Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #37

[Ragnarok]

I forget in which of the many newscasts, etc., but it was mentioned that Douglas County will also have some charges they may add. I would imagine murder and kidnapping would be in Barron's jurisdiction. Has anyone else heard any more about this or have any idea? I would imagine one would be possible SA but I guess what I wonder is if during the investigation, they came across other illegal activities by JTP, whether drugs, theft, etc.

False imprisonment.

 

[gitana1]

That's a good question but I don't know the answer. Maybe @gitana1 can help?
MOO

I believe it would be consolidated. The crimes may have occurred in different venues but they all stem from the same occurrence which began in Barron. So one venue will handle all charges.

 

[PommyMommy]

BBM
Why is this? Because of the need and costs for transportation, officers etc. For his own safety? All of the above?
Plus, why would his atty's prefer he be in person?

I read that his attorney's requested that he appear in person due to the severity of the case. I don't know why the judged denied it but my best guess would be for safety reasons.
MOO

 

[Julia966]

Not in my opinion. She looks like the girl in this photo, but it could be anyone.

Jayme Closs kidnap: Man in custody named as Jake Thomas Patterson | Daily Mail Online

It looks like one of the girls in the photos has glasses, so I also think they are leftover pictures from the sister lived in the house.

 

[PommyMommy]

I believe it would be consolidated. The crimes may have occurred in different venues but they all stem from the same occurrence which began in Barron. So one venue will handle all charges.

Makes sense. Thank you, Gitana1.
MOO

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Imo some of these items would have been confiscated.

Agree, maybe some were and others fingerprinted and swapped for DNA. Does anyone know if they made a 3d scan of the property (can't recall exact name)? That would preserve everything and can be viewed several ways or allow reconstruction of any part or all.

 

[Zephyranth]

Could I get some clarification if you can?

The house deed, it remains in PF father's name, correct? There doc someone posted a few threads ago, I wonder if he payed off his mortgage?

Where might I look to see or find out more on the "diaper box" ?

Thank you

AP originally reported that "the title was transferred," but CBS news published a retraction saying that the father had paid off the mortgage eight days after Jayme's kidnapping:

Documents show mortgage of cabin released following abduction

 

[WiscoDetect]

Considering the above car statements. I don't think LE had any clue or leads initially on this case and clearly they were looking for different cars than thought to be.
2010 Ford Taurus looks nothing like a 2008-2014 Challenger... IMO

Unless some of the other vehicles in the yard are similar.. my guess is a guy like JP used just 1 car all day/everyday. Cars sitting in yards like that in wisconsin are typically in need of work or just to lazy to get rid of.

All IMO

 

[ilovechili]

I wondered too, but it seems to be standard procedure. I'm guessing, as you say, cost and his safety. It's small jurisdiction.

The jail and the courtrooms are in the same building and there are back halls to the courtrooms for prisoners I believe. So transport is not an issue, etc.

 

[justwannahelp]

In regards to the diapers, maybe he just didn't know what size to get and assumed Large would fit Jayme.

IMO

I have had to buy adult diapers for my husband’s 100 year old grandmother a few times. She still lives at home But has a nurse now but several years ago when she stopped driving, the women in the family would run quick errands for her when my mother-in-law and father-in-law were out of town. Anyway, it’s hard to find small ones. Some Stores tend to just carry large

 

[kkdj]

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[kkdj]

The jail and the courtrooms are in the same building and there are back halls to the courtrooms for prisoners I believe. So transport is not an issue, etc.

Oh. I didn't realize that. Thank you.

 

[katydid23]

"Patterson had "specific intentions to take Jayme, but how he became aware of and chose her will be part of the criminal charges."

I am behind, getting online late this morning. But what does this mean? How does this become part of the criminal charges? Stalking?

 

[Mistermagoo]

Considering the above car statements. I don't think LE had any clue or leads initially on this case and clearly they were looking for different cars than thought to be.
2010 Ford Taurus looks nothing like a 2008-2014 Challenger... IMO

Unless some of the other vehicles in the yard are similar.. my guess is a guy like JP used just 1 car all day/everyday. Cars sitting in yards like that in wisconsin are typically in need of work or just to lazy to get rid of.

All IMO

Sheriff Fitz has stated that anything about JP was NOT on their radar. They had no leads what-so-ever that would point to where she ended up.

 

[MsBetsy]

I agree. Jayme is undoubtably still in shock over having reached safety, but will have so many emotions to work through — for a lifetime. At the rate the family is going, I fear she will soon be telling her story to Dr. Phil. This child needs tenderness and security, not photo spreads.

I think she is getting plenty of tenderness and security. We don't know that she is still in shock, although I'm sure she has a long way to go in her recovery.
Maybe sharing with the world that she has survived this ordeal is healing for her. She certainly would not be forced to have a picture taken of her if that's not what she wanted.
Fitzgerald said she was smiling when he saw her on Sunday, and she showed him her bedroom while he was there. Sounds to me like she is doing better than most people would expect.
She is truly a survivor. Imo

 

[erik28]

I had read that JP's dad did visit him in the house while Jayme was hidden and that he had no idea she was there. The investigators believe him. I wonder what JP would have done had his dad discovered her. Kill him?

Could you please provide a source for this information?

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

RSBM

Does the young woman in the photo on the basement wall resemble Jayme? (Far right of far right photo) It’s difficult to see clearly on a small screen.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...spent-88-days-prisoner-21-year-old-loner.html


ETA link

Trying to find the pic you're referring to. Can you give more detail? TIA

 

[kkdj]

I am behind, getting online late this morning. But what does this mean? How does this become part of the criminal charges? Stalking?

I think so.

 

[kkdj]

Could you please provide a source for this information?

I think it's in the media thread.

 

[Andreee]

Earlier, Tricia and I had convo about the SA issue and this was her posted response:



Now, the odd, somewhat innocuous question along the lines of whether or not SA charges have been laid, we're probably going to let slide, but any post that wants to delve into specifics or go on at length about it being probable, how disgusting, extensive personal anecdotes, etc. will likely be removed.

Moderating is not black and white, The Rules cannot possibly cover every situation, and a lot of moderation is based on discretion and judgment, knowing that things could change (i.e. charges are or are not laid in that respect, JC and her family request privacy, etc.)

Clear as mud? If in doubt, send us a private message and we'll try to clarify

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