VA - Couple & two teens found murdered, Farmville, 15 Sept 2009 #2

[dangrsmind]

Interesting that bewteen lauging at it and being disgusted with it, no one seemed to notice that the Big Rela *Go Sam On It* track appears to contain some unreleased details about the murder. They're contained in the SickTanick dis rap that starts about halfway through the YouTube remix version. There was a comment to one article that mentioned that "rela" might know something, it was the one that accused SickTanick of being a terrorist. But then again, this description seems to conflict with the official reports so maybe this is bogus. Check it out and decide for yourself.

Did you miss me?

I know some people here love me and some hate me, so in the interest of keeping everyone happy I plan from henceforth to make not more than one posting here per day. So if you are one of the haters it is going to be really really easy to just ignore my one and only post and go one to the next one.

I've been wondering just how many of the Unholy Apostles and members of the SKR crew really know what is hidden in SickTanick's audio grimoires. I am just begining to untangle what this is about, but I have some pretty good ideas...about half of a composition notebook full of them now. I want to share some of the clues as a research aid for other open minded and dedicated researchers of this tragedy that may have some insights to offer. I know some of you are reading.

But before I get into all that...

Some here have previously speculated that Razakel and SickTanick live in their parents basement or somewhere similar; well that's not true. But your dreams for a tour of the glamorous SKR lifestyle have been answered. I present to you Razakel and SickTanick in "Cribs". Their place seems pretty normal for a stoner pad, they remind me of a couple that might own say a comic book business, well except for the picture fo the aborted fetus on the wall.

Seriously: do not watch this video if you do not want to see a close up of this picture.

The tour also includes a visit to SickTanick's grotto where he makes his tracks. Beware, his horrifying lair contains music software.

YouTube - Razakel and Sicktanick "Cribs"

But before we get a little too glib about this family friendly little tour, let's remember that not only do they have pictures of abortions on the wall, one of the victims of the crime took the name "Free Abortions". Why? I may have some ideas on this. Remember that Razakel's web page also features a dead
fetus.

Is it a coincidence that SickTanick works in his "grotto" and that Anton LaVey's Church of Satan uses something called the "grotto system"? Hmm, maybe I am going a bit far here.

And that funny and innocent "this house is haunted" banner? I just should mention that Magus Tsirk Susej author of the Demonic Bible claims to have been born in a haunted house.

Maybe you aren't buying this all quite yet...

Let me tell you a little about my research into the meanings of SickTanick's Doctrines of the Damned. Many of the most important clues for me were contained in SickTanick's blog posting made on June 15, 2009 which is entitled "New Sermon For The Deciples" This posting opens with the line, "Praise from the morning star to the children of light and the highest illumination, for we are growing in numbers!"

The term "morning star" here is a reference to Lucifer.

The posting continues:

"May we surpass the number 5 for that is the number of man!
May we surpass the number 6 for that is the number of the devil!
May we surpass the number 7 for that is the number of God, and
we have surpassed him!"

I focused on analysing tracks 5,6,7 and 9 and 11 to start. Informed and thoughtful students of this case will understand my reasoning here for adding tracks 9 and 11 to my initial inquiry.

A bit further down in the posting is the following reference, "In the name of the sun that shines bright upon us everyday, let every man know, that this is horus, the third aeon, birthed from the mother isis, birthed of the father osiris!"

This is a reference to the Egyptian myth of the birth of the god Horus. Some occultists propose that the story of Jesus is really a retelling of the Horus myth.Additionally, this a reference to Aleister Crowley's declaration of the Aeon of Horus on April 4th, 1904. Serious researchers will investigate this point further.

Please recall that SickTanick refers to his CDs Premanitions and Doctrine of the Damned as "audio grimoires." I asked myself, what is a grimoire and what is its purpose? Well at one level any book of the occult can be considered a grimoire, but in practice we most often might expect a grimoire to specify the procedure of one or more rituals or spells. Doctrine of the Damned does not disappoint.

I direct your attention to track 11:

"on the night of the ritual the water purifies black candles
are lit and im ready for my sacrafice and when i did the steps
on that august night it was only the beggining now i pledge
more than my life, so sanctify me in the waters of the abyss
i give praise to the *advertiser censored* of babylon as a child of darkness
exhaulted be the name of the king of death and with every step
i take i offer up another breath i say the lords prayer
backwards nine times as i drink from the chalice
i renounce jesus christ, upon the parchment is a pact
giving body and soul unto lucifer i give full control

Cause My Flesh Is His Flesh
My Blood Is His Blood
My Life Is His Life
In The Kingdom Of The Old
So Now I Concicrate My Soul For The Prince Of The Abyss
& I Reject The Name Of God & The Holy Spirit"

Do I have your attention yet?

From track 9:

The Sky Falls
The Earth Quakes
The Rivers Turn Blood Red And This Is Our Fate
The Ground Shakes
The Wind Blows
Where You Goin When You Die I Gues Nobody Knows
But Ill Tell You This Much I Will Bow Not Before You
I Have Vowed To Destroy & Implore You
I Will Cast You Down Like You Did Me
Rejoice My Deciples At Beezulbubs Prophecy

This is a reference to the Tribulation and the coming of the beast. The number 9 also has a number of occult meanings including being associated with Satan by LaVey.

SickTanick says he uses gematria and occult meanings of numbers to select the track numbers and numbers of the verses in each track. For example, from the 6/15 posting we recall that 6 is the number of the devil while 7 is the number of God. Track 7, "Deciples Rise", contains 42 lines. It is prophesized that the Beast will rule the earth for 42 weeks. 42= 6 x 7, possibly also representing the conflict between the God and the devil.

Further occult meanings of 7 can be found elucidated in Madam Blavatsky's
appropriately titled essay "The Number Seven" and elsewhere.

Track 5, associated with the number of man, is entitled "Scream".
Here are the lyrics:

"i wake up im ****in covered in blood, i feel as if my bodys burning
and my eyes wont stay shut, i think im dreamin but this feels so
real the last thing that i remember is the 4 step ritual
how can that be my bodies supposed to be dead i gave my soul
to the devil im supposed to have no life left there is a pain
in my stomach and im feelin so sick i open up my mouth
and vomit cause i feel like **** i feel drugged and i cant really
walk, so i go to the door but the door is locked and i fall
to the ground now i hear no sound i think im deaf i cant here
and no ones around i tried to get back up but my legs are
paralized thats when i saw the demon standing right before my eyes
i try to get up again but now i cant feel anything
full paralysis has set in, and i cant even scream

Scream
im lost im in the darkness inside this shell im heartless
i cannot breathe i cannot move i cannot

the demon opened up his left hand for me to see but my vision
is still blurry i dont know what is happening and then i see
whats in the demons hand but i can hardly believe and i can
hardly comprehend what the **** im lookin at i think im seein

my soul and as i start to convulse my body loses control
and so i **** and i piss all over myself im shakin and im throwin up
im thinkin that im in hell but then the demon opens up his mouth
and says to me :

"you did the steps now the father has posession of your body"
what the **** i thought that id be in hell
"but you called upon the master with a story to tell and so that
story is told, while we torment thee, dont bother tryna move
dont bother tryna see, dont bother tryna breathe do bother
tryna be, dont bother with the father cause we'll make you :

Scream
im lost im in the darkness inside this shell im heartless
i cannot breathe i cannot move i cannot"

Which leaves me wondering...Did Sam perform the 4 step ritual?


I promised no more abortions, but it seems important to highlight that Track 11 also contains the following lines:

"so tell me my deciples are you ready for sacrafice
can you take an infants life and still sleep at night no matter
either way cause your damned with the mark of the beast
and you were blind but you now can see and when you pick up
a knife your gunna see reality and when you die there will be much
nashing of the teeth, and nothing left to see, but your very own
mortality, but **** heaven anyway let us pray to the beast"

Some conspiracy theorists believe that both the Kennedy assasination
and 9/11 were Masonic ritual sacrifices involving the number 11. Examine
the connections.

And yes Jay-Z is in on it. See http://justgetthere.us/blog/archives/Jay-Zs-Run-This-Town-and-the-Occult-Connections.html

(to be continued...)

 

[claudicici]

...omg are you serious????..maybe a dead fetus is not that bad of a symbol considering all the teen pregnancies we have ...what exactly is different between anthony lavey and jesus christ both are spreading propaganda?....all I see in this vid iS NORMAL KIDS ...i READ THE WHOLE THREADS ,PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME,WHERE ,OH WHERE IS SKR TAKING KIDS HOSTAGE AND TELLING THEM TO KILL?

 

[Nikolai]

I've read the whole thread..but I don't remember anything about JayZ,and also I couldn't begin to imagine what he would have to do with it....are you saying there is someone within skr who is taking kids hands and showing them how?...because I totally disagree...what "artists" and videos are you talking about?...I have never encountered any violence caused by "artist" and their actions...

Ive pointed out that gangster rap artists probably have the same if not more negative influence than this musics artists. The majority of raps biggest fans are young people, and these artists are reachable because they probably dont have even thousands of die-hard fans. The only difference I see here is the artists of the music had close friend-like relationships and partied with some on their young fans, though I think it was wrong for them to party with 16 year olds, I dont think it had anything to do with the murders. I think they are getting much more blame than they should be.

 

[claudicici]

i agree,thank you

 

[Kano]

Normal?



If you think this normal, thats enough said for me... There is nothing normal about 25-35 year olds datinig 15 year old girls who cant see how not cool they really are.

 

[Nikolai]

http://learfield.typepad.com/deathrow/inmate_tisius.html

That is a summary of the case of a death row inmate in Missouri named Michael Tisius, it is a interesting read for anybody here who loves following crime. He killed two or three prison guards in a ridiculous attempt to break a friend out of a small jail. Rap music took some shots because the murderer was a listener of violent rap and he listened to it before he committed the crime. The summary mentions how.

Though the motive had nothing to do with the music, the murderer did listen to the music to sort of get himself ready to commit the crimes, which was evidence used in court. Maybe McCroskey did this with horrorcore, maybe not. I think that would be something more relevant to attack the artists and music about in relation to the murders themselves rather than what we are talking about now. But the music Tisius listened to was very popular and nearly none of the fans would commit this kind of crime. Its obvious the guy has a major problem regardless of the music. The musicians continued on and had big careers.

 

[Heroine]

http://learfield.typepad.com/deathrow/inmate_tisius.html

That is a summary of the case of a death row inmate in Missouri named Michael Tisius, it is a interesting read for anybody here who loves following crime. He killed two or three prison guards in a ridiculous attempt to break a friend out of a small jail. Rap music took some shots because the murderer was a listener of violent rap and he listened to it before he committed the crime. The summary mentions it.

Though the motive had nothing to do with the music, the murderer did listen to the music to sort of get himself ready to commit the crimes, which was evidence used in court. Maybe McCroskey did this with horrorcore, maybe not. I think that would be something more relevant to attack the artists and music about more in relation to the murders themselves than what we are talking about now.

Why do you guys keep bringing up the music. You guys are the one stuck on us saying it's music that caused this. We are not and have not said anything about the music.

 

[claudicici]

....25 years old dating 15 year old girls has NOTHING at all to do with skr

 

[Heroine]

...omg are you serious????..maybe a dead fetus is not that bad of a symbol considering all the teen pregnancies we have ...what exactly is different between anthony lavey and jesus christ both are spreading propaganda?....all I see in this vid iS NORMAL KIDS ...i READ THE WHOLE THREADS ,PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME,WHERE ,OH WHERE IS SKR TAKING KIDS HOSTAGE AND TELLING THEM TO KILL?

You say you see normal "kids", well look beside these "kids" there are 25-30 year old people with these "kids"......It is not normal for 25 year olds to hang with 15 year olds. To associate with them fine, but to actually smoke wead with them and whatever other crime they choose to commit that day is out of line.
Also, are you serious? A dead fetus to a 15 year old is a bad symbol in more ways that one. Especially when it's insinuating to do it to yourself. You seem to have a problem with reading between lines.

 

[Heroine]

....25 years old dating 15 year old girls has NOTHING at all to do with skr

I'm not speaking of 25 year olds dating 15 year olds. I'm saying SKR are the 25 year olds hanging with the 15 year olds and I don't mean via myspace I mean they hang out with them in private situations and get high with them...and all of the other nonsense they do. Have you STILL not read the other thread. You couldn't have because you seem to still be very confused as to what we are talking about, all of this has been discussed several times.

 

[wadahoot]

on one of the forums that were linked to on this board http://tinyurl.com/yzvuc4g one of the horrorcore artists actually tried to take some responsibility (top post on page 6). Of course, he was slammed for saying so. I'm kinda proud of him myself!

 

[Kano]

....25 years old dating 15 year old girls has NOTHING at all to do with skr

Check there myspace pages, then check there girlfriends myspace pages.. It has everything to do with skr.

 

[Nikolai]

I don't think you read the first thread that really spelled out what skr is all about. They are adults preying on their target audience of children. They encourage children to draw blood and commint criminal acts. They personally get involved in the lives of their fans. When someone says they hold their fans hands, it's not a metaphor k?

I dont think these people are preying on young people, I think the target audience for these artists is anybody who will buy their cd's and merchandise, the majority of rap fans are young. These people are about making a living and money no matter who its off of.

I also dont see anything wrong with any musician having relationships with their fans, the only reason its wrong with Emma and Mel is because theye16 and likely around drinking and marijuana. None of this has anything to do with the murder or with what McCroskey, who I forgot even committed the murders reading here for so long, did.

And if these people encourage these fans to commit criminal acts like murder or rape its in the same way other violent rap genre's do, through their lyrics. And 99% of these fans take the content less seriously than you do. Me and all my friends listened to music about drug dealing, murder, and robbery growing up, and none of us even thought about doing anything like that, and we knew most of the artists didnt either. I think the way the blame for THESE MURDERS is being directed on here has gotten ridiculous.

If any of the artists were named suspects or even persons of interest and evidence came out that they did have some direct involvement with McCroskey commiting the murders than I would understand all of this, but that hasnt happened.

 

[Kano]

I dont think these people are preying on young people, I think the target audience for these artists is anybody who will buy their cd's and merchandise, the majority of rap fans are young. These people are about making a living and money no matter who its off of.

I also dont see anything wrong with any musician having relationships with their fans, the only reason its wrong with Emma and Mel is because theye16 and likely around drinking and marijuana. None of this has anything to do with the murder or with what McCroskey, who I forgot even committed the murders reading here for so long, did.

And if these people encourage these fans to commit criminal acts like murder or rape its in the same way other violent rap genre's do, through their lyrics. And 99% of these fans take the content less seriously than you do. Me and all my friends listened to music about drug dealing, murder, and robbery growing up, and none of us even thought about doing anything like that. I think the way the blame for THESE MURDERS is being directed on here has gotten ridiculous.

The majority of rap fans not young anymore.. Think about it half us 30-40 year olds grew up listening to rap and still do.


:edit to add: again most people not blaminig the music for the murders, more the taking advantage of youth and what not for me... And the claiming to be rappers while making no talent songs of course..

 

[Nikolai]

Why do you guys keep bringing up the music. You guys are the one stuck on us saying it's music that caused this. We are not and have not said anything about the music.

Why do you keep bringing up the artists that had nothing to do with the crime? At this point I think anybody can bring up whatever they want.

 

['Ailina]

Why do you keep bringing up the artists that had nothing to do with the crime? At this point I think anybody can bring up whatever they want.

I personally have recently referenced the artists because I am not closed to possibility they did have something to do with it.

And though I don't blame the music and scene, I do believe it was influential.

 

[Nikolai]

The majority of rap fans not young anymore.. Think about it half us 30-40 year olds grew up listening to rap and still do.


:edit to add: again most people not blaminig the music for the murders, more the taking advantage of youth and what not for me... And the claiming to be rappers while making no talent songs of course..

I doubt its half, but even if so, who cares, whats it matter. I doubt many 30-40 year olds are listening to horrorcore with how stupid the music is, but maybe, I dont think it really matters though, none of this is really relevant.

 

[Kano]

Why do you keep bringing up the artists that had nothing to do with the crime? At this point I think anybody can bring up whatever they want.

A lot of people think the artists should be cracked down on, but that from just researching there myspace pages, you tube videos etc.. You know i have seen enough open drug use and minors around in there personal videos for someone to get warrents. These guys not exactly smart, i dont know why they havent arrested them for kicks already..

Anyway, if you are still asking why, you havent really been looking into the subject or the people at all.

 

[Heroine]

The majority of rap fans not young anymore.. Think about it half us 30-40 year olds grew up listening to rap and still do.

I agree, not to mention, in pixy's interview with raz, that's all she mentions if you pay attention. She mentioned her kid fans several times indicating to me that she knows that her fans are young and if i'm not mistaken she mentions that as well.

oh and btw....i'm 30 and I still listen to some rap, but it def. is not SKR.

 

[Nikolai]

I personally have recently referenced the artists because I am not closed to possibility they did have something to do with it.

Theres always the possibility, but right now it looks unlikely. I think if LE found evidence to consider someone else we would hear about it, but they do have a lot of evidence to looks through.