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The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed
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That too!Plus why take Jayme if that were the case?
That too!Plus why take Jayme if that were the case?
It's not unusual for details to be wrong, so it doesn't surprise me to find out now that Jim was at the party. And now we know that Jayme did have a cellphone.
The other tidbit is that it sounds like someone called 911 but dropped the phone since the sounds they heard were from far away, like from another room. Makes you wonder if Jayme called 911 and someone grabbed her and she dropped the phone.
I think, although the 911 call might have sounded distant and muffled, perhaps... that a word or two might be able to be heard. (if not more) Maybe something the 911 operator heard or even thought he/she heard made him/her pass on information to LE that gave that impression (of possible suicide.) Not seeing anything at first to contradict such information may have lead the first LE arriving to report the same possibility.
You have access to texts remotely if you have a subpoena. But they will know what messaging apps she may have used. Not sure if they can access her Cloud or not. Would give a timeline but I hope she was asleep by 12:30 am on a school night.
If they wanted to know, they would know due to the license plate readers most, if not all casinos have upon entering their parking lot. Then, the hundreds of top line security cameras with perfect image quality one can imagine are used. Speaking of plate readers, most infested areas of crime have them on bridges / stop lights. I would think this sheriff has that technology to work with. However, stop light cameras only do good if working, meaning high failure rate
The easiest and fastest way to see if Closs was at Casino would be to check his win/loss record on his players statement. 95% of regular players have a card.
I'm really sorry I clicked that link to Radar. What a bunch of bull hockey. JMO.
I think, although the 911 call might have sounded distant and muffled, perhaps... that a word or two might be able to be heard. (if not more) Maybe something the 911 operator heard or even thought he/she heard made him/her pass on information to LE that gave that impression (of possible suicide.) Not seeing anything at first to contradict such information may have lead the first LE arriving to report the same possibility.
Just offering my take on this as a previous dispatcher for many years - you HAVE to enter a reason for each call.. you can put “unknown” as a last resort- it’s not the fastest response for dispatch so it’s avoided as much as possible. Often if a call came in with someone just sobbing on the phone I’d categorise the call to possible mental health issue.., or perhaps with the word “die” “kill” mentioned etc and no sound or mention of anyone else, I’d say possible suicide attempt..However- if there is a call history of attempted suicide on the callers number, and a crying call or a non-spoken call presented, I’d classify as a suicide attempt.... So my point is - IMO there was not just sobbing on the phone or a blank call with yelling in the background - UNLESS there was a history of suicidal calls from Denise’s phone. The call takers would often not write all the info in a dispatch log if it was sensitive info, as it gets called over the radio and these days anyone especially media can listen in. The call taker possibly spoke extra information directly to the dispatcher ...
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So many thoughts on this! I can go either way!
If there was a negative encounter prior to the crime, would James keep his gun close afterward?
Did he have gun(s) handy? Did he have ammunition? Did he think a gun was necessary in relation to the situation? Was he familiar or unfamiliar with the person? Was the person he interacted with the same person that came back later?
The perp leaving and returning could give James, Denise, and Jayme the time and opportunity to post about the initial encounter on social media, call police, inform neighbors, prepare for the perp's return (weapons, cameras), or leave the property depending on the length of time between the two events.
Was the truck parked differently because the family tried to leave and had to run back in to the house?
Was it parked differently because he was being followed and ran inside?
Did someone attempt to take the truck and change their mind?
Did somone else drive James home in his own truck?
These are just a few things I thought about for this specific scenario. There is more, but I'd like to read what others have been posting on WS right now.
According to the call log http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/barron+county+call+log.pdf on Page 7 (the section called Radio Log) the log plainly states the call type at the time each unit was dispatched. The first dispatches of units were for a call classified as a 911 Hangup.Just offering my take on this as a previous dispatcher for many years - you HAVE to enter a reason for each call.. you can put “unknown” as a last resort- it’s not the fastest response for dispatch so it’s avoided as much as possible. Often if a call came in with someone just sobbing on the phone I’d categorise the call to possible mental health issue.., or perhaps with the word “die” “kill” mentioned etc and no sound or mention of anyone else, I’d say possible suicide attempt..However- if there is a call history of attempted suicide on the callers number, and a crying call or a non-spoken call presented, I’d classify as a suicide attempt.... So my point is - IMO there was not just sobbing on the phone or a blank call with yelling in the background - UNLESS there was a history of suicidal calls from Denise’s phone. The call takers would often not write all the info in a dispatch log if it was sensitive info, as it gets called over the radio and these days anyone especially media can listen in. The call taker possibly spoke extra information directly to the dispatcher ...
Just offering my take on this as a previous dispatcher for many years - you HAVE to enter a reason for each call.. you can put “unknown” as a last resort- it’s not the fastest response for dispatch so it’s avoided as much as possible. Often if a call came in with someone just sobbing on the phone I’d categorise the call to possible mental health issue.., or perhaps with the word “die” “kill” mentioned etc and no sound or mention of anyone else, I’d say possible suicide attempt..However- if there is a call history of attempted suicide on the callers number, and a crying call or a non-spoken call presented, I’d classify as a suicide attempt.... So my point is - IMO there was not just sobbing on the phone or a blank call with yelling in the background - UNLESS there was a history of suicidal calls from Denise’s phone. The call takers would often not write all the info in a dispatch log if it was sensitive info, as it gets called over the radio and these days anyone especially media can listen in. The call taker possibly spoke extra information directly to the dispatcher ...