Creamcheese
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Yes huge presence and resource, along with temp operation rooms - surely this wouldn’t be for remains from one individual? Or is this standard?
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Other than the bus dashcam footage of the hired vehicle that tied back to him, what evidence do they have? Do they actually have him on camera putting her in that rental car?
Totally agreeI'm sure the evidence is very strong, but however strong, it does tend to undermine the legal process. It just surprises me that no regard was paid to that by the chief of police.
I think another interesting point is that despite the discovery of the remains yesterday, there’s still not been any charges announced against WC.
Could this end up being another case where they have to pin him for something like the indecent exposure to allow them to gather evidence for the murder
Being a PO and the amount of time he’s had between the crime and his arrest you’d expect he’s done a lot of evidence covering.
There were reports that the area is used for fly tipping and dumping cars (I think from a local, I will try to find it now), so that might explain the burnt out car. It may be unlikely but so is a police officer kidnapping and murdering a woman. Chemicals are quicker, quieter and leave less of trace as you are essentially left with a liquid with a few bits of bone. Also his wife has a biochemistry degree and works in a laboratory. Though, of course this is all pure speculation and you're right that burning would be much less hassle. Time will tell I suppose.You’re supposed to check your uniform in but some don’t. Some for example may say they lost their hat and get a new one ordered, and they have kept the hat all along. In any case it’s normally just a locker and who is checking the contents of the lockers on a daily basis.
IMO he would not have parked on the street and caused a blockage where he will be easy to catch on camera. He is more likely to have parked in the estate told her to come with him to sit in the car while he writes her ticket for breaking lockdown etc.
And I think it’s highly unlikely he’s bought lye or similar just because of the evidential trail it will leave. If where he’s gone has burnt out cars, it’s clear to me what he’s done with her body.
Surely they wouldn't have this many different police/temp offices/toilets set up for the investigation of a single body ? This looks major , I think a lot more is going to be coming out
Where can I find this cctv. TIAThe CCTV footage highlighted by @Sherlockhames really is creepy. Lots of movement from the front drivers seat, followed by somebody apparently sticking their head out of the back passenger window.
It’s time stamped 3/3/21 at 22:00
I’ve tried to attach a 5 sec video clip but it doesn’t like the .mov file extension. I’ll attach a still although it’s hard to tell what’s happening until you see movement on the clip. The car is front left as you look at the screen.
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I guess that’s what we’re all here to discuss and speculate.
We won’t know what the evidence is really until trial (if and when). I’m not from or currently living in the UK but I did live there for a bit and happy to be corrected, but I’m of the impression that the evidence gets tested in court so the cards will be kept close to the chest until then.[/QUOTE
You are correct. Once a person is charged ( arraigned) , the whole case is then subject to subjudece laws and will not be reported upon other than dates of hearings etc .
this is my opinion too....she will be savvy enough to know even police uniform is not an indicator of safety! not in that way
I want to say that I don't think it would be that difficult to get Sarah into the car. People seem really confused about that part but she's walking along, potentially with ear buds in so not listening, he runs up and forces her in. Probably 5 seconds, tops. He's stronger than her and it wouldn't even require a weapon or any sort of verbal interaction between the two. I know the Sun claims he used his police credentials but even that only gets you so far with a person, so I think that's probably what happened.
In other words, how he "tricked" her doesn't seem to be that relevant, and it does feel a little bit victim-blamey to me.
In terms of getting SE into a car, his warrant card really can't be underestimated. It can wield a great deal of power, influence and trust when you're a law abiding citizen.
SE's interaction with LE was probably minimal up to this point and positive. She's also been widely described by friends, family and colleagues as a lovely, helpful person. Not naive, just inclined to think well of people with little reason to be suspicious of authority.
Sadly, I can envisage multiple approaches by WC that would have been effective.
Negative approach: LE says you've done something wrong. You worry that you have and defer to them.
Positive approach: LE says they need assistance. You switch into good citizen mode and try to help.
Positive approach: LE offers assistance. You switch into polite mode and accept.
edit: also, it's possible he was in uniform. He isn't supposed to be off duty but well ... that doesn't mean he wasn't. If WC wanted to take advantage of the extra authority it afforded him, he may well have been.
Hi - sorry, new here. I've also watched the footage and find it really sinister - but to anyone with more experience with this site, does anyone know why you can only view the footage at 5 minute intervals? How do we view 10.01pm for instance?
It may just be a complex crime scene. Also some of the infrastructure is to protect privacy of the investigation itself.
I wouldn’t read too much into it yet as they are likely just taking their time as no imminent need to charge him with the timeframes they have. But they will be looking for the maximum evidence they can get to secure a conviction.
Being the obscure nature of where they found the remains he has either confessed, someone else has led them there or they have determined it through technology. In the 90 miles of road and 100,s of square miles of open land between Clapham and Deal something has directed them there. It’s not a routine check.
If he’s confessed, wouldn’t they have charged him by now?
Sorry if it's been said , where is the video clip from ? In relation to Poynders road ?
I honestly can’t believe she’d get in a car voluntarily with a bulky male at night who isn’t in a police car when she hasn’t committed a crime. Neither would she get in a car to do a good deed. We are taught this from being children. This is just my opinion based on being similar to Sarah in age, education, etc.