VERDICT WATCH - Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Retrial Day 44, Part 2

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Mostly voir dir problems and jury problems as a whole

Carptastic.

Another looney.

 

[Steve44]

Chris did an interview with Gold earlier. Said there is no way Travis and Jodi had any sex prior to those email were exchanged btwn Sky/Travis in Jan 07

Sky saying she knows of three women Travis helped leave abusive relationships and no way he ever hurt Jodi

Does anyone know how to watch the Chris Hughes spreecast from the other night?

 

[SuperTmo]

I'm not even sure you could say that they had declared they were hung, they were as surprised as some of us were when JSS suddenly declared that when they sent in more questions, which JSS had told them to do if they needed to...

Sorry, I was gone a lot today. Is this in reference to the first jury, or is it about the second jury and the modified impasse instructions given yesterday? If it is about this current jury, how do we know they weren't hung and that they were surprised? Just curious.

 

[Wing Ding]

Dalias retrial starts soon. She won an appeal

I just noticed that as I searched for the judge. What a world. I know Mark Goodman's conviction was also overturned, but he was found guilty for a second time. Hope Dalia is, too!

Another one. where The victim was put on trial. Thank God he was still alive to tell his truth to The jury

I know, right? Mike was a hoot on the stand but also a real stand-up guy imo. Calling the defense lawyer a parrott... lol

 

[TexMex]

Does anyone know how to watch the Chris Hughes spreecast from the other night?

http://www.spreecast.com/events/the-gold-patrol-chris-hughes-on-jodi

 

[Steve44]

http://www.spreecast.com/events/the-gold-patrol-chris-hughes-on-jodi

Thank you!

 

[mydirtysecret]

I just noticed that as I searched for the judge. What a world. I know Mark Goodman's conviction was also overturned, but he was found guilty for a second time. Hope Dalia is, too!



I know, right? Mike was a hoot on the stand but also a real stand-up guy imo. Calling the defense lawyer a parrott... lol

Dalia will be convicted again. Unless her dt has been watching this trial then who knows. But she was an escort not a chaste mormon wilting flower. I don't think dalia is nearly the psychopath jodi is on dalias worst day.

 

[SuperTmo]

There is no advantage to them all switching to life. JSS still gets to decide if its life w possible parole or LWOP. If I were on the jury and voted for death, which I would bc the law supports the death sentence in this case, I would rather hang the jury, I would be shocked if jurors who want death felt any differently.

I think its complete garbage that the jury can pick death but can't pick which version of life that they want a defendant to have. I mean, really? That really puts some jurors in a tight spot if they don't feel like a death sentence is the right choice but also feel very strongly that the person should never have the potential to walk free again. Especially with the killer they are dealing with. Maybe some feel the mitigating factors are sufficient enough to save her life (why, I don't know) but also feel she is far too dangerous to have a chance to get paroled in the future. I think that is really a really unfair position for the jurors to be in.

 

[Hatfield]

Thanks Everyone. You were right.

I found a good article that explains it and it says what everyone said. If jury decides to give her life, then JSS still gets to decide LWP or LWOP and she has up to 60 days to have sentencing.

So there is no benefit for the DP jurors to all change their vote to Life. It has the same effect as a hung jury. Below is the article that explains it all really good. Its an older article from 1st phase but the penalty parts still are valid.


"If the jury votes for the death penalty, Arias would be sentenced immediately and she is likely to be sent to death row within hours. If the jury opts for a life sentence, the judge will set a sentencing date within 30 to 60 days and, at that time, will sentence Arias to natural life or life with eligibility for parole after 25 years."

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/02/13/arias-sentencing

ETA: During 1st trial at sentencing, a hung jury resulted in this 2nd attempt at sentencing phase because AZ allows 1 more try. This time, there is no next try if jury hangs. It will go to the judge.

 

[tsitra01]

I agree with what I heard today......we want whatever JA doesn't

 

[Wing Ding]

I know there were 8 or 9 mitigating factors listed in the jury instructions for the jury to consider in their deliberations. (right?)

Was there also a list of x number of aggravating factors for the jury to weigh against the mitigators, or are they to weigh the mitigators against the all the state's evidence in total? (including Juan ripping the defense experts to shreds)

As always, "TIA" in advance.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Court minutes 3/3/15. Not sure what it means or if this was the subject of the jurors questions or one of them? AZL?

http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/032015/m6723569.pdf

 

[concernedmother]

I think its complete garbage that the jury can pick death but can't pick which version of life that they want a defendant to have. I mean, really? That really puts some jurors in a tight spot if they don't feel like a death sentence is the right choice but also feel very strongly that the person should never have the potential to walk free again. Especially with the killer they are dealing with. Maybe some feel the mitigating factors are sufficient enough to save her life (why, I don't know) but also feel she is far too dangerous to have a chance to get paroled in the future. I think that is really a really unfair position for the jurors to be in.

Its almost like if they vote for life their voice doesn't count. There should be 3 choices for them. DP, life, life with parole but it should be jurors decision.

 

[fifteen89]

Dalias retrial starts soon. She won an appeal

Hasn't Dalia been at her Mom's on house arrest while waiting for the re-trial? Very odd outcome after the Judge called the evidence "pure evil".

 

[elementary]

This may be the wrong time and place to post this but someone mentioned that 70% of DP convictions are overturned on appeal. I honestly think LWOP is the more secure option. I don't care if she exploits her environment for all it's worth, it will still suck, and she'll most likely know she's not going anywhere. The DP will give her hope, warranted or not.

To what? LWOP? How is DP then not a win-win situation? And dashing her hopes sounds good to me!

 

[wenwe4]

Spot mark.

X

:-D

 

[TexMex]

I know there were 8 or 9 mitigating factors listed in the jury instructions for the jury to consider in their deliberations. (right?)

Was there also a list of x number of aggravating factors for the jury to weigh against the mitigators, or are they to weigh the mitigators against the all the state's evidence in total? (including Juan ripping the defense experts to shreds)

As always, "TIA" in advance.

The aggravating factor proven was extreme cruelty...here's the agg phase on video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IeyrU0XxVHA

 

[Mollyandme]

I think its complete garbage that the jury can pick death but can't pick which version of life that they want a defendant to have. I mean, really? That really puts some jurors in a tight spot if they don't feel like a death sentence is the right choice but also feel very strongly that the person should never have the potential to walk free again. Especially with the killer they are dealing with. Maybe some feel the mitigating factors are sufficient enough to save her life (why, I don't know) but also feel she is far too dangerous to have a chance to get paroled in the future. I think that is really a really unfair position for the jurors to be in.

I completely agree one million percent!

 

[neesaki]

Bringing this over from the previous thread...



But the people who know the law and the rules of the law aren't the ones who need to ask questions. It's the laypeople on the jury who sometimes need clarification of the law so that they can accurately apply the law to the case they are rendering a verdict on. IMO it's always a positive sign when a jury asks questions. It indicates that they are taking their role seriously and not just haphazardly checking off a box on the verdict form. I fail to see how a jury asking questions to ensure they have a clear understanding of the law can be considered a bad thing.

To be clear, the first jury didn't say "no DP." They hung. There's a big difference. And double jeopardy doesn't attach until a unanimous verdict is reached.

I agree. Did you see the Jeff Gold interview with the juror from the guilt phase trial, she was an alternate so did not deliberate. She's here now in support of Travis and the Alexander's, and stands by the death penalty. She said in the interview that she herself, had asked somewhere around 100 questions. Geez, that's a lot of questions... did I hear that right ? :waitasec: I need to go back and listen to that again, I swear that's what she said though. Really good interview, btw.

Justice for Travis

 

[ZoeyW]

Here is Sky with Jeff, Jen and Cathy http://www.spreecast.com/events/the-gold-patrol-sky-hughes-tells-all

I'm so happy she was able to tell the truth about what happened.

Nurmi and Jennifer had it all wrong. Everyone knew that, but it was good she had an opportunity to set the record straight in her own words.