swanniee11
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Her home and the location of the body was approx 2 min away and .07miles. WTH, Why?
RM seemed fine during her 11:30 pm phone call. She was not answering her phone by the next morning. So, presuming the incident occurred sometime in the middle of the night, RM may have been awakened by the perpetrator(s).Why attack her to begin with? If he/she were going to take stuff then also take her out, could be a handful. Are we talking more than 1 person? Who's carrying what? I can't imagine carrying out a TV or something. This is so upsetting. IMO
My hunch is that the body was moved because the perp didn't want to admit to him/herself (or face the public scorn) how an awful, horrible act it was to kill a little old lady at home alone. A hardened criminal wouldn't care or want to put the time and physical effort into moving a body - why bother moving the body when it was obvious to LE when they entered the house that something suspicious happened? It was an effort to hide the heinousness of the crime more than it was to hide crime itself.RM seemed fine during her 11:30 pm phone call. She was not answering her phone by the next morning. So, presuming the incident occurred sometime in the middle of the night, RM may have been awakened by the perpetrator(s).
I have not seen it confirmed that anything was taken from the home. Was this some sick sexual pervert? (Although there are some sexual predators who prey on the elderly, it would be very unusual for them to take the victim from the home.) Or, there was never any intention to injure or take RM from her home, but she confronted the person breaking in and ran from the house or she recognized the individual so she was taken from the house and killed.
Good thoughts. Something I’m thinking about is whether an “accident” occurred, perhaps someone familiar broke in to take money and expected the home to be empty, and in a panic things escalated and he/she felt they needed to remove her to cover it up. Perhaps she even had a heart attack.My hunch is that the body was moved because the perp didn't want to admit to him/herself (or face the public scorn) how an awful, horrible act it was to kill a little old lady at home alone. A hardened criminal wouldn't care or want to put the time and physical effort into moving a body - why bother moving the body when it was obvious to LE when they entered the house that something suspicious happened? It was an effort to hide the heinousness of the crime more than it was to hide crime itself.
I think the perp is someone who has some shame and/or pride involved, imo. That could be someone Roberta knew, or it could be someone who isn't comfortable being a criminal and can't face what s/he did, or someone who is protecting his/her reputation locally.
Complete speculation on my part, just guessing.
jmopinion at the moment
Good job identifying the location of the emergency vehicles.Something I noted from where the crime scene investigation vehicles were parked on Sunday, per the video in this article: Police find human remains believed to be that of missing Franklin County, VT woman
It seems that she may have been found in the woods right around this area: 44°50'53.3"N 72°44'28.9"W
Notably, it’s very close to a popular campground which also happens to sit on a popular network of ATV trails that are maintained by local clubs. From the looks of it, the neighbor seems to be big into the sport, news videos from his property showed a few ATVs.
It looks like this particular pinpoint on Sand Hill road has access to a few different trails leading into the woods, and is also particularly private. There aren’t any homes within eyesight or ear shot.
Yes, I agree. This particular location may also provide more “reasonable doubt” for a perp. It’s near a popular network of atv trails, so anyone using the trails in the past week could be questioned. It’s near a campground with a revolving door of visitors.Good job identifying the location of the emergency vehicles.
I noticed there is also a significant drop-off on the north side of the road and a body dumped there would be relatively well-hidden for a little while.
Originally when I heard that her body was found close to her house, I pictured it as being a bit closer and had visions of Roberta 'escaping' and running away into the dark. But this theory isn't at all likely based on where her body was found. These seems more like a place where her body was 'dumped' by the killer.
So why hide the body even though it was clear a crime had been committed? I presume it was to hide specific physical evidence that might help identify the perpetrator. e.g. possible DNA evidence, physical evidence of the manner of death, duct tape, etc.
Local here. That location is not "fairly public" -- I'd be surprised if the roads were paved. It's very rural, and AFAIK there's no campground nearby.Seems they wanted it to be immediately obvious that something was wrong. No ransom request, nothing of value taken. She wasn’t taken to a very remote location for more nefarious acts, she was found somewhere fairly public, near trails and a popular campground. Presumably all happened very quickly. Very odd, just seems like some other criminal act went wrong and escalated.
I clicked on some of the pins randomly and they are very old cases, some going back decades. I didn't click every pin, but I'm thinking Roberta's murder isn't part of a large pattern of murders. Am I missing something?For anyone interested here is a map of unsolved homicides in Vermont. Vermont Unsolved HomicidesView attachment 519744
I only clicked on a few too. Perhaps there is a connection to another case, but perhaps not. The unsolved cases are fairly well distributed throughout the state. Of course criminals do not always confine their activities within one state, and NH is right next door.I'm thinking Roberta's murder isn't part of a large pattern of murders. Am I missing something?
I also think Roberta's case will be solved.I only clicked on a few too. Perhaps there is a connection to another case, but perhaps not. The unsolved cases are fairly well distributed throughout the state. Of course criminals do not always confine their activities within one state, and NH is right next door.