Verdict Watch 05/04/ and 05/05/2013

[SunnyinMO]

It does not work for me?

try to c & p the link...it is so worth reading..if not let me know and I will PM it to you. It will hold special meaning for you.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Personally I hope she freaks out and starts screaming at the jury or attacking either jw or kn...and gets zapped with the electronic stun belt that is capable of giving her a 50,000 volt shock. Then she really will be shaking like a Chihuahua.

I so cannot wait for this! I think Nurmi will stand as far away from Jodi as he can and not even comfort her afterwards, meanwhile Wilmott will be copping all sorts of weird way too close and intense stares from Jodi. She'll probably have a few daggers for the jury and Juan too.

Great article with interviews from Jurors in Wendy Andriano case:

http://www.nlada.org/DMS/Documents/1106668066.47/0124deathjurors24.html

"She gave us a look like, 'How dare you?' " Percy said. "I thought, 'I made the right decision.' "

 

[Wishbone]

Well - I can't read people's minds and I'm not a psychiatrist - so it's just my observations.

I see a woman who killed her lover - in a very brutal fashion. It wasn't a good relationship - toxic in fact - and they both should have ended it long before 2008. But they didn't.

I see a tragically broken, grieving family looking for closure and justice.

And I see a prosecutor who could have taken the 2nd degree plea, had her sentenced to life, allowed the family to read their impact statements and walked away from it all ages ago.

If that had occured - I think Travis's family would be much farther on the road to healing.

I have 2 sons - can't imagine losing either of them. I would likewise be devastated beyond belief.

Nor can I imagine trying to go through the circus this trial became.

But I won't read my own personal anger onto a complete stranger and call it truth.

Great Post

 

[Callisto]

Well - I can't read people's minds and I'm not a psychiatrist - so it's just my observations.

I see a woman who killed her lover - in a very brutal fashion. It wasn't a good relationship - toxic in fact - and they both should have ended it long before 2008. But they didn't.

I see a tragically broken, grieving family looking for closure and justice.

And I see a prosecutor who could have taken the 2nd degree plea, had her sentenced to life, allowed the family to read their impact statements and walked away from it all ages ago.

If that had occured - I think Travis's family would be much farther on the road to healing.

I have 2 sons - can't imagine losing either of them. I would likewise be devastated beyond belief.

Nor can I imagine trying to go through the circus this trial became.

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I can't speak for anyone, especially not the grieving family of Travis Alexander's but I truly believe if it was my brother that was murdered, in a premeditated, heinous manner that a second degree plea deal would not provide me with an adequate sense of criminal justice. JA didn't murder him in the 2nd degree, and for her to get away with that lesser charge would not ever feel OK to me, and my road to healing would be stifled. Moo.

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[Dana]

Well - I can't read people's minds and I'm not a psychiatrist - so it's just my observations.

I see a woman who killed her lover - in a very brutal fashion. It wasn't a good relationship - toxic in fact - and they both should have ended it long before 2008. But they didn't.

I see a tragically broken, grieving family looking for closure and justice.

And I see a prosecutor who could have taken the 2nd degree plea, had her sentenced to life, allowed the family to read their impact statements and walked away from it all ages ago.

If that had occured - I think Travis's family would be much farther on the road to healing.

I have 2 sons - can't imagine losing either of them. I would likewise be devastated beyond belief.

Nor can I imagine trying to go through the circus this trial became.

But I won't read my own personal anger onto a complete stranger and call it truth.

2nd degree plea - 10-25 yrs, 5 already served and out for good behavior. So how much time would she really serve?

The Alexander family said HELL YES to the death penalty. Jodi claimed she'd drag everybody through the mud if she didn't get what she wanted and the Alexander family and the Prosecutor said 'bring it'. I don't understand why
the family should have settled for less.

What Jodi did was pure blackmail, which she's so used to doing.

 

[Angelina Frost]

Well - I can't read people's minds and I'm not a psychiatrist - so it's just my observations.

I see a woman who killed her lover - in a very brutal fashion. It wasn't a good relationship - toxic in fact - and they both should have ended it long before 2008. But they didn't.

I see a tragically broken, grieving family looking for closure and justice.

And I see a prosecutor who could have taken the 2nd degree plea, had her sentenced to life, allowed the family to read their impact statements and walked away from it all ages ago.

If that had occured - I think Travis's family would be much farther on the road to healing.

I have 2 sons - can't imagine losing either of them. I would likewise be devastated beyond belief.

Nor can I imagine trying to go through the circus this trial became.

But I won't read my own personal anger onto a complete stranger and call it truth.

BBM

She drafted a motion specifically saying she would drag TA through the mud if not granted 2nd degree. The Alexander Family knew this ahead of time and still chose to back JM in his efforts to obtain a murder 1 conviction and a death sentence.

She pursued a despicable defense with gusto, including fabricating the allegations of pedophilia replete with TEN forged letters. This is no case of a relationship gone wrong. Not in the least.

As for the ending of the relationship, she was near 28 when she murdered TA. She made a conscious choice to do so. At any point she could have walked away. Not choosing to do so doesn't make her any less culpable for calculating and carrying out the assassination of an innocent man.

Did he use her? I don't think so, but I see where another might draw that conclusion. Did he say mean things? Sure. Doesn't change one bit about the fact that when she didn't get what she wanted from him, much like her blackmail threat of murder 2 to the State, she reacted with unfathomable violence.

 

[katiedid2]

Ohhhh me too...I so want her to freak out !!!I have waited patiently for them to zapp her with the stun belt and time is running out...

My boyfriend has followed some of this trial here and from his place and cracks me up. He wants her to be made to come to court for sentencing in handcuffs and jail clothes.

 

[Bernina]

I've learned to never underestimate the seducing power of "it." With Travis being aware that JA was evil, a sociopath and a three hole wonder, he still was seduced by that thing. It's really powerful.

Uh, maybe we need a "poll" for the male members of WS...I have my BF and his brother that would enjoy pusher the plunger on JA.....they truly believe there is nothing remotely human about her or even worth salvaging.

 

[Truth Detector]

:floorlaugh: I think they saw more than they wanted of that "thing", know where that "thing" has been the last 17 years, they'll take a pass on that lip sore, and give 'ol Stabby McArias the max. She's been rode hard and put up wet, don't think any male, or female wants to be closer than 50' to her! :drumroll:

Too many hours on that high mileage junk.

Even washed and waxed it looks heavily used.

And that's no 'stretch'.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I can't speak for anyone, especially not the grieving family of Travis Alexander's but I truly believe if it was my brother that was murdered, in a premeditated, heinous manner that a second degree plea deal would not provide me with an adequate sense of criminal justice. JA didn't murder him in the 2nd degree, and for her to get away with that lesser charge would not ever feel OK to me, and my road to healing would be stifled. Moo.

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Plus 2nd degree means she could be released .. if I was the family I would be thinking not only is that not justice, but if she gets out and kills again could I live with myself? They made the right decision by a long shot IMO. Apart from all that it was Murder 1, a jury needed to decide her fate.

 

[Rena_TN]

Well - I can't read people's minds and I'm not a psychiatrist - so it's just my observations.

I see a woman who killed her lover - in a very brutal fashion. It wasn't a good relationship - toxic in fact - and they both should have ended it long before 2008. But they didn't.

I see a tragically broken, grieving family looking for closure and justice.

And I see a prosecutor who could have taken the 2nd degree plea, had her sentenced to life, allowed the family to read their impact statements and walked away from it all ages ago.

If that had occured - I think Travis's family would be much farther on the road to healing.

I have 2 sons - can't imagine losing either of them. I would likewise be devastated beyond belief.

Nor can I imagine trying to go through the circus this trial became.

But I won't read my own personal anger onto a complete stranger and call it truth.

How do you know if Travis family would have wanted that to happen? I think they want to have the highest form of punishment allowed.

The defendant doesn't get to offer deals! The DA offers the deals! It would have been crazy to accept a 2nd degree plea. They have a strong case.

 

[SunnyinMO]

In sharing my analysis of the chart for submission to the jury at 3:30 p.m., Friday I did not intend to portray the jury as a problem. There is indeed a problem in the final outcome but not owing to the jury. The chart shows the jury to be extremely conscientious and even distressed over the seriousness of the task before them. After some initial adjustments in attitudes and sober reflection and discussion, they will take a step by step approach to their verdict. Each Taurus planet the Moon aspects is achieved without undue conflict or rancor, all coming aspects being sextiles. The Moon in mutable )( operates "pretty soon" or "after a while". The complications in the offing involve a group, some using social media, plus opponents of the death penalty and even of harsh sentences. Since their representative, Pluto, is in tight square with Uranus at an angle, this mob of critics is disruptive and their effect is all too public.

thanks Tuba....please explain what the BBM above means.

 

[cubbeegirl]

Here you go:

http://www.***************/show/n_1rk4tj0
After months of a grueling trial, testimony was finally over. It’s time for Juan Martinez to enter the court room to begin his closing remarks. As he walked into the court room, I believe Travis was walking with him. He paused as Juan went to his seat, and looked at his family. They sat diligently through the hours of horrifying attempts to take Travis’s accomplishments away from him and ruin the memory of a man who was trying to make his way through this cruel world. He smiled at them, went one by one and touched their cheeks. “Relax” Travis whispered. “This is almost over.” An eerie calm settled over the Alexander family and friends. Samantha and Tanisha both felt his presence watching over them.
Travis walked over to the Arias family. He smiled and acknowledged them without any hostility. As he made his way through the courtroom, he paused at the defense table. Jodi sat staring forward in her seat motionless, in stark contrast to the evening he agreed to take the Calvin Klein photos in the shower. He posed one last time and when he looked back she was already moving toward him with a knife. He began to get up and fight back, but she just kept striking him. He tried to grab her arms, but instead was hurt by the knife. She backed away and he went to the sink. If he could just get his breath. He looked into the mirror in front of him. He no longer felt pain, but he couldn’t understand why Jodi just kept stabbing him. The look in her eyes was like a shark, so cold, so lifeless. He pushed away from the sink. If he could get away he could get help. He staggered down the hall and fell before he could get into the bedroom. Then everything went dark. When he regained consciousness, he looked down and could see his lifeless body being dragged by Jodi back toward the shower. His throat was cut. As she got near the shower, one of his limbs moved slightly because of a muscle reaction. Jodi pulled a pistol from her waist band and shot his head. Travis looked around and felt warm and safe. There were other people walking, sitting and talking in this beautiful place. Everyone was smiling and loving. He knew his earth life was over, but he had to watch over his precious family.
Jodi took off her glasses. She felt something or someone looking at her. Travis paused and looked at the Jennifer and Kurt. He shook his head. He knew what was coming from them. He walked over and stood in front of Judge Stephens. He was impressed with her fairness. He walked over and looked at the jury. The all looked like good people. He felt their resolve.
Travis went over and sat on the table beside Juan and Flores. While Juan was giving his closing remarks, Travis listened intently. When Juan got loud, Travis went over and put his hand on his shoulder. Juan would then quiet his voice. And when the remarks were over, Travis stood with tears in his eyes because Juan’s heart and soul went into the story he told about him and how he was slaughtered.
The next day the defense began making their closing arguments. Travis watched from where his family was seated. He knew it was going to be emotional. What could he do to lighten up the courtroom? Everyone was so intense! Nurmi was fumbling with papers trying to find an exhibit and he looked so ridiculous. Travis walked over and knocked the stack of papers to the floor. Travis laughed and looked around. He got up and went to the rear of the courtroom where a man was seated. He went into his belongings that were behind the man’s seat and pulled out his cellphone. He got the number and put it back. He then went to the defense table. Kurt’s phone was lying on the table and was turned off. Travis picked it up, turned it on and dialed the man’s cell phone. Heads turned as “Dynamite” filled the court room. Jodi looked back with her hand over her mouth. Jennifer looked around. Everyone in the court room looked on as Nurmi stopped talking and looked at the judge. The judge looked toward the man who was struggling to get the phone to stop ringing. Travis laughed out loud but no one could hear him.
“Come on you guys, now that was funny!” Travis chuckled. “That was at least as funny as making that hired-gun psychologist spill his drinking water over and over!” He went back over and sat on the divider in front of his family.
The day ended in court with Juan rearranging the mess Nurmi made trying to confuse and distract the jury from the realities. When the jury was escorted out by the two bailiffs, Travis waited for him at the table where the projector sat. He watched as Juan picked up and stacked exhibits. How was it that he was so lucky as to have had such a man prosecuting his murderer? He could hear Juan hoping in his thoughts that he had done right by Travis and the Alexander family. The family and the attorneys stayed in the court room for a while after the jury left. Travis went over to his family and whispered to them all:
“No matter what the verdict I want all of you to move on. Thank you for all you have done. I am in a good place and not everyone gets to come here. Jodi will have another day of reckoning and it will make today look like a picnic. I have to go but I will always watch over you. And let Juan know how much you appreciate how hard he tried. And tell him that he may not be six foot two, but he’s one bad-*advertiser censored* prosecutor. That’s just the way he rolls, the way he does crap.”
Juan arranged a stack of papers and thought he heard Travis speaking those words at the rear of the court room. The same words he used when he rolled his snowmobile. He smiled and looked back at the family. They were all looking at him.
Mike

That was beautiful...and I am in tears...thank you !

 

[sammie]

Well - I can't read people's minds and I'm not a psychiatrist - so it's just my observations.

I see a woman who killed her lover - in a very brutal fashion. It wasn't a good relationship - toxic in fact - and they both should have ended it long before 2008. But they didn't.

I see a tragically broken, grieving family looking for closure and justice.

And I see a prosecutor who could have taken the 2nd degree plea, had her sentenced to life, allowed the family to read their impact statements and walked away from it all ages ago.

If that had occured - I think Travis's family would be much farther on the road to healing.

I have 2 sons - can't imagine losing either of them. I would likewise be devastated beyond belief.

Nor can I imagine trying to go through the circus this trial became.

But I won't read my own personal anger onto a complete stranger and call it truth.

She planned a brutal murder and slaughtered him. Toxic relationship or not, that's a heinous crime. The sentence for 2nd degree murder in AZ is nowhere near life in prison, especially for someone her age. The prosecutor, along with
the family, felt she deserved the death penalty, or at the very least, deserved to be locked up for the rest of her life. I applaud him for taking the case to trial.

She's evil and should be punished accordingly.

 

[BeachGirlFromPA]

Well - I can't read people's minds and I'm not a psychiatrist - so it's just my observations.

I see a woman who killed her lover - in a very brutal fashion. It wasn't a good relationship - toxic in fact - and they both should have ended it long before 2008. But they didn't.

I see a tragically broken, grieving family looking for closure and justice.

And I see a prosecutor who could have taken the 2nd degree plea, had her sentenced to life, allowed the family to read their impact statements and walked away from it all ages ago.

If that had occured - I think Travis's family would be much farther on the road to healing.

I have 2 sons - can't imagine losing either of them. I would likewise be devastated beyond belief.

Nor can I imagine trying to go through the circus this trial became.

But I won't read my own personal anger onto a complete stranger and call it truth.

I am reading my own personal anger and calling it truth. My mind, heart and conscience tell me the truth. I am not enamored of the strategy, the deals, the wheeling and dealing. I am enamored of the truth.
JA butchered Travis Alexander. There isn't a reason in the world for that to be okay.
I want her to pay and pay dearly. The truth our society relies on to function and to utilize our justice system is what has been presented in court. God help her if it ALL was entered into evidence. She has been given a lot of passes in the name of her rights. JMO.

 

[LambChop]

Try not to give JA tweets the benefit of your energy. That's what I'm doing. She's pushing the public's-at-large buttons, or trying to. :twocents:
while I :scared: :ignore: :hand:

Well, actually Juan did talk about a number of lies but they were all Jodi's. If she can't tell the truth how would she know the truth when she heard it. She can't disagree with what happened the night Travis was killed because she was in a "fog". But yet she sits there and shakes her head no.

 

[TexMex]

2nd degree plea - 10-25 yrs, 5 already served and out for good behavior. So how much time would she really serve?

The Alexander family said HELL YES to the death penalty. Jodi claimed she'd drag everybody through the mud if she didn't get what she wanted and the Alexander family and the Prosecutor said 'bring it'. I don't understand why
the family should have settled for less.

What Jodi did was pure blackmail, which she's so used to doing.

Beth said in AZ you have to serve 85% of the sentence so that would be a little over 21 years...she's served almost 5...

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I skipped over 14 pages to get here and still see the "men can't resist her "thing" coments. As a male I take this as a personal insult. There are plenty of "things" out there, and not all men think the same way. I would have no problem sending JA and her "thing" to death row thank you very much.

I've also read "it only takes one man" to get set her free etc., by the same token it would only take one woman as well. If you have a personal hatred for men ( ala ALV's home for abused "things") I suggest checking it at the door. /end rant

 

[Zeno49]

One facet of the TA gunshot wound coupled with JA version of the way she shot him while being linebacker tackled was never revisited with medical testimony.

JA demonstrably lied about the TA linebacker tackle based on the gunshot trajectory. The forensic evidence showed the 25 caliber bullet entered at a steep angle from up to down and crossed the right frontal lobe also at a steep angle from front to back. The bullet ended up in the left cheek.

The gunshot trajectory makes sense if JA shot TA while standing over him and with a recumbent TA head turned substantially toward his left side.
OR
If a standing JA had shot TA while he was sitting in the shower stall with his head turned to his left.

Based on JA testimony – namely she held the gun in both hands pointed the gun forward and at the onrushing TA and with TA bent slightly at the waist with his head turned slightly toward his left – the bullet would have entered TA frontal bone but would have traversed most of the length of the brain and exited in the left occipital bone NOT in his cheek.

 

[sammie]

well ok....as I said it was JMO

I understand, it's not anything that was reported in the media, but I've posted the information for my fellow sleuthers a few times.


Justice for Travis!!