I don't know if it is a lot of folks. I am also in your group. In no way do I think she was meeting someone to go out for waffles and/or steak and eggs. She was a fifth year student in SLC and per family and friends was dating several people casually, was on dating sites and at minimum a SB site. She would have to be more naive than I believe if she had lived there that long and engaged in such things to meet someone in a park in an area nowhere close to such amenities.
I have no problem believing a college student is up or wanting to be out and about at 3 a.m. I have a huge problem believing this was some innocent purported breakfast "date" she bought into. You do not go to a park in NSLC at 3 a.m. in the morning to go to breakfast.
One thing that stands out to me (a few things do) is the one girl who claims to be a best friend said she texted her while she was in CA to see how she was doing or some such and she never received an answer. She went on to explain she was probably one of many who contacted her and KL was likely busy, etc. so never responded (paraphrasing). I never really understood why she even brought this up unless perhaps it was to say when her last contact with her was because she was not missing yet when she was in CA.
Now on that same thought, she did not answer her alleged very good friend's text while in CA but she was in contact with AA while in California. That says something to me... There was also contact the day before she came home and I doubt that was to arrange either breakfast or drugs for that matter. Whether either did drugs to me is not relevant, but I doubt the meeting was for drugs. They apparently knew each other on some level and that is confirmed by the friend the reporter talked with who also said something about KL's and AA's arrangement/relationship.
If she was in deep sorrow over her grandmother, or not, contact with him was apparently still more important than responding to a good girlfriend while in California, whatever the reason for that was. I do not think it was breakfast...
Jmo.
Edited to fix typos.
Really good thoughts I hadn’t thought about. Not replying to the friend is huge!
I hope we learn more today. I don’t have the case experience to draw on that many of you do and will be interested to hear the answers we are all looking for. I acknowledge my thoughts likely come from a perspective that is not used to thinking dark scenarios.
My thoughts:
1. It’s not uncommon at all for college kids to be up at 3 am. Some stay up all night and sleep during day.
2. If we believe the guy in KL’s life from the presser that warned or was worried about AA
it shows she had some familiarity, enough to be talking about him to someone else in her life, that she likely met from a dating app. Whether or not she had met him before in person is the big question for me. But my thought is yes, she had.
3. It isn’t far fetched to me that a meetup at the park was for a smoke, a talk and look at stars, or exibitionist style hookup.
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. I don’t think she’d tell her friends if they were hooking up or dating because I think she compartmentalized and I don’t believe she had super close friends or she’d have been reported missing way earlier.
5. I think she liked to break all stereotypes and “live free”.
Because of this I think a taboo relationship could have been attractive to her.
6. We don’t know much of her relationship with her parents. I can imagine that they knew some of her lifestyle. Her texting her mom to say she arrived at the airport is odd to me. It was 2am. I would not care as much to hear if the plane landed from my daughter, I’d want to know that she made it into her apartment/house from the parking lot or street at 3am—- if at all. Is my 23 yo really going to text me when she gets home every time she goes out and arrives home at 2 or 3 am? I don’t think so. Do I hope someone in her life knows where she is, yes... is that likely to be me? No. Did she have a need to turn off phone to disable locations? Possibly. Did she share an Apple ID with parents?
Was she sharing her location with friends for safety and wanted to not be found and could easier explain a dead phone than location services off?
From there I am torn as to what happened next. I don’t believe his hooks on wall were for tourture but for his bdsm desires. I do believe if there was an accidental death that his fear, desire to stay in USA, exposure and desentization to brutality in killings could lead him to attempt to destroy evidence.
I do know the content of their texts would sway my opinion in this area.