It sounded like it was prior to this.Errm. He has been arrested for murder. Isn't that extreme violence?
*Where are you getting "potential or capacity for extreme violence and violent behaviour " from? Just curious*
Sorry - I'm unsure how to do the 'proper' quoting.
It might be a bit clearer if I quote the full clause within that sentence, which is, "I have no clue, obviously, but WC apparently had potential or capacity for extreme violence and violent behaviour,"
And I'm basing it on the information that is contained within these threads and the fact that WC has been arrested for murder. I'm not sure that murder can ever not be an act of violence.
I'm not sure where your curiosity arises from - I don't think I suggested anything particularly earth-shattering, but I hope this clears things up.
I can't see what you're looking athttps://livetrains.co.uk/jamCams/archive/00001.03901/vid/1614809150.mp4
If you look at the clip at 22.00 on the 3rd of March something strange is happening inside the left front car
Oh wow.. it looks like someone hanging out the back passenger window and the driver turning around to the back. Could that be WC and SE? IMO
22.00 or 22.05? the link above i see 22.05
The CCTV footage highlighted by @Sherlockhames really is creepy. Lots of movement from the front drivers seat, followed by somebody apparently sticking their head out of the back passenger window.
It’s time stamped 3/3/21 at 22:00
I’ve tried to attach a 5 sec video clip but it doesn’t like the .mov file extension. I’ll attach a still although it’s hard to tell what’s happening until you see movement on the clip. The car is front left as you look at the screen.[/QUOTE
DBM - error in way I added info
But why wouldn't she get in the car if he had police identification or a weapon? If she thought he was a police officer she likely wouldn't have wanted to resist arrest and make the situation worse (even if she hadn't done anything wrong in the first place). And if he had a weapon the assumption that she would definitely have tried to run or fight is not necessarily accurate. I'm around Sarah's age and size. I was held up at gunpoint twice in the past. I have more than 10 years mixed martial arts experience, and yet in both instances I didn't try to fight because my assessment of the situation was that I didn't reasonably stand a chance and may have made the situation worse.
https://livetrains.co.uk/jamCams/archive/00001.03901/vid/1614809150.mp4
If you look at the clip at 22.00 on the 3rd of March something strange is happening inside the left front car
The CCTV footage highlighted by @Sherlockhames really is creepy. Lots of movement from the front drivers seat, followed by somebody apparently sticking their head out of the back passenger window.
It’s time stamped 3/3/21 at 22:00
I’ve tried to attach a 5 sec video clip but it doesn’t like the .mov file extension. I’ll attach a still although it’s hard to tell what’s happening until you see movement on the clip. The car is front left as you look at the screen.
According to the ONS, as of March 2019 in England and Wales, the percentage of women killed by a stranger was 6%. Those are your wrong place wrong time cases.
37% of female murders actually had no suspect identified at all. It is possible they were strangers too, but it cannot be confirmed. If we assume that this entire 37% were strangers then the percentage range for stranger murder is as low as 6% up to a potential maximum of 43% if we credit all unidentified killers as strangers. This means that an average of 27% of female murders are conducted by a stranger.
The stats show that women killed by someone they knew sits in a percentage range of at least 57% and up to a potential maximum of 93% if we credit all unidentified killers as being known to the victim. This means that an average of 73% of female murders are conducted by someone they knew.
So SE was around 3 times more likely to have been murdered by someone she knew, than a stranger. It is of course entirely possible she has been murdered by a stranger, but it is significantly less likely.
22.00 or 22.05? the link above i see 22.05
I'm surprised that people are shocked she may have got into his car willingly. If he was in uniform, that can be both very persuasive and very intimidating. Women are raised to be compliant, nice girls, who listen to authority - especially a man. Lots of women are afraid of the police, even the flash of a card would be enough to make me feel very uneasy.
Not only that, but fear causes us to make decisions we might not have done. And that to me is totally understandable. Who knows what he said or did to intimidate or persuade.
Can you send the 22:00 clip link please (this is 22:05). Thankshttps://livetrains.co.uk/jamCams/archive/00001.03901/vid/1614809150.mp4
If you look at the clip at 22.00 on the 3rd of March something strange is happening inside the left front car