in the dark. Today I followed Sarah's generally accepted route - the A205 along the Common from Clapham Junction, onto Cavendish Road, onto Poynders Road. I then branched off in a way that I will explain further down.

The A205 along the Common
No police activity on the road/pavement itself, but there was a large police van parked up by the Windmill, as other have noted. Officers were getting into it, it looked like the dive team packing up for the day. That bit of the Common and around the allotments are full of areas where what looks like building rubbish has been dumped and which will have required, and may still require, careful and length searches.

Cavendish Road/Poynders Road/Agnes Riley Gardens
I found I naturally stuck to the left hand side of the road as I walked along it. Partly my natural direction of travel, partly this feeling like the less sketchy side - the other side has several abandoned buildings, what looks like an empty timber yard etc. This may have been discussed upthread but my feeling is it would have made sense for SE to do the same, unless something made her uncomfortable enough to cross over. From the bottom of Trouville Road onwards it's basically all flats/estates, none of which seemed to have doorbell cams. The somewhat dilapidated 1930s (I think) estates on both sides of the road – Poynders Court and Gardens – were both having their front gardens searched by police with sniffer dogs. I saw no police activity in Agnes Riley Gardens when I passed at about 4.20pm.

Clarence Avenue/Rodenhurst Road
Clarence Avenue is even creepier than I remembered even in daylight – bar the Londis the parade of shops on the corner with Poynders Road is all abandoned and boarded up like something from a horror movie. I am confident walking alone in London after dark but I would only go down there at night if I really, really had to, and even leaving aside why she might have needed to take a diversion that would have popped her out in what seems to be the wrong direction I cannot easily imagine SE walking down here voluntarily. However, there is a turning off Poynders Road before Clarence Avenue onto Rodenhurst Road that would make more sense as a shortcut on foot to the Brixton Hill area (if that is where she was going). The first bit of the road when you turn onto it off Poynders Road is all flats, so no door cams, but a bit further down it is all the sorts of houses that cost £1 million plus, quite a few of which seem to have door cams. The police – plainclothes, interestingly, but with radios – were going door to door here.

I walked all the way up Rodenhurst Road, cut through Crescent Lane onto Lambert Road. Again, no police presence, but quite a few journalists knocking about trying to get quotes from locals! At this point I turned around as the light was starting to go and it was getting cold.

I felt desperately sad on my walk home, the pain that SE's loved ones are going through is unimaginable, and the fear locally is really present. There were so many young women out after work walking in pairs or jogging, as we have been all thoughout the past year, and I heard a number discussing the case. I truly hope that the investigation makes swift progress.

Really useful insights - thank you. Hope you’re back home safely now!

 

[swedeheart]

YES, I obsessed over this whilst creating a gif video last night of this Camera - and i could not help noticing what looked suspicious (or at least noticeable.)

21:10 and 21:26 are different vans I think. 21:10 One looks like it has police writing on it (Police van, ?)

The one in Endymion Road is pulling out (IMO) but could be sitting there I suppose...

You are right. It is pulling out from a road. I couldn't see that it was indeed sitting on the street, but once I looked forward in the footage, I could see that was a street there.

(I edited my previous post so as to not cause more confusion.)

 

[Firstsnow4]

Hi everyone - as promised, some observations from the walk I did this afternoon between Clapham Junction and Brixton Hill to run an errand. This will be quite a long post so I have done subheadings to make it easier to read/digest, I hope that's ok!

For those new to the thread, I am a longtime local, a woman Sarah's age and build who is comfortable walking around the area in the dark. Today I followed Sarah's generally accepted route - the A205 along the Common from Clapham Junction, onto Cavendish Road, onto Poynders Road. I then branched off in a way that I will explain further down.

The A205 along the Common
No police activity on the road/pavement itself, but there was a large police van parked up by the Windmill, as other have noted. Officers were getting into it, it looked like the dive team packing up for the day. That bit of the Common and around the allotments are full of areas where what looks like building rubbish has been dumped and which will have required, and may still require, careful and length searches.

Cavendish Road/Poynders Road/Agnes Riley Gardens
I found I naturally stuck to the left hand side of the road as I walked along it. Partly my natural direction of travel, partly this feeling like the less sketchy side - the other side has several abandoned buildings, what looks like an empty timber yard etc. This may have been discussed upthread but my feeling is it would have made sense for SE to do the same, unless something made her uncomfortable enough to cross over. From the bottom of Trouville Road onwards it's basically all flats/estates, none of which seemed to have doorbell cams. The somewhat dilapidated 1930s (I think) estates on both sides of the road – Poynders Court and Gardens – were both having their front gardens searched by police with sniffer dogs. I saw no police activity in Agnes Riley Gardens when I passed at about 4.20pm.

Clarence Avenue/Rodenhurst Road
Clarence Avenue is even creepier than I remembered even in daylight – bar the Londis the parade of shops on the corner with Poynders Road is all abandoned and boarded up like something from a horror movie. I am confident walking alone in London after dark but I would only go down there at night if I really, really had to, and even leaving aside why she might have needed to take a diversion that would have popped her out in what seems to be the wrong direction I cannot easily imagine SE walking down here voluntarily. However, there is a turning off Poynders Road before Clarence Avenue onto Rodenhurst Road that would make more sense as a shortcut on foot to the Brixton Hill area (if that is where she was going). The first bit of the road when you turn onto it off Poynders Road is all flats, so no door cams, but a bit further down it is all the sorts of houses that cost £1 million plus, quite a few of which seem to have door cams. The police – plainclothes, interestingly, but with radios – were going door to door here.

I walked all the way up Rodenhurst Road, cut through Crescent Lane onto Lambert Road. Again, no police presence, but quite a few journalists knocking about trying to get quotes from locals! At this point I turned around as the light was starting to go and it was getting cold.

I felt desperately sad on my walk home, the pain that SE's loved ones are going through is unimaginable, and the fear locally is really present. There were so many young women out after work walking in pairs or jogging, as we have been all thoughout the past year, and I heard a number discussing the case. I truly hope that the investigation makes swift progress.

Thankyou for your insight - but please stay safe and don’t put yourself at risk

 

[Herat]

Tries to enhance the photo a bit.
It's in the eye of the beholder but a jogger IMO

I see two people, both look quite slim

The one in the front is turned slighty as if to speak to the one in back.

The one in back looks to have a light-colored mask on, but I don't see a light-colored hat now

Sorry, I'm struggling to keep up with this but someone requested a refresh of this photo

So this is on the opposite side of the street from the one where there were two slim figures, one wearing a mask

This photo shows what is clearly (to me) a female figure with a light-colored jacket. Can't say if there's a cap on the head or not. The shoes look to be light colored, too.

My first thought was that it was a white jacket, because it it soo pale.
I have wondered if her green jacket was somewhat reflective or showed up light colored under the street lighting, rather than dark colored. Some people will chose clothing for it's light-reflective properties for nightime safety.

What I first thought was bright white could very well be reflective.

That's why I wish we had a confirmed nighttime sighting of her in street light to compare the qualities of the jacket

 

[Normal Norm]

At first I couldn’t work out how anybody was seeing two people. But I agree that the legs of the person looked odd.

Now I think I see the explanation. One turned sort of sideways on? I think I can see the additional light coloured footwear.

Image attached to show my thinking.

Great work. I see the pink person as wearing a long silver puffa jacket. I see the blue person as walking away from the camera, and carrying a rucksack which is lighter in colour than their jacket. It is easier to see this in the unadulterated picture. The blue and pink outlines are exactly as I see it. Thank you for adding them.

 

[Moonchild90]

YES, I obsessed over this whilst creating a gif video last night of this Camera - and i could not help noticing what looked suspicious (or at least noticeable.)

21:10 and 21:26 are different vans I think. 21:10 One looks like it has police writing on it (Police van, ?)

The one in Endymion Road is pulling out (IMO) but could be sitting there I suppose...

One day ago, Twitter user posted pictures of the van and the screenshot from the local forum that the girl was followed by the man in the white van (recently), you can see clearly number plates of that van... I believe it was reported already.

 

[sundaaaay]

Hi everyone - as promised, some observations from the walk I did this afternoon between Clapham Junction and Brixton Hill to run an errand. This will be quite a long post so I have done subheadings to make it easier to read/digest, I hope that's ok!

For those new to the thread, I am a longtime local, a woman Sarah's age and build who is comfortable walking around the area in the dark. Today I followed Sarah's generally accepted route - the A205 along the Common from Clapham Junction, onto Cavendish Road, onto Poynders Road. I then branched off in a way that I will explain further down.

The A205 along the Common
No police activity on the road/pavement itself, but there was a large police van parked up by the Windmill, as other have noted. Officers were getting into it, it looked like the dive team packing up for the day. That bit of the Common and around the allotments are full of areas where what looks like building rubbish has been dumped and which will have required, and may still require, careful and length searches.

Cavendish Road/Poynders Road/Agnes Riley Gardens
I found I naturally stuck to the left hand side of the road as I walked along it. Partly my natural direction of travel, partly this feeling like the less sketchy side - the other side has several abandoned buildings, what looks like an empty timber yard etc. This may have been discussed upthread but my feeling is it would have made sense for SE to do the same, unless something made her uncomfortable enough to cross over. From the bottom of Trouville Road onwards it's basically all flats/estates, none of which seemed to have doorbell cams. The somewhat dilapidated 1930s (I think) estates on both sides of the road – Poynders Court and Gardens – were both having their front gardens searched by police with sniffer dogs. I saw no police activity in Agnes Riley Gardens when I passed at about 4.20pm.

Clarence Avenue/Rodenhurst Road
Clarence Avenue is even creepier than I remembered even in daylight – bar the Londis the parade of shops on the corner with Poynders Road is all abandoned and boarded up like something from a horror movie. I am confident walking alone in London after dark but I would only go down there at night if I really, really had to, and even leaving aside why she might have needed to take a diversion that would have popped her out in what seems to be the wrong direction I cannot easily imagine SE walking down here voluntarily. However, there is a turning off Poynders Road before Clarence Avenue onto Rodenhurst Road that would make more sense as a shortcut on foot to the Brixton Hill area (if that is where she was going). The first bit of the road when you turn onto it off Poynders Road is all flats, so no door cams, but a bit further down it is all the sorts of houses that cost £1 million plus, quite a few of which seem to have door cams. The police – plainclothes, interestingly, but with radios – were going door to door here.

I walked all the way up Rodenhurst Road, cut through Crescent Lane onto Lambert Road. Again, no police presence, but quite a few journalists knocking about trying to get quotes from locals! At this point I turned around as the light was starting to go and it was getting cold.

I felt desperately sad on my walk home, the pain that SE's loved ones are going through is unimaginable, and the fear locally is really present. There were so many young women out after work walking in pairs or jogging, as we have been all thoughout the past year, and I heard a number discussing the case. I truly hope that the investigation makes swift progress.

Clarence Avenue certainly seems more isolated, has more green space and remember that her phone last pinged the mast at Clarence Avenue.

 

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[Blanche]

I just find this case "odd" something doesn't sit right with it some how. Not many women go missing in London walking home alone , just searched and only Sarah's name is coming up , just thinking out loud here.

 

[twinpinesmall]

may I ask if posting TFL archive stills from the CCTV cameras are considered an approved source?

 

[Blanche]

In this guardian article today Police 'remain open-minded' as search for missing Sarah Everard continues they say what she was last seen wearing and this "She may also have been wearing green earphones and a white beanie hat." but don't they know from the 9.30pm door cam footage they have? surely that would show if she was wearing a hat or not?

 

[Nikynoo]

Trying to catch up (this thread is moving fast) and I am very impressed with the sleuthing going on here! Just wondering whether anyone has looked for images of Sarah's journey to her friends house (e.g. near the sainsburys where the wine was purchased)(though suspect this may be difficult because we don't know timing). Also, is it likely that Sarah would take the same route there and back? It may be that we should be working from the time she left her home and not from the time she left her friends house.

 

[Blanche]

may I ask if posting TFL archive stills from the CCTV cameras are considered an approved source?

I hope so because they are an important part of the discussion, and they are on an official site ?